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G.R.I.T.S. 01-15-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

At least you received a renewal. We were canceled.

JWGifford 01-15-2023 08:57 AM

If you want to feel a little better, we live in Galveston, TX and pay roughly $6500/year for coverage of roughly $350k. Then add property taxes and we’re pushing $17,000 a year before we walk in the door. The Villages is looking pretty good.

Linnberg 01-15-2023 09:01 AM

Usaa
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

We were very fortunate. We have USAA and just got our renewal (including separate sink hole Coverage rider) and it just went up $300!
We did get the new roof in 2021 for just our deductible with a different insurance company.
We discovered that even being in the reserves, my husband was able to use USAA.
I would recommend anyone with military service including reserves, to check out USAA.

OhioBuckeye 01-15-2023 09:39 AM

You’re help paying for other peoples claims. I’ve never had a claim & mine has skyrocketed too. Not trying to be a wise guy but how did you think Ins. Co. stay in business, they raise everybody’s rates. Don’t think about switching, all Ins. Co. rates have gone up!

Captainpd 01-15-2023 09:41 AM

Really
 
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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2175934)
And I thought those that got FREE ROOFS was a good deal - unfortunately it appears we all are paying for them!!

Your insurance went up because of roofs?? How about the replacement cost of your house that went up 30% in one year

Bridget Staunton 01-15-2023 09:44 AM

Michael wait until next year it will more than likely double

Burnie 01-15-2023 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

After having read all the previous posts, I thought you all would be interested in my little story. Have been in this house, a Camelia, since it was built in 2004. Insurance over the years has stayed around the $1200 - $1500 per year range. However, in 2021 it went to $1814, in 2022 the amount was $2186. Received this year's bill and it is ... wait for it ... $6630!!! No "free roof" and no claims since we've been here. Progressive insurance. Had ASI until Progressive took over in 2021. Will be shopping around, of course, after I calm down.

KsJayhawkers 01-15-2023 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

My Progressive homeowners policy (ASI) renewed 12/07/22 and my premium decreased $25. Something else must be going on.

BrianNotFromNYC 01-15-2023 10:22 AM

Roofs, roofs, roofs.
 
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Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175753)
House is in Fernandina, built 2012, vinyl siding, 1488 s.f.


10 year old roof. Until the "state" and law enforcement crack down on "free roofs" claims, you and all of us see higher premiums to pay for them. Anything 11 years old is considered a huge liability to insurers.

BumpaOompa 01-15-2023 10:39 AM

Allstate worse offender
 
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Originally Posted by hollyrich2 (Post 2175947)
Rate increases are not arbitrary. An insurance company must apply for a rate increase with the state and show proof why they must raise rates. The state approved the increase.

I can provide an Allstate quote if you’re interested. We are insuring homes built in 2011 or newer. If interested call 954-437-9220 ext. 308 or email hrichardson4@allstate.com.

I have a 7 yr old house. Never a claim. Allstate raised my homeowners 32% after the first year. They stated rates haven’t been reset for 10 years and it won’t be that aggressive again. The next year they increased the premium 41%. I dropped them. Corrupt.

toeser 01-15-2023 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

Probably more to do with roofing scams than hurricanes. Mine went up 90%.

Love2Swim 01-15-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2175956)
These statements above don't add up. I see no license for insurance companies to steal in here. What am I missing? He opened up competition. Lovin our Govenor DeSantis! OP get a another quote.

Senate Bill 2D, signed by Governor DeSantis today, enacts pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increases insurance claim transparency, and cracks down on frivolous lawsuits which drive up costs for all Floridians. Specific provisions to stabilize the market include:

$2 billion in reinsurance relief through the Reinsurance to Assist Policy (RAP) program to benefit policyholders over the next two years.
Requires insurance companies to file a supplemental rate filing once enrolled in the program to provide relief to policyholders.
$150 million for the My Safe Florida Home Program to provide grants to Florida homeowners for hurricane retrofitting, making homes safer and more resistant to hurricane damage, which can result in premium discounts for those who participate in the program.
Prohibiting insurance companies from denying coverage solely based on the age of a roof if the roof is less than 15 years old or if the roof is determined to have at least 5 years of useful life remaining.
Requiring insurance companies to provide policyholders with a reasonable explanation if they deny or partially deny a claim and provides consumers with greater access to information during the claim adjustment process.
Creating a new standard for application of attorney fee multipliers which have been liberally applied, resulting in increased costs to consumers.
Limiting the assignment of attorney’s fees in property insurance cases, disincentivizing frivolous claims.

You're kidding, right? Nothing has changed. Look at all the people that have had their insurance almost doubled. This was predicted when the law was signed. The bill props up insurance companies solely so they will keep writing policies in Florida. There were no requirements that rates would go down. The lawmakers also set aside another $1 billion in our money as a pool that insurance companies could tap to bolster the industry . The legislation also reduces the risk that insurance companies will be sued by homeowners. These are all measures that benefit the insurance industry, not the Florida residents.

bkgma 01-15-2023 10:51 AM

Loyalty increase
 
Looks like you could be a victim of what I call “loyalty increases”. I was a victim of that with Liberty Mutual a while back - before the “only pay for what you need” promo. Lol - I kept telling them I didn’t need their bells and whistles.

Anyway, you stay with an insurance company, and you have auto renewals, or even if you don’t, you figure inflation or whatever and just renew - and the increases start small and then get larger as the years go by. Finally, you get smacked in the face and when you get quotes from other companies you find you can get the same thing for much less money.

But when you get other quotes, make sure you compare carefully here. Deductibles, both roof and sinkhole can be drastically different. Good luck. It’s a big cat and mouse game. I tawt I saw a puddy cat…

Wendy 01-15-2023 11:01 AM

We also have Progressive and have had it many years
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

We also have Progressive and have had it many years. We have only had one claim back in 2004 for the loss of our boat in a hurricane. Our insurance just went up 70% to $1900. And our home was built in 2012. The problem is not only hurricanes but false claims, hence many insurance companies are moving out of Florida!

pauld315 01-15-2023 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

All the scammers who got free roofs really didn't get them for free. They just spread the cost out to all the other people in The Villages, kind of like socialism. From the tone of your post, I am guessing you don't like paying for other people's roofs.

wpsabo 01-15-2023 12:03 PM

Just asking.....
And why did you get a new roof by only paying the amount of the deductible?
Just asking....
p.s. I have been using USAA for over 50 years. I have asked twice for a new roof, turned down both times.

RickyLee 01-15-2023 12:03 PM

Agreed, Thank You

Robsillup 01-15-2023 12:05 PM

Yep…and in his mind, the “right” to contribute to his campaign fund. hahaha

retiredguy123 01-15-2023 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

My Progressive premium increased by 6 percent to $880. It started at about $550, 6 years ago.

Rainger99 01-15-2023 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt Ed (Post 2175989)
The exact same thing happened to me. 1st year $950, 2nd $1300, Third $1700 and The 4th they wanted 2700. I changed companies and got the exact same coverage for $1200. It pays to shop. Same for car insurance also. No more loyalties.

What was the original insurance company and what company did you switch to?

Karmanng 01-15-2023 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2175746)
After that Special Session, Governor DeSantis signed SB 2-D which enacted pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increased insurance claim transparency, and cracked down on frivolous lawsuits which drive up costs for all Floridians.

In other words it gives the Insurance Companies a license to steal

In other words it didnt do any good to pass a law from them to raise you this much! Sounds like it back fired

GypsyRN 01-15-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2175934)
And I thought those that got FREE ROOFS was a good deal - unfortunately it appears we all are paying for them!!

Such naivete. That's exactly what got us sane clear thinking homeowners in the present snafu!!

Catalina36 01-15-2023 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

Do you have Sink Hole Insurance?
If so it may be time to rethink the sink hole insurance. We did and dropped the SH coverage and saved a lot.

Flyers999 01-15-2023 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2176097)
You're kidding, right? Nothing has changed. Look at all the people that have had their insurance almost doubled. This was predicted when the law was signed. The bill props up insurance companies solely so they will keep writing policies in Florida. There were no requirements that rates would go down. The lawmakers also set aside another $1 billion in our money as a pool that insurance companies could tap to bolster the industry . The legislation also reduces the risk that insurance companies will be sued by homeowners. These are all measures that benefit the insurance industry, not the Florida residents.

Hurricanes Nicole and Ian caused over $50 billion in damages to Florida. Ian was the deadliest storm in Florida in nearly 90 years.

If Florida keeps getting storms like that, $1 billion from the state isn't going to help much.

Burnie 01-15-2023 03:18 PM

2004 Camilia in BonnyBrook owned by us since it was built ... no insurance claims, no "free roof". Had ASI insurance until 2020 when Progressive Insurance took over.

ASI premiums started at $591 (new house) and increased over the years to $1445 in 2020.

Then Progressive took over:
2021 $1814
2022 $2186
2023 $6630 (note that is three times the previous year)

I went ballistic of course and checked with the agency to be sure it wasn't some kind of error or scam, only to be "reassured" that the amount was correct.
Obviously, I'm going to shop around but my blood pressure is still up, especially after reading posts in this string that show most increases to be no more than 10 or 15 percent. The premium is due March 5th.

Badger 2006 01-15-2023 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2175936)
I have the villages ins agency. I have 1150;sq ft vinyl siding with a 3 year old roof and no claims. Mine went from 866 to 966 dollars a year. Have 20 per cent sink hole and 10 per cent hurricane coverage.

If I understand your deductibles, and as a home value guess here at $300,000, your deductible for sink hole damage would be $60,000 and hurricane damage $30,000. Don’t know what your liability coverages are but the super high deductibles are most likely why your premiums are so low.

Badger 2006 01-15-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2176145)
My Progressive premium increased by 6 percent to $880. It started at about $550, 6 years ago.

Meaningless unless coverage details are included.

Badger 2006 01-15-2023 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2176179)
Do you have Sink Hole Insurance?
If so it may be time to rethink the sink hole insurance. We did and dropped the SH coverage and saved a lot.

Until you get a non catastrophic sink hole issue that can be easily be 20 to 50 thousand dollars and more. Many sink hole issues in The Villages. Insurance for me is to protect against the major $$$$ issues. Depends what your risk tolerance is.

Babubhat 01-15-2023 04:08 PM

Higher interest rates help insurance companies. There are companies writing at a fair price but you have to put effort into it. Have multiple homes and no issues. Did not take more than an hour of time.

Work the phone, villages insurance and websites

retiredguy123 01-15-2023 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Badger 2006 (Post 2176200)
Meaningless unless coverage details are included.

$236K dwelling coverage, $500K liability, sinkhole coverage with 10 percent deductible, hurricane deductible is $500. Sewer backup coverage included.

DALEPQ 01-15-2023 09:48 PM

Add'l Info.
 
Thanks for all your replies.
Definitely looking for other coverage quotes.
Thanks again.

Babubhat 01-15-2023 10:22 PM

Frontline, heritage and State Farm offered fair rates two months ago to me

Lynnesail 01-16-2023 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SkylightRoofing (Post 2175889)
As a resident here in The Villages, a FL licensed independent adjuster (Not active in this regard just hold licenses), and a roofer (Yes, there are a handful of quality platinum original roofers that don’t solicit and respect community guidelines), the issue was mentioned above - Fraud claims across the state (FL) gave insurance carriers the power back. Billions in 3rd degree fraud loss claims filed (because neighbors told neighbors) that adjusters and claims coordinators should have never approved …Caught up to all of us. I have three properties here and it’s not easy to absorb. I can say though: I (We) saw this coming like a train coming off the tracks from afar. All the people signing an insurance contract with door knockers should have been better educated.

If there are those out there that need a roof and that are hesitant about who to turn to for free advice without any pressure: Contact Skylight Roofing Villages - Trusted, Quality Reputation, Fully Insured, No Subcontractors, and over 5000 homes replaced to Sumter, Marion, Lake County Code.

352-552-4766 or 407-790/6755

The Villages - Skylight Roofing Inc.

Skylight Roofing - Serving The Villages for over 15 Years

But why did the insurance companies approve these claim’s and then penalize US?

RickyLee 01-16-2023 06:17 AM

please define "Ad Hominem", for those of us that are more educatedly challenged ! 😊😂🤣

rmd2 01-16-2023 06:46 AM

Tower Hill
 
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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2175830)
Wow - just purchased a brand new home - went through the Villages, who signed me up with Tower Hill - $950 for the year.

I have Tower Hill and they raised mine from $900 to $1300. Can you put me in touch with the person who you got the quote from?
Thanks!

msilagy 01-16-2023 07:32 AM

People saying they have had no claims? That does not matter. You are paying for all the other claims that insurance company has absorbed. After Ian this is to be expected in Florida. Imagine the rates those on the gulf and Atlantic will pay.

jcgrether 01-16-2023 08:05 AM

[QUOTE=Lynnesail;2176281]But why did the insurance companies approve these claim’s and then penalize US?[/QUOTE

The insurance companies don’t want to pay fraudulent roof claims. However it costs them more in legal fees to fight, than it does to replace the roof. The attorneys know this and leverage that knowledge to get their fees and the homeowner a new roof. In time, the new law DeSantis signed should help, but it doesn’t change overnight. Rate increases we are now seeing were approved by the state LONG before this new law was passed and has nothing to do with the new law, nor does it give insurance companies the ability to screw with customers. A little common sense knowledge about capital markets would answer many of these complaints.
I don’t like rate increases either. My Progressive policy is slated to increase from $1900 to $2900 in March….but if we were closer to the coast it would be many multiples of that, if we could get it at all.

JGibson 01-16-2023 08:20 AM

They know TV residents have deep pockets. Would like to see a comparison to a area with a lower median income.

GatorFan 01-16-2023 08:53 AM

Give Emery Abshier Allstate Agency a call. Very friendly, hometown agency that works hard for their clients. Tammy is an awesome agent and will take good care of you. 352-245-2423. No obligation but I guarantee you that you will be very pleased with the service you receive.

StoneyZ 01-16-2023 09:01 AM

Homeowners Insurance
 
Yes Minnesota too. My Minnesota home went from around $1600 to 2400 ..no changes but when I called they told me it was do to inflation and the costs to rebuilt for lumber, etc.


this last QUOTE=DALEPQ;2175733]Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.[/QUOTE]


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