[karostay]

Originally Posted by Wi11iam

Hi All,
After reading all the opinions I like the last.
Fortunately or unfortunately I have never played golf and will be doing our design meeting in November / close in February, I hope. and be down next year 4 or 5 times.
Am i going to be expected to do what other golfers who have experience do, or do I get cut some slack.
Seems like it could be pretty intense game. If so maybe I should stick to scuba diving with the aligators and retrieving balls. ..
Really, don't know what to expect???

Grab a club and play. If anyone says anything to you just say
You were me once..You'll be surprised how quiet they become

[jnieman]

Originally Posted by karostay

Grab a club and play. If anyone says anything to you just say
You were me once..You'll be surprised how quiet they become

I am new to golf also. If you take a few lessons when you get here, take the good golf class, you'll be good to go. I felt intimidated at first with other players better than me but found that as long as I don't hold them up they are happy for me when I make a good shot and they make all kinds of nice comments. Of course I watch the other golfers and mimic what they do as far as not talking when they are hitting or walking in the path of the ball and moving along. If you get frustrated on a shot, just drop the ball in the ball drop area or pick it up and move on to the next hole. I really enjoy the game and the new friends I've made.

[mickey100]

Originally Posted by paulandjean

Just relax when you play. Remember the group behind you could be saying the same thing about your ball striking skills.!

Actually, I shot 2 under. But no matter what someone's skills, they have to keep moving along and observe the recommended pace of play which is listed on the scorecard. Our group, and the groups behind us were fuming - the group in front of us played way over the allotted time, and they were holding up the whole course. Since they didn't have sense enough to play the forward tees, the ambassador should have moved them along. And what was really annoying, was that we'd finish up on a green, and go watch them tee off and one of the players was giving another one lessons on the tee. That is so wrong!

[karostay]

Originally Posted by mickey100

I shot 2 under. Our group, and the groups behind us were fuming - the group in front of us played way over the allotted time, and they were holding up the whole course. Since they didn't have sense enough to play the forward tees, the ambassador should have moved them along.

I've never seen an allotted time posted anywhere

[ugotme]

Just an FYI - we play every Tues. & Thurs. 8:08 tee time. We finish almost every round by 11:45. No rushing and we are NOT good. Three of us usually shoot low 90's and one around 100.

Today we had a foursome playing from the #2 tees (5 tees in all). Now, not a big deal but finished at 12:40 pm today. Not complaining mind you but we did have to wait for them on every shot. They really should have been playing the #4 tees - As the USGA and PGA is pushing - "Tee it forward." This makes the game more enjoyable and takes less time.

Did we say anything to them? No, just waited patiently. Personally I would have let the group behind us play through.

OH WELL !

[moongirl]

Originally Posted by karostay

I've never seen an allotted time posted anywhere

The "allotted" cumulative time for each hole and a 9-hole round is shown on the scorecard just above where you write players names. It is shown as "TIME PAR."

[karostay]

and that is ???????

[mickey100]

Thanks Moongirl. For example, Karostay, if you look at a scorecard for Roosevelt, it says the pace of play for the 9 holes is 1 hour and 45 minutes. A championship course may say 2 hours, or 2 hours and 10 minutes, it varies by course and difficulty.

[ronat1]

Originally Posted by Cliff

I've read this entire thread and not one person criticized him/her self because he/she was anxious to start playing on the first tee. Is anyone aware that there should be a seven minute interval between groups teeing off. How many times have you teed off on the first hole anywhere and looked back before you get to the green and found people standing on the tee behind you? This is partly the fault of the course. It does not enforce the 7 minute rule all the time. And, too many golfers are in too much of a hurry to abide by the rule themselves. Think about it. If you are practicing your swing on the tee box and the players in front of you are about to hit their second shot - you are going to have to wait all day long.

First things first. TV executive courses tee times are usually staggered by 9 minutes and the championship course tee times are staggered by 8 minutes, except Palmer which is 9 minutes and I don't recall any 7 minutes tee times in TV. Being that the time par on the championship courses runs anywhere between 12 and 16 minutes per hole, you certainly should expect to see people on the tee box or in the fairway directly behind you when you are on the green. Look at the score card and it will let you know what the time par is for each hole. As far as the executive course, it tells you on the card the recommended pace of play for nine holes. (Example: Bonita Pass is 1 hr & 30 minutes which certainly sounds a lot like an average of 10 minutes a hole to me)

[joannej]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You are right of course, but what you are describing is just waiting for the group ahead of you to tee off, not having a backlog of the group behind you and the group behind them. That is a good indication that someone is holding up the whole course by taking mulligans and searching for lost balls and not picking up their ball after double par and just plain taking too much time. They aren't being nasty, just being completely unaware that there are expectations on the golf course.

No one is expecting anyone to rush, just to be considerate, and if people are new, they don't know what is expected. it is wise to take a course on golf if you are new and then you will know why people are smiling...or frowning.

It is just something that is expected in golf, to keep the pace of play.

[villagerjack]

Gracie, lately your posts are not as upbeat as they used to be....in fact they sound downright negative. Hope nothing is wrong.

[zonerboy]

If a new group tees off every 9 minutes, then it should take 9 minutes to complete each hole and avoid backups. 9 minutes times nine holes is 81, so a round on an executive course should be completed in 1 hour and 21 minutes. In reality most times it seems that if you finish in 1 hour thirty minutes, you're doing well.

[ugotme]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

If a new group tees off every 9 minutes, then it should take 9 minutes to complete each hole and avoid backups. 9 minutes times nine holes is 81, so a round on an executive course should be completed in 1 hour and 21 minutes. In reality most times it seems that if you finish in 1 hour thirty minutes, you're doing well.

While I agree with you in theory, it doesn't work that way. On most courses the tee times are staggered every 8 minutes (could be 9). what you are saying is that on a regular course it should be complete in 144 minutes which is 2 hours and 24 minutes.

Most times I have found the average time per hole is about 13 - 15 minutes. This relates to a round of approximately 4 - 4 1/2 hours.

The 8 minute interval is just to get you started, by that time the group in front of you should have hit their 2nd shot and be out of the way.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Gracie, lately your posts are not as upbeat as they used to be....in fact they sound downright negative. Hope nothing is wrong.

I am sorry villagerjack. I really am so happy that so many new folks are playing golf and many of the people I play golf with regularly are new. I am not ever a rule pusher or do I ever point out things like walking in a putting line or talking during set up, but I try as kindly as I can to keep my group moving to keep up with the group ahead. All of the other stuff will fall into place and I am pretty sure the girls like to play in my group. You don't have to be all rushed, but you do have to be aware of others and keep the pace.

I try to encourage new folks playing golf and I always enjoy playing golf with people far above my level and new beginners too.

And you are right. I am suffering from a dry socket from a tooth extracted.

Sorry to inflict my bad humor on my friends on TOTV. I am embarrassed and sorry.

[maryanna630]

Gracie, we have never even visited the villages but are renting for two weeks in November. We live in Mexico and are considering moving back to the states. I am so sorry you are having dental issues
. I very much like reading your posts and I very much hope you are well quickly. I would love to meet you for coffee some time from 11/1 through 11/14. Heal,quickly.
Maryanna