[retiredguy123]

In my opinion, the form is not appropriate. It is overly broad, ant not consistently enforced. Many Villagers have never signed the form, even though they have participated in many activities for years. And this paragraph is particularly broad:

5. AGREE this Release is intended to apply to me and my guest's participation or involvement in or presence at any Activity.

Apparently, a guest, who did not sign the form, can sue the resident for an injury because the resident has agreed to assume any liability for the negligence committed by The Villages. So, if you sign the form, you better make sure all of your guests also sign it.

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

I don't share the outrage. The litigiousness of our society is totally out of bounds as it is.

Understand that we do do live in a very litigious society. Lack of common sense has made this condition worse.

How would you feel if you or one of your loved ones had an accident which was caused by the negligence of the developer and you or loved one had a serious injury and you did not have any recourse against the developer. If this waiver stood up or could stand up, they would not have any incentive to make sure that they maintain a safe environment.

Bet that a lot of injuries have occurred on athletic venues which are different issues.

[Dennys37Packard]

So? Did you ever look at the fine print on any other waiver you sign? Car rental, phone purchase, parking garage ticket purchased, etc.... all have the same kind of waiver....

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Dennys37Packard

So? Did you ever look at the fine print on any other waiver you sign? Car rental, phone purchase, parking garage ticket purchased, etc.... all have the same kind of waiver....

Have you ever seen one that attempts to waive liability for guests of the resident when the guests didn't even sign the waiver? (para 5).

[jpvillager]

Think about it. Even if you could sue it would be dragged out so long you would never see it's completion.

[retiredguy123]

Note that they ask people to sign the release form every year, but, according to the form, the release actually never expires. So, if you signed one 5 years ago, apparently it is still valid today.

[Skip]

Originally Posted by Cherstubbs

This waiver has been in place forever. Rec Centers would have members of groups/residents sign one each year. Not a manageable process to use any longer so I’m fairly certain this has shifted to an on-line effort. Just my thoughts …

NOT TRUE!
These liability waivers only started 10-15 years ago. They wanted every club leader to insist all their members sign one "to hold the developer harmless". Some club members signed with an "X".
Now the new 2022 Rec. Center Club Contracts have turned into a long legal document stating "you CAN NOT sue the developer", no matter what.
It amounts to: If the club accidentally burns down the Rec. Center, the club pays for a new building.
If the Rec. Center has an electrical fire and a club member looses his/her life, well, too bad.
These are NEW terms this year, not like the old "days, times and dates contracts".

There are some clubs that have read the new contracts and the president won't sign the long legal document, so the club folded or moved to a different place.

The whole legal thing is getting out of hand. It's no longer "America's Friendliest Hometown".

Skip

[jump4]

Originally Posted by Skip

NOT TRUE!
These liability waivers only started 10-15 years ago. They wanted every club leader to insist all their members sign one "to hold the developer harmless". Some club members signed with an "X".
Now the new 2022 Rec. Center Club Contracts have turned into a long legal document stating "you CAN NOT sue the developer", no matter what.
It amounts to: If the club accidentally burns down the Rec. Center, the club pays for a new building.
If the Rec. Center has an electrical fire and a club member looses his/her life, well, too bad.
These are NEW terms this year, not like the old "days, times and dates contracts".

There are some clubs that have read the new contracts and the president won't sign the long legal document, so the club folded or moved to a different place.

The whole legal thing is getting out of hand. It's no longer "America's Friendliest Hometown".

Skip

Thank you for this important clarification.

[Babubhat]

This thread needs to die. Florida Supreme Court ruled this is Valid many years ago. The villages conformed to the ruling with their form. The citation has previously been provided