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Reading The Declaration Of Restrictions For The Villages Of Sumter Unit No.99

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Old 04-14-2022, 08:23 AM
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I live near a corner intersection that has a Stop sign. The law says that one must come to a complete stop before proceeding. It does not say that if one sees that there is no oncoming traffic, they can drive through the intersection without stopping. Observing that stop sign on the corner, I have found that four out of five vehicles drive blatantly through the intersection without stopping. I have also had near misses when someone decided to blow through the intersection without even glancing in my direction, even when I had the right of way. I guess I should sit in my driveway and report every law breaker that coasts through the intersection without stopping. After all, it IS the law. AND everyone must be reported if they break the law. Sorry, but I have better things to do and if those violators blow through the intersection and end up in the hospital, that's their business. I am not my brother's keeper.
In my neighborhood, folks have all sorts of lawn ornaments. For those that say it devalues their property, I guess it depends on where you live. We have homes that sell the day they are listed. These are designer homes getting top dollar sales. One of the homes on our street has sold for almost $600K. Hey, maybe they could get more if neighbors were more considerate and hid their lawn ornaments, right? Maybe, like the rest of us on this street, we enjoy the diversity of personalized home properties.
Sorry folks, but we have had no derelict trucks or cars up on blocks in our neighborhood. I have seen an occasional flamingo, though. If you wish to spend all your time worrying about property values this late in your life, then go for it. It leaves more time for those that wish decent "T" times and less crowd at the pickleball courts. If you wish to spend your last few years on earth complaining about other folks, have at it. Hopefully, when I leave this life it will be with a smile on my face, not an angry frown. Some folks are not content until they make others unhappy. Some folks are happy when they can make a positive difference in other folk's lives.
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I think your No. 1 is the result of people interpreting a loophole in the definition of the "lawn". If something is placed under the eave of the house, technically it is not on the lawn. Or so they say.
I have always said that the lawn is grass and the yard is everything. If the restrictions say lawn then you just keep things off the grass
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Old 04-14-2022, 08:30 AM
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Just because no one complains doesn’t mean it doesn’t bother anyone.

I see junk and things I consider offensive in people’s yards, but I am afraid of reprisals if I say or do something about it. I personally like the idea of people driving around and looking for violations.

We all signed on to the restrictions and we should honor them.
Key word there is "You" think it's offensive, maybe "They" think it's beautiful.. A 250 pound 70 year old man at the beach wearing a thong is offensive to me but he thinks he's beautiful so it costs me nothing to just look the other way.
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Old 04-14-2022, 08:47 AM
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Actually believing that some people ride around in "remote" neighborhoods just to point out restriction violations appears to be a creation of someones imagination. Never seen it happen and assume as do those who might believe this action might be a tad bit paranoid....personally I have no issue with folks who do this(if they exist at all)because deed restrictions aren't typically addressed unless pointed out by someone. So having a person, who for whatever reason(nothing else to do, fed up with those who could care less about restrictions, or just ignorant)decides it's a worthy past time has my thanks.
I was "wrong" to have 8 2" colored solar lights in my flower bed. Later, 2 blue pottery spheres were "wrong." If I had put flowers in the spheres, it would have been OK. Go figure. This is the same person that has tormented the neighbors close to him for years. Such a waste of a way to live your life.
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Some rules are best followed precisely, and others are best looked upon as a mechanism for controlling the most egregious violations.
For example, "no alcohol on the beach". OK, so I'm walking down the beach, quietly with my wife, and in my Yeti cup I have a gin and tonic. I'm minding my own business, I'm bothering nobody. Was that ordinance really aimed at me with the idea that there would be patrols out, spot checking quiet people who aren't causing any problems?
Or, was the ordinance enacted to provide law enforcement with a means to break up loud, raucous gathering, fueled on cans of beer that now litter the sand?
Any rule, foolishly enforced, can become oppressive beyond it's intended effect. People calling in violations simply because they lie outside of the written rule, which are in fact not bothering anybody, are going beyond the scope of what was intended.
No one told me there is a beach in The Villages.
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Actually believing that some people ride around in "remote" neighborhoods just to point out restriction violations appears to be a creation of someones imagination. Never seen it happen and assume as do those who might believe this action might be a tad bit paranoid....personally I have no issue with folks who do this(if they exist at all)because deed restrictions aren't typically addressed unless pointed out by someone. So having a person, who for whatever reason(nothing else to do, fed up with those who could care less about restrictions, or just ignorant)decides it's a worthy past time has my thanks.
Yeah, thank heaven someone reported that 85 year old woman who bought her house 20 years ago, for having a sidewalk along side the house. Now she has to have it removed, maybe you could look up the neighborhood newcomer, who reported her, and thank him.
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I was "wrong" to have 8 2" colored solar lights in my flower bed. Later, 2 blue pottery spheres were "wrong." If I had put flowers in the spheres, it would have been OK. Go figure. This is the same person that has tormented the neighbors close to him for years. Such a waste of a way to live your life.
Obviously, your solar lights and blue spheres were a "gateway" infraction, soon to be followed by cars on blocks, and broken refrigerators. Thank goodness we were spared the inevitable decline of our property values by the vigilant.
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The recent threads about the "clipboard ladies" and deed restrictions got me thinking more about them. I must admit that when we purchased our home in February 2021, I never bothered to read the document.
Having purchases the home as a "resale" I just assumed that it was in compliance, or close enough, and frankly, among all of the other burdensome legal documents to read, the deed restrictions were pretty low on my list of priorities.
So, I downloaded the "AMENDED AND RESTATED" declaration. A couple of items surprised me in their vagueness, and one surprised me that it existed at all. Among the more interesting to me were the following 3 items. Note that the numbering is mine, and not the same numbers that identify the items in the original document.

Although the original document refers often to "The Developer" I am assuming that at some point the authority ceded to "The Developer" in this document conveyed to the CDD. I am in CDD 5, and this document was downloaded from their page on the "districtgov.org" site.

1. "Lawn ornaments are prohibited except seasons displays not exceeding a 30 day duration."
What surprises me here is that I've read a few times that something that may be prohibited in the sodded area is allowed on a porch, or in a garden bed. I see no mention in the document to that effect, nor do I see any mention of the restriction applying only to ornaments of or greater than a certain dimension.

2. "No tree with a trunk 4" or more in diameter shall be removed or effectively removed through excessive injury without first obtaining permission from the Developer."
I was unaware of this restriction. I see palm trees coming down often. I'd be really surprised if the CDD is often advised of these removals. I had been told that only the oak trees were protected.

3.(Here's a personal favorite of mine, of which I was unaware: ) "All owners shall notify the Developer when leaving their property for more than a 7-day period shall simultaneously advise the Developer as tho their tentative return date."

This one got me to thinking about all of the posts I've read stating essentially "Well, if you read your deed restrictions, and follow the rules, you've got nothing to worry about." I have a hard time imagining even these strict rule followers bother to advise the CDD that they are leaving their homes for a week. And I have an even harder time imaging the reaction of whoever it is who is supposed to receive this notice, upon receiving this important information from the loyal rule follower.

I have no issue with the deed restrictions. I think they serve a useful purpose. I have seen my share of front yards in other areas, outside of TV, with more crap in the yard than I'd like to look at in my neighborhood, so I get the value of having deed restrictions, and I appreciate that to a significant degree, what I like about my neighborhood is protected by the deed restrictions.
Having said that, I don't see the value in riding around in remote neighborhoods looking for violations that evidently pass the standards of the immediate neighbors, and I do see a value in allowing a certain degree of artistic expression in the landscaping and adornment of one's property.
It strikes me as a shame that some people can't see their way to letting other people live their lives in peace, as long as they're not bothering their neighbors.
I agree. It’s one thing if you have an issue with a neighbor on your own street. It’s another to appoint yourself the deed restriction police. The CDD should not accept complaints that are not in the complainers own neighborhood IMO.
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Old 04-14-2022, 09:21 AM
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I agree. It’s one thing if you have an issue with a neighbor on your own street. It’s another to appoint yourself the deed restriction police. The CDD should not accept complaints that are not in the complainers own neighborhood IMO.
I agree.
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Old 04-14-2022, 09:27 AM
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It makes no difference what anyone thinks if it is a violation.

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Key word there is "You" think it's offensive, maybe "They" think it's beautiful.. A 250 pound 70 year old man at the beach wearing a thong is offensive to me but he thinks he's beautiful so it costs me nothing to just look the other way.
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Old 04-14-2022, 11:28 AM
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Don't know. The rule is in the original (historical) area document, so it must have began there. Maybe made sense when the villages was a trailer park.
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Palm trees are not treated as trees and no permission is required by the ARC to remove a Plam tree.
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Old 04-14-2022, 12:56 PM
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No one told me there is a beach in The Villages.
Really? SeaBreeze Rec Center.

They even play volleyball on it. The Spring Breakers showed up with their Frisbees and beer and trashed the place. That's why I mentioned it.
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Old 04-14-2022, 01:19 PM
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The palm tree is classified as a weed..
Golden Rains SHOULD BE classified as a weed. Maybe they are, maybe they are not?
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