[Byte1]

Obviously, my post was misunderstood. If you entered at a different street and want to go straight and I am clear to enter (to make it easier, at the exact same time or slightly after), he is in the center lane and I am in the right lane wishing to exit the second exit (going straight), that means I am passing the first exit. If he is next to me and wishing to turn right, then he must wait until I am pass him. If he does not, HE is causing the accident. There is no sign that says I must stop to let him turn in front of me. I do not care what the diagrams say, YOU are turning right off of a circle regardless of exit. You must use your RIGHT turn signal. You are NOT using your left turn signal, therefore you are going right. You can NOT make a straight in a circle or you will leave the road and travel across the landscaping. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but go ahead and be right and end up in the body shop or hospital. Common sense says you yield to the person on the right that is going straight pass you, and you never cross in front of another car unless it is stopped. C'mon man! Personally, I drive defensively because I know that no one else cares what other cars are on the road and drive accordingly. My car lets me know when something is in my blind spots on either side of the car. By the way, those are yield signs at the entrance to the circles, so please don't sit there until the circle is empty before proceeding. Backing up cars in a line on the road is not safe either. I certainly hope that next time you cross in front of someone when making a turn, your spouse is not in the passenger seat, because it is not you that may suffer from "being right."

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Obviously, my post was misunderstood. If you entered at a different street and want to go straight and I am clear to enter (to make it easier, at the exact same time or slightly after), he is in the center lane and I am in the right lane wishing to exit the second exit (going straight), that means I am passing the first exit. If he is next to me and wishing to turn right, then he must wait until I am pass him. If he does not, HE is causing the accident. There is no sign that says I must stop to let him turn in front of me. I do not care what the diagrams say, YOU are turning right off of a circle regardless of exit. You must use your RIGHT turn signal. You are NOT using your left turn signal, therefore you are going right. You can NOT make a straight in a circle or you will leave the road and travel across the landscaping. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but go ahead and be right and end up in the body shop or hospital. Common sense says you yield to the person on the right that is going straight pass you, and you never cross in front of another car unless it is stopped. C'mon man! Personally, I drive defensively because I know that no one else cares what other cars are on the road, and drive accordingly. My car lets me know when something is in my blind spots on either side of the car. By the way, those are yield signs at the entrance to the circles, so please don't sit there until the circle is empty before proceeding. Backing up cars in a line on the road is not safe either. I certainly hope that next time you cross in front of someone when making a turn, your spouse is not in the passenger seat, because it is not you that may suffer from "being right."

If I am understanding you correctly, it sounds like you both proceeded at the same time. You wanted to go straight thru, the other wanted to make a right turn crossing over your path.

A person going straight thru does not have the automatic right of way. If you both arrived at the circle at the same time, the person farthest to the right goes first. This is standard law when two people arrive at an intersection at the same time.

[billlaur]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Someone needs to research the applicable traffic laws on how to utilize a roundabout.

could you imagine a 4 way stop at each roundabout...

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

If I am understanding you correctly, it sounds like you both proceeded at the same time. You wanted to go straight thru, the other wanted to make a right turn crossing over your path.

A person going straight thru does not have the automatic right of way. If you both arrived at the circle at the same time, the person farthest to the right goes first. This is standard law when two people arrive at an intersection at the same time.

I never knew this rule of the RABs. I don't ever enter a RAB at the same time as another vehicle. I hang back and let them go first. Maybe that is not the correct thing to do but I feel safer that way.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I never knew this rule of the RABs. I don't ever enter a RAB at the same time as another vehicle. I hang back and let them go first. Maybe that is not the correct thing to do but I feel safer that way.

You and I see it the same way. That is the definition of yielding. You allow others to go first while crossing your path. In the rare event two people arrive at the intersection the same time, the person farthest to the right goes first. Doesn't happen often.

[kayak]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

If you know your turning on a side road then get into the outside lane your don't turn into a lane to turn. I mean common sense tells you to get into the outside lane. If you where on the road an cut in front of someone . Cause if you hit me while driving in the inside lane while trying to turn you'll be sued I promise you..

It looks like someone believes you can get in the right (outside) lane in a round-a-bout and go around and around and around.
It also looks like someone believes you can change lanes while in a round-a-bout.
WRONG and WRONG

[Number 10 GI]

If a vehicle is in the center lane and signals to exit, a vehicle in the outside lane must yield to the exiting vehicle, that is what the law says. Supposed common sense has no bearing on this. Situational awareness, you pay attention to the other vehicles around you anticipating their actions and obey the law.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I am not sure which law you are referring too, but no lane has priority in the roundabout, at least in Europe and UK. and to the best of my knowledge, the US as well.
Vehicles in the roundabout definitely have priority over vehicles entering a roundabout.
If any vehicle has to give way to another in the roundabout to exit, then one, or both, are in the wrong lane.
A roundabout should be a continuous flow.

If the vehicle in the inside lane exits crossing the outside lane to the exit, as the law stipulates, how is it in the wrong lane?

Priority, right of way, basically the same thing. The inside lane vehicle has priority/right of way over vehicles in the outside lane to make their exit.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

If a vehicle is in the center lane and signals to exit, a vehicle in the outside lane must yield to the exiting vehicle, that is what the law says. Supposed common sense has no bearing on this. Situational awareness, you pay attention to the other vehicles around you anticipating their actions and obey the law.

I think some do not fully understand what yield means. It is exactly as you have said. It is the law to allow a vehicle to go first if they are crossing your path. I just do not understand why people can't wait for the driver to cross. It only takes a few seconds. Like most said, there aren't many accidents in the roundabouts. Sounds like a lot of pent up road rage.

[jimmy o]

Not necessarily, many RBs have double lane exit.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

If I am understanding you correctly, it sounds like you both proceeded at the same time. You wanted to go straight thru, the other wanted to make a right turn crossing over your path.

A person going straight thru does not have the automatic right of way. If you both arrived at the circle at the same time, the person farthest to the right goes first. This is standard law when two people arrive at an intersection at the same time.

Isn't that the "custom" when you have a straight intersection. Not sure if it applies to side by side entry on the same road. I use the word "custom" because there is the question of judgement as to who got there first. Under law, it would be hard to prove. I would agree that the inside driver would need heavier proof that he/she was in the right.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by mtdjed

Isn't that the "custom" when you have a straight intersection. Not sure if it applies to side by side entry on the same road. I use the word "custom" because there is the question of judgement as to who got there first. Under law, it would be hard to prove. I would agree that the inside driver would need heavier proof that he/she was in the right.

You had me puzzled if this was just custom. I googled the Florida law. It stated, "when two vehicles arrive at an intersection at the same time, the vehicle on the left must give way to the vehicle on the right.". Not likely it is going to happen often. Plus, one driver will probably wave the other driver on. Most people tend to want to wait for their own safety. I know I would.

Plus, you can't sue someone in Florida. We live in a no fault state. All you can do is get the insurance company to pay for damages and bodily injury. Boy! Bet I just opened a can of worms! Please google if Florida is a no-fault state before attacking. I'm just the messenger, I do not create Florida laws.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

If the vehicle in the inside lane exits crossing the outside lane to the exit, as the law stipulates, how is it in the wrong lane?

Priority, right of way, basically the same thing. The inside lane vehicle has priority/right of way over vehicles in the outside lane to make their exit.

In the scenario you are quoting, both cars should have exited in their own lanes.
If the car in outside lane had to give way to the inside lane, that car would have been in wrong lane, or entered roundabout before both lanes were clear to the left.
There is no priority in roundabouts.
Cars in roundabout have priority over cars wanting to enter.
If a car has to stop/give way in roundabout, one is in wrong lane, or entered before it was clear in both lanes from the left.
It should be a continuous flow.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by Pettys1

If you know your turning on a side road then get into the outside lane your don't turn into a lane to turn. I mean common sense tells you to get into the outside lane. If you where on the road an cut in front of someone . Cause if you hit me while driving in the inside lane while trying to turn you'll be sued I promise you..

and you, sir, are the reason I will be soon buying a dash cam.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

You had me puzzled if this was just custom. I googled the Florida law. It stated, "when two vehicles arrive at an intersection at the same time, the vehicle on the left must give way to the vehicle on the right.". Not likely it is going to happen often. Plus, one driver will probably wave the other driver on. Most people tend to want to wait for their own safety. I know I would.

Plus, you can't sue someone in Florida. We live in a no fault state. All you can do is get the insurance company to pay for damages and bodily injury. Boy! Bet I just opened a can of worms! Please google if Florida is a no-fault state before attacking. I'm just the messenger, I do not create Florida laws.

You can’t sue in Florida because it is a no fault state??? Not even close to what no fault means. “Dan Newlin won me $3 million”. Hard to do when you can’t sue, plus he’d be on the unemployment line.
What happens under no fault is that you carry PIP( personal injury protection) and make a claim to YOUR OWN insurance company if injured, the Florida maximum is $10,000. Beyond that you can sue for medical bills, pain and suffering, loss of income and whatever else the lawyers can dream up.