[photo1902]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Part of it is 45 except where there is construction and once you cross over the bridge it drops to 35. All of Warm Springs used to be 45, if you look at a GPS it still shows it as 45.

Very aware of that road, long before Fenney was even started. I have a feeling the 45 MPH sign just south of the Turnpike will be pulled. I believe it’s a leftover from when all of 468 was 45.

But heading north on Warm Springs, south of the turnpike,up until Bradford is 35, minus the one 45 MPH sign by Grace Tabernacle, which again I believe is a leftover.

[russtcc]

To clarify some post misunderstandings we are not talking about building a new bridge. With a barrier between the cars and carts the existing bridge is big enough. Plus compared to the bridge over Lake Sumter on Morse the span is very short.

In addition I for one would be willing to participate in a group to discuss with the appropriate parties.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by John_W

I haven't been down there in about a year, so Warm Springs crossing over the Turnpike is only 35 in that area? My memory must be bad about that. If that's case, you can add the cart lane by dropping it only 5 mph.

It's a hodgepodge of signs, for sure. For example, at Charlene/Morse (Bradford entrance) the last speed limit sign on the northbound side is 35MPH (all the way to 44).

But on the southbound side, its 45 MPH from 44 until you get close to Bradford.

I just don't think they've kept up with removing the old signs during the construction taking place along Morse/Warm Springs.

[russtcc]

To make this happen we obviously need The Villages support. Does anyone know who would be the best person to approach?

It's possible to get things done with persistence. On a much smaller scale on Linden Isle the builders possibly forgot in one area to provide a ramp to the sidewalk for bicycles and wheelchairs. Emails were sent to the district and a crew came out and put one in.

This is much bigger but I think its important to reach out to the right person to propose the idea.

[dkaufnelson]

I would also like to add a request for golf cart tunnel at Fenney Way rotary so those of us in DeSoto and Fenney can access the beautiful walking trails in Marsh Bend and future bridge to Brownwood. Right now the only way we can get there is to drive all the way up to the tunnel at Magnolia plaza then cross under Marsh bend road at the Everglades tunnel which is much longer than if we could go straight across Fenney Way. The Villages has tunnels at most rotaries on Buena Vista and Morse so why didn't they put one at Fenney way for residents on the "other side of the tracks" who live in Fenney and DeSoto.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by dkaufnelson

I would also like to add a request for golf cart tunnel at Fenney Way rotary so those of us in DeSoto and Fenney can access the beautiful walking trails in Marsh Bend and future bridge to Brownwood. Right now the only way we can get there is to drive all the way up to the tunnel at Magnolia plaza then cross over Marsh bend road at the Everglades tunnel which is much longer than if we could go straight across Fenney Way. The Villages has tunnels at most rotaries on Buena Vista and Morse so why didn't they put one at Fenney way for residents on the "other side of the tracks" who live in Fenney and DeSoto.

You are kidding, right?

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by russtcc

This is a request to the developer to add an additional crossing for golf carts across the turnpike on the Warm Springs bridge. It has been shown that the north span on the bridge could easily accommodate cart traffic. In fact, compared to the Lake Sumter bridge on Morse it would be wider and much shorter. We appreciate there will be bridges at the north and south end of the Villages on this side of the turnpike but one in the middle would make sense.

The Water Lily bridge will be a great addition but for the Villages of Fenney, DeSoto, McClure, Linden and Monarch Grove a Warm Springs bridge access would provide a speedier route to the new developments such as the championship golf course in Bradford and other commercial developments including faster access to the Chitty Chatty bridge to Lake Deaton Plaza and the Rohan rec center.

Another concern is regarding the Hogeye Trail. The east side of the trail is along the turnpike and is a multi-modal surface with walkers, bicyclists, and golf carts. When the Water Lily bridge opens the amount of golf cart traffic on this portion of the Hogeye trail will increase exponentially. From a safety standpoint it would seem to make sense to decrease golf cart traffic there if possible, for the safety of walkers and those on a bicycle.

We residents south (west) of the turnpike look forward to the future golf cart access to the rest of the Villages. The addition of access across the Warm Springs bridge would be greatly appreciated.

you are dreaming -- right???? lol

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by russtcc

To clarify some post misunderstandings we are not talking about building a new bridge. With a barrier between the cars and carts the existing bridge is big enough. Plus compared to the bridge over Lake Sumter on Morse the span is very short.

In addition I for one would be willing to participate in a group to discuss with the appropriate parties.

good luck with that

[jet10s]

Originally Posted by bluecenturian

It would need county support so how about getting a LARGE group together and go to the county commissioners meeting to express our need and desire for this. There are County seats up for re-election and since 2 of the incumbents couldn’t even get enough signatures on a petition they had to pay to be on the ballot in sure it would be in their best interest to hear out the needs of their constituents.

Your issue with nowhere to go is just uniformed and lacking insight. They put a tunnel in that goes nowhere right now so why was it put up. It would take probably a year to get the lanes put in on 468 and construction is constantly ongoing so the issue isn’t put the lanes in tomorrow for use but to have a future vision 3 years down the road. It’s us a huge necessity for those living west of the turnpike.

dream on

[sallybowron]

INHO speed limits are "maybe,maybe not" around. Yesterday my husband was going 45 in a 45 zone and a person swept past us going 60 or more. In less than a minute he was out of sight.

[yabbadu]

Originally Posted by russtcc

This is a request to the developer to add an additional crossing for golf carts across the turnpike on the Warm Springs bridge. It has been shown that the north span on the bridge could easily accommodate cart traffic. In fact, compared to the Lake Sumter bridge on Morse it would be wider and much shorter. We appreciate there will be bridges at the north and south end of the Villages on this side of the turnpike but one in the middle would make sense.

The Water Lily bridge will be a great addition but for the Villages of Fenney, DeSoto, McClure, Linden and Monarch Grove a Warm Springs bridge access would provide a speedier route to the new developments such as the championship golf course in Bradford and other commercial developments including faster access to the Chitty Chatty bridge to Lake Deaton Plaza and the Rohan rec center.

Another concern is regarding the Hogeye Trail. The east side of the trail is along the turnpike and is a multi-modal surface with walkers, bicyclists, and golf carts. When the Water Lily bridge opens the amount of golf cart traffic on this portion of the Hogeye trail will increase exponentially. From a safety standpoint it would seem to make sense to decrease golf cart traffic there if possible, for the safety of walkers and those on a bicycle.

We residents south (west) of the turnpike look forward to the future golf cart access to the rest of the Villages. The addition of access across the Warm Springs bridge would be greatly appreciated.

Am not aware that the TOV is the official place to put in a request to the developer.????

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by sallybowron

INHO speed limits are "maybe,maybe not" around. Yesterday my husband was going 45 in a 45 zone and a person swept past us going 60 or more. In less than a minute he was out of sight.

Just like every other place in the U.S.

[yankygrl]

Originally Posted by russtcc

This is a request to the developer to add an additional crossing for golf carts across the turnpike on the Warm Springs bridge. It has been shown that the north span on the bridge could easily accommodate cart traffic. In fact, compared to the Lake Sumter bridge on Morse it would be wider and much shorter. We appreciate there will be bridges at the north and south end of the Villages on this side of the turnpike but one in the middle would make sense.

The Water Lily bridge will be a great addition but for the Villages of Fenney, DeSoto, McClure, Linden and Monarch Grove a Warm Springs bridge access would provide a speedier route to the new developments such as the championship golf course in Bradford and other commercial developments including faster access to the Chitty Chatty bridge to Lake Deaton Plaza and the Rohan rec center.

Another concern is regarding the Hogeye Trail. The east side of the trail is along the turnpike and is a multi-modal surface with walkers, bicyclists, and golf carts. When the Water Lily bridge opens the amount of golf cart traffic on this portion of the Hogeye trail will increase exponentially. From a safety standpoint it would seem to make sense to decrease golf cart traffic there if possible, for the safety of walkers and those on a bicycle.

We residents south (west) of the turnpike look forward to the future golf cart access to the rest of the Villages. The addition of access across the Warm Springs bridge would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck this.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by renrod

Guess who could take care of the speed limit, reducing it to 35 MPH, like Morse Blvd & Buena Vista?

But that still wouldn’t let golf carts travel on it.. it has to have maximum speed of 35 with golf cart lane or maximum speed of 25 MPH to drive down the road in golf cart and be approved for golf cart traffic. Only LSVs can travel on roads with maximum speed of 35 MPH.

[VApeople]

We do not own a golf cart and have no plans to buy one. However, I do have an opinion on this matter.

They should build a new golf cart bridge over the turnpike near where 468 crosses. It could be just like the Water Lily bridge.

Of course, that will cost money. However, it will make the new villages of Bradford and St. Catherine's more appealing and that means the builder can charge more for homes in those areas and recoup part of the cost.