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Figmo Bohica 12-30-2011 01:00 PM
First off, TV is a great place to live. We all have earned, worked hard and expect to enjoy the years that we have left living in a place like TV. But not all that are here are wonderful kind friendly people.

Second, the sheriff's Department, the local police, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, AFT, and on and on have no responsibility to protect you. They are reactive not proactive in solving crimes. All law enforcemnt agency are historical gathering agencies. They want to find enough evidence to prove who did the crime and bring them to justice. They are not there to stop the crime from happening in the first place. Google it, several cases have went all the way to the SCOTUS and the finding was and still is; The police do not have to provide you individual protection.

Third, that leaves it to protecting and taking care of ourselves. You don't have to carry a firearm or have a personal armed body guard with you at all times, but you can take some measures to protect yourself and your loved ones.

The four “As” – aware, alert, act, and alive. This applies to everything—daily life, driving, and to a self-defense situation.

“Aware” means you recognize, believe, accept and understand that there are various kinds of dangers in daily life, and that – yes – it really can happen to you. If this is your mind-set, it is easier to remain properly alert.

“Alert” means that you are attentive to your environment, so your physical senses and intuition are turned on and tuned in. Jeff Cooper listed alertness as the first principle of personal defense. When you believe it can happen to you, your brain is geared to look for things that don’t look right; then you can avoid them. In the book “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker, he writes that to “fear less,” you should trust your feelings.

Then “Act.” Take appropriate action based on indicators your brain picks up, often at the subliminal level. Even though our modern, civilized conscious mind isn’t always able to recognize what the threat is. Being prepared to act can be based on “crisis rehearsal”. Do some mental imaging, do some training, visualize and mentally see yourself defending yourself, successfully surviving and prevailing. No one knows exactly what we may do, but if we have trained, we have a pretty good idea of our responses. We will respond as we have trained. Act on the threat indicators, and you can remain alive.

And that’s the final “A” – Alive. This is not all doom and gloom. There is more to being alive than just avoiding threats and danger. Yes it’s often a dangerous world, but if you are paying attention to your surroundings - not just walking around looking at the cracks in the sidewalk – you will also be more aware of the beauty all around. You’ll see the flowers, the sunshine, the kids playing, because you’re not focused on yourself and your problems. Keep your head and eyes up and pay attention, and enjoy.

Lets enjoy our remaining years by being just a little more careful in our daily lives.

memason 12-30-2011 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 434147)
First off, TV is a great place to live. We all have earned, worked hard and expect to enjoy the years that we have left living in a place like TV. But not all that are here are wonderful kind friendly people.

Second, the sheriff's Department, the local police, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, AFT, and on and on have no responsibility to protect you. They are reactive not proactive in solving crimes. All law enforcemnt agency are historical gathering agencies. They want to find enough evidence to prove who did the crime and bring them to justice. They are not there to stop the crime from happening in the first place. Google it, several cases have went all the way to the SCOTUS and the finding was and still is; The police do not have to provide you individual protection.

Third, that leaves it to protecting and taking care of ourselves. You don't have to carry a firearm or have a personal armed body guard with you at all times, but you can take some measures to protect yourself and your loved ones.

The four “As” – aware, alert, act, and alive. This applies to everything—daily life, driving, and to a self-defense situation.

“Aware” means you recognize, believe, accept and understand that there are various kinds of dangers in daily life, and that – yes – it really can happen to you. If this is your mind-set, it is easier to remain properly alert.

“Alert” means that you are attentive to your environment, so your physical senses and intuition are turned on and tuned in. Jeff Cooper listed alertness as the first principle of personal defense. When you believe it can happen to you, your brain is geared to look for things that don’t look right; then you can avoid them. In the book “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker, he writes that to “fear less,” you should trust your feelings.

Then “Act.” Take appropriate action based on indicators your brain picks up, often at the subliminal level. Even though our modern, civilized conscious mind isn’t always able to recognize what the threat is. Being prepared to act can be based on “crisis rehearsal”. Do some mental imaging, do some training, visualize and mentally see yourself defending yourself, successfully surviving and prevailing. No one knows exactly what we may do, but if we have trained, we have a pretty good idea of our responses. We will respond as we have trained. Act on the threat indicators, and you can remain alive.

And that’s the final “A” – Alive. This is not all doom and gloom. There is more to being alive than just avoiding threats and danger. Yes it’s often a dangerous world, but if you are paying attention to your surroundings - not just walking around looking at the cracks in the sidewalk – you will also be more aware of the beauty all around. You’ll see the flowers, the sunshine, the kids playing, because you’re not focused on yourself and your problems. Keep your head and eyes up and pay attention, and enjoy.

Lets enjoy our remaining years by being just a little more careful in our daily lives.
A very coherent and helpful post!

Thanks Figmo!

Indydealmaker 12-30-2011 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 434147)
First off, TV is a great place to live. We all have earned, worked hard and expect to enjoy the years that we have left living in a place like TV. But not all that are here are wonderful kind friendly people.

Second, the sheriff's Department, the local police, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, AFT, and on and on have no responsibility to protect you. They are reactive not proactive in solving crimes. All law enforcemnt agency are historical gathering agencies. They want to find enough evidence to prove who did the crime and bring them to justice. They are not there to stop the crime from happening in the first place. Google it, several cases have went all the way to the SCOTUS and the finding was and still is; The police do not have to provide you individual protection.

Third, that leaves it to protecting and taking care of ourselves. You don't have to carry a firearm or have a personal armed body guard with you at all times, but you can take some measures to protect yourself and your loved ones.

The four “As” – aware, alert, act, and alive. This applies to everything—daily life, driving, and to a self-defense situation.

“Aware” means you recognize, believe, accept and understand that there are various kinds of dangers in daily life, and that – yes – it really can happen to you. If this is your mind-set, it is easier to remain properly alert.

“Alert” means that you are attentive to your environment, so your physical senses and intuition are turned on and tuned in. Jeff Cooper listed alertness as the first principle of personal defense. When you believe it can happen to you, your brain is geared to look for things that don’t look right; then you can avoid them. In the book “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker, he writes that to “fear less,” you should trust your feelings.

Then “Act.” Take appropriate action based on indicators your brain picks up, often at the subliminal level. Even though our modern, civilized conscious mind isn’t always able to recognize what the threat is. Being prepared to act can be based on “crisis rehearsal”. Do some mental imaging, do some training, visualize and mentally see yourself defending yourself, successfully surviving and prevailing. No one knows exactly what we may do, but if we have trained, we have a pretty good idea of our responses. We will respond as we have trained. Act on the threat indicators, and you can remain alive.

And that’s the final “A” – Alive. This is not all doom and gloom. There is more to being alive than just avoiding threats and danger. Yes it’s often a dangerous world, but if you are paying attention to your surroundings - not just walking around looking at the cracks in the sidewalk – you will also be more aware of the beauty all around. You’ll see the flowers, the sunshine, the kids playing, because you’re not focused on yourself and your problems. Keep your head and eyes up and pay attention, and enjoy.

Lets enjoy our remaining years by being just a little more careful in our daily lives.
Well spoken!

rubicon 12-30-2011 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cappyjon431;***890
Well, I hate to say it, but it was not a rumor, it was confirmed by my wife's supervisor at the hospital. Not a lot of details, but a gun was involved, it was a female hospital employee (not a nurse but also not a volunteer). and it happened at a remote parking lot by the helicopter landing pad.

Hopefully the Sun will report it in the next day or so just to put the word out there--remember, a lot of TV residents are not on TOTV. I never intended to bash the Sun, like I posted earlier it does a good job for what it does, but comprehensive reporting (especially crime reporting) should not be expected. They do run the "Ploice Blotter" in the local section (I think on Mondays), but they usually only show a log of arrests, not of crimes that were committed. Gracie, I know that they reported the jewelry thefts, but in my mind there is a big difference between a burglary and a robbery. A robbery with a gun is a lot scarier to most folks and certainly could be considered very bad "publicity." I certainly am not claiming "conspiracy theory," I just don't have real high expectations of the local paper.

I offered to drive my wife to work tonight in case she was scared. She said it was not necessary because she drives her cart to work and parks right outside the hospital doors. She also said that since she only carries a dollar in her purse to work, she would consider asking the robber for some cash to help defray our Christmas expenses. At least she has a sense of humor about it.
cappyjon431: It is not you who should be explaining or aplogizing but the rude and judgemental poster who jumped the gun (pun intended). it was a down right drag out attack and there is not excuse for such behaior. As other posters realized your information was helpful and timely.

Finally I keep asking myself why so many village residents come to the defense of The villages so quickly. It doesn't need any defending. We are all fine here and live a good life and in a safer place than most. Please chill out The villages speaks for itself.

TrudyM 12-30-2011 02:23 PM
Do local teens have nothing to do - trouble follows?
 
Hi,
AS YOU HAVE ALL STATED THAT THE VILLAGES HAS NO HIGHER CRIME RATE THAN MOST PLACES, SO IS THE FOLLOWING NO LONGER TRUE?

This is sort of related. I recently met a 30ish gal who attended your local high school. Obviously it was years ago (maybe 13 or so). Her concern with our plan to move to the villages is that when she lived there the high school kids in the area had nothing to do, so they were major into drugs and drinking. She said it was a bad scene for the villages as some of the seniors and their homes were easy targets to support these kids drug habits. She was very glad when they moved away.

Trudy M
Will I ever get to the villages?

2BNTV 12-30-2011 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=cappyjon431;434128] I want us all to be happy, healthy, and safe this holiday season.

cappyjon:

You are a cool dude. :) Thanks for posting.

2BNTV 12-30-2011 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Figmo Bohica (Post 434147)
First off, TV is a great place to live. We all have earned, worked hard and expect to enjoy the years that we have left living in a place like TV. But not all that are here are wonderful kind friendly people.

Second, the sheriff's Department, the local police, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, AFT, and on and on have no responsibility to protect you. They are reactive not proactive in solving crimes. All law enforcemnt agency are historical gathering agencies. They want to find enough evidence to prove who did the crime and bring them to justice. They are not there to stop the crime from happening in the first place. Google it, several cases have went all the way to the SCOTUS and the finding was and still is; The police do not have to provide you individual protection.

Third, that leaves it to protecting and taking care of ourselves. You don't have to carry a firearm or have a personal armed body guard with you at all times, but you can take some measures to protect yourself and your loved ones.

The four “As” – aware, alert, act, and alive. This applies to everything—daily life, driving, and to a self-defense situation.

“Aware” means you recognize, believe, accept and understand that there are various kinds of dangers in daily life, and that – yes – it really can happen to you. If this is your mind-set, it is easier to remain properly alert.

“Alert” means that you are attentive to your environment, so your physical senses and intuition are turned on and tuned in. Jeff Cooper listed alertness as the first principle of personal defense. When you believe it can happen to you, your brain is geared to look for things that don’t look right; then you can avoid them. In the book “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin DeBecker, he writes that to “fear less,” you should trust your feelings.

Then “Act.” Take appropriate action based on indicators your brain picks up, often at the subliminal level. Even though our modern, civilized conscious mind isn’t always able to recognize what the threat is. Being prepared to act can be based on “crisis rehearsal”. Do some mental imaging, do some training, visualize and mentally see yourself defending yourself, successfully surviving and prevailing. No one knows exactly what we may do, but if we have trained, we have a pretty good idea of our responses. We will respond as we have trained. Act on the threat indicators, and you can remain alive.

And that’s the final “A” – Alive. This is not all doom and gloom. There is more to being alive than just avoiding threats and danger. Yes it’s often a dangerous world, but if you are paying attention to your surroundings - not just walking around looking at the cracks in the sidewalk – you will also be more aware of the beauty all around. You’ll see the flowers, the sunshine, the kids playing, because you’re not focused on yourself and your problems. Keep your head and eyes up and pay attention, and enjoy.

[B]Lets enjoy our remaining years by being just a little more careful in our daily lives.
[/B]And I may add, "help one another"

Great Post FB.

Figmo Bohica 12-30-2011 03:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 434181)
[/B]And I may add, "help one another"

Great Post FB.
You surely may add that. Being nice costing nothing and getting a smile back is worth the effort. Who knows you might make a new friend.

janmcn 12-30-2011 03:53 PM
:bigbow:
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 434168)
cappyjon431: It is not you who should be explaining or aplogizing but the rude and judgemental poster who jumped the gun (pun intended). it was a down right drag out attack and there is not excuse for such behaior. As other posters realized your information was helpful and timely.

Finally I keep asking myself why so many village residents come to the defense of The villages so quickly. It doesn't need any defending. We are all fine here and live a good life and in a safer place than most. Please chill out The villages speaks for itself.
Very well said. Bombero needs to stay on his meds.

bkcunningham1 12-30-2011 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 434171)
Hi,
AS YOU HAVE ALL STATED THAT THE VILLAGES HAS NO HIGHER CRIME RATE THAN MOST PLACES, SO IS THE FOLLOWING NO LONGER TRUE?

This is sort of related. I recently met a 30ish gal who attended your local high school. Obviously it was years ago (maybe 13 or so). Her concern with our plan to move to the villages is that when she lived there the high school kids in the area had nothing to do, so they were major into drugs and drinking. She said it was a bad scene for the villages as some of the seniors and their homes were easy targets to support these kids drug habits. She was very glad when they moved away.

Trudy M
Will I ever get to the villages?
What do they want to do? There are gates, but as people have said, the gates are just for show and to take photos of the people entering through the gates; you can go anywhere in this big old world that you want.

charlie49 12-30-2011 05:39 PM
Apology in the Works?
 
Bombero must be working on drafting their apology.

CMANN 12-30-2011 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by buggyone;***886
Instead of these comments about bashing the Daily Sun, if someone would pick up their phone and call the Sumter County Sheriff Office - this whole thing could be resolved very easily.
Wouldnt be as much fun.



This is proly the only non negitive coment that from me, you will generate.

buggyone 12-30-2011 06:00 PM
Well, CMANN, I am very happy that I could get a non-negative response out of you before the New Year.

Best of everything to you and yours in 2012.

Bogie Shooter 12-30-2011 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 434014)
Thanks for the heads up. I think if I were a resident I'd be calling the Sheriff's Office and raising 7 kinds of hell about this incident.
Why? What did the sheriff do wrong??

TF Hutch 12-30-2011 10:12 PM
Figmo,
I am aware of your last sceen name, BOHICA meaning "Bend Over, Here It Comes Again" but what does FIGMO mean?


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