[daniel200]

If the ladies are carrying concealed brass knuckles, is it not to be expected that the guys will carry weapons with armor piercing bullets?

Kind of reminds me of the cold war “tit for tat” military escalation

[Kenswing]

Originally Posted by daniel200

If the ladies are carrying concealed brass knuckles, is it not to be expected that the guys will carry weapons with armor piercing bullets?

Kind of reminds me of the cold war “tit for tat” military escalation

I'm suspicious of anything posted on that site. If armor piercing handgun ammunition actually exists I've never seen it. And even if there is such a thing there aren't many handguns around that can produce the muzzle velocity required to actually pierce armor.

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I'm suspicious of anything posted on that site. If armor piercing handgun ammunition actually exists I've never seen it. And even if there is such a thing there aren't many handguns around that can produce the muzzle velocity to actually pierce armor.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by daniel200

If the ladies are carrying concealed brass knuckles, is it not to be expected that the guys will carry weapons with armor piercing bullets?

Kind of reminds me of the cold war “tit for tat” military escalation

As far as cold war escalation. Escalation of military hardware has been going on forever.
Lady carrying brass knuckles in a stolen car. Reality the car is a better weapon as it is stolen she does not need to care about damage to the car.

Armor piercing bullets, not sure but I don't think they are legal to own. In smaller calibers like a pistol, I assume the intent is/was to shoot through bullet proof vests.

It is interesting that much of the ammo sold for self defense is not used in combat as it is outlawed by the Geneva convention.

There is an old movie, a documentary showing Browning the inventor of the modern machine gun saying his invention would end war. No one would be crazy enough to attack a machine gun. Shortly after that was WWI.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I'm suspicious of anything posted on that site. If armor piercing handgun ammunition actually exists I've never seen it. And even if there is such a thing there aren't many handguns around that can produce the muzzle velocity required to actually pierce armor.

There is no shortage of improper terms. There was a line of Teflon coated bullets that would not be stopped by a bullet proof vest. Assault rifle the term is used over and over and over again. An assault rifle is by definition an automatic weapon and it is illegal to own.

[manaboutown]

Increasing population means more crime.

[Bjeanj]

Personally, I think the OP is overreacting. More dangerous than when? 20 years ago? Probably. The semi-auto gun carrier was picked up in Wildwood. And the brass knuckles? Meh, more of a defensive weapon, and given her propensity for stealing cars, I’m not surprised she has such a defensive weapon on her. Much better than semi-autos, right?

[Woodbear]

Originally Posted by DAVES

There is no shortage of improper terms. There was a line of Teflon coated bullets that would not be stopped by a bullet proof vest. Assault rifle the term is used over and over and over again. An assault rifle is by definition an automatic weapon and it is illegal to own.

Full auto guns can be legally owned by private citizens. The easiest way to own one is to become an FFL (more easily home-based FFL). Another route would be to buy one produced prior to 1986 and file ATF Form 4. FYI, a full auto gun built prior to 1986 will cost ya more than $15,000.

All bets are off if you are a "prohibited person" and therefore cannot own a gun in the first place.

[Bay Kid]

Bad news sells.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I'm suspicious of anything posted on that site. If armor piercing handgun ammunition actually exists I've never seen it. And even if there is such a thing there aren't many handguns around that can produce the muzzle velocity required to actually pierce armor.

^^^

What he said...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DAVES

There is no shortage of improper terms. There was a line of Teflon coated bullets that would not be stopped by a bullet proof vest. Assault rifle the term is used over and over and over again. An assault rifle is by definition an automatic weapon and it is illegal to own.

Not to pick nits, but you most certainly CAN own a fully automatic weapon with the required paperwork and background checks.

Although most of them are in the hands of collectors, due to their exorbitant price...

[Freehiker]

LoL

It’s NOT illegal. It requires a little effort, some time and a minimal amount of money. I own several.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Freehiker

LoL

It’s NOT illegal. It requires a little effort, some time and a minimal amount of money. I own several.

But the real question is... Can you afford to feed them?

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

I'm suspicious of anything posted on that site. If armor piercing handgun ammunition actually exists I've never seen it. And even if there is such a thing there aren't many handguns around that can produce the muzzle velocity required to actually pierce armor.

I agree. There is no "common" AP rounds for handguns.

That said, a full powered 7.62x25 Tokarev round can hit just about 1700FPS and with a hardened bullet can do a number on armor. The Russians produced tracer and AP in this cartridge. I've never seen any of that anywhere though.

The round was developed in the 1950s when bad guys started wearing armor.

I owned a CZ-52 for a while and a whole bunch of Russian corrosive 7.62x25. An utterly unreliable pos. In fact, it has a de-cocker on it, which acted like a 2nd trigger, exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to do.

After I replaced the firing pin, slide release, cleaned all the mechanicals, massaged the mags and gave it a good lube job, you could sorta call it reliable. I still would not carry that thing with one in the pipe. I'm quite sure you could drop it and send a bullet into whatever was in front of the barrel.