[Professor]

Originally Posted by ridge

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Mine are 15 years old and none have leaked.

[mikeberk]

One of my valves started to leak when it was about six years old. I noticed a puddle under the valve behind the bathroom toilet. I replaced all of them with 90° metal ball valves. The replacement PVC glue on valves are available at Lowe’s or Home Depot. To get the existing shark bite valve off pull out and turn counterclockwise about 30 times. Remember to pull on the valve every time you turn it. I also replaced all of the feeder lines with braided reinforced lines. Don’t forget to replace the dishwasher and refrigerator push pull Acron valves.

[jrref]

The problem with these push-pull valves is not only that they can fail over time BUT on some valves like the ice maker and the toilets you can't replace the supply hose. These supply hoses are rated for about 5 - 8 years and after that you are gambling on when they will fail. And yes, there will be the homeowners who say theirs are going on 20 years without a problem and that's fine. Just know you are gambling every day and if and when you do get the failure of the valve or supply hose, unless you are home and catch the flood, you will be in for a very large expense and inconvenience.

Same goes for the washing machine hoses. They need to be changed every 5 years or so or whatever they are warranteed for. Some are 5 years and some are 10 years. If and when you have a washing maching supply hose failure, you will remember it for the rest of your life. Especially if it happens when you are not home, like shopping at Publix or while eating out or dancing at the square. The flooding will be dramatic.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

everything works until it doesn't. .

As far as those who say wait until they leak, are counting on them leaking slowly and is found as soon as the leak starts. However, that would be good luck. Bad luck would be a flood while no one is home. .

I replaced mine with shark bites myself, where they were easy. However, there was one under a toilet which was difficult, and scarred the PVC, so i had a plumber do it, with a pvc glue on valve for safety, because I like to be proactive on maintenance, which saves time and money in the long run.

Goodluck to those of you who are lazy with known crappy valves, your luck might work, but it might not.

[ithos]

Has anyone installed a smart isolation valve which will close upon a detection of water on the floor through out the house?

This is one I found on Amazon.
Amazon.com

[tjdmlhw]

Originally Posted by ridge

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

Our home is over 17 years old and still has the original valves with no problems. Last year our original dishwasher quit (17 years is a good run for a dishwasher) and Home Depot would not do the installation because of the pull/push valve. They set up installation with a plumber, but it was going to be over a week delay, so we called our normal plumber to have the job done. They said they would use the old valve, but would not guarantee the work. We had them switch over to a metal valve.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by ithos

Has anyone installed a smart isolation valve which will close upon a detection of water on the floor through out the house?

This is one I found on Amazon.
Amazon.com

This will not work on the main shutoff valves we have here in the Villages unless you change it for a brass one and even then there may not be enough room.

As soon as I moved in to my Villages home, I installed an automated main water shutoff valve and water sensors throughout my home. Look for the in-line valve systems like from Moen, Homeseer and others.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by ridge

Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.

I have one that is 22 years old. Works just fine. Use it about once or twice a year. Previous owner replaced the other one before we bought at 13 years.

[jrref]

Originally Posted by tjdmlhw

Our home is over 17 years old and still has the original valves with no problems. Last year our original dishwasher quit (17 years is a good run for a dishwasher) and Home Depot would not do the installation because of the pull/push valve. They set up installation with a plumber, but it was going to be over a week delay, so we called our normal plumber to have the job done. They said they would use the old valve, but would not guarantee the work. We had them switch over to a metal valve.

Your situation is a great example of not having a problem for many years BUT this usually is not the norm and as mentioned, you are gambling every day you keep those old valves and supply hoses.

Take it from experience, in your case when everything is very old, you probably won't get a slow leak. You will probably get a failure and the flood will be spectacular.

[LuLinn]

Torri replaced ours with all metal in the first year but I cannot what we paid.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

One poster says the cost was not a lot and another poster says the cost was extremely high. Not very helpful. Posting an actual cost would be more helpful.

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

The quote from village plumber was about $ 100 per valve

I agree that is extremely high. Mike Scott only charged me $120 for 2 valves. I would hope there would a discount for 14 valves. From other posts, I have concluded that Village Plumber is higher than most plumbers.

[loufromnewjersey]

Need to remember that the push/pull valves are out of code now so you need to replace them when installing anything new. I went with metal 1/4 turn valves.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by loufromnewjersey

Need to remember that the push/pull valves are out of code now so you need to replace them when installing anything new. I went with metal 1/4 turn valves.

Do you have a source for the code violation? My research indicates that the Accor push-pull valves do comply with the National Plumbing Code.

[Nell57]

I had a plumber here for an unrelated issue. I told him that I would like to replace all the valves in my 18 year old house. He asked me if I ever used those valves, because once you start pushing them in and out is when you have problems. I said no….i always turn off water in the garage.
He said to just leave them alone, so that’s what I do.