[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You can’t sue in Florida because it is a no fault state??? Not even close to what no fault means. “Dan Newlin won me $3 million”. Hard to do when you can’t sue, plus he’d be on the unemployment line.
What happens under no fault is that you carry PIP( personal injury protection) and make a claim to YOUR OWN insurance company if injured, the Florida maximum is $10,000. Beyond that you can sue for medical bills, pain and suffering, loss of income and whatever else the lawyers can dream up.

The money is paid through the insurance company. You do not sue a driver for his personal assets.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

The money is paid through the insurance company. You do not sue a driver for his personal assets.

"you" absolutely do sue for personal assets.

the insurance company steps in up to the policy limits, but the suit is against the person.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

If a vehicle is in the center lane and signals to exit, a vehicle in the outside lane must yield to the exiting vehicle, that is what the law says. Supposed common sense has no bearing on this. Situational awareness, you pay attention to the other vehicles around you anticipating their actions and obey the law.

Can you provide a link to that law? I've tried but have been unable to find it,

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Obviously, my post was misunderstood. If you entered at a different street and want to go straight and I am clear to enter (to make it easier, at the exact same time or slightly after), he is in the center lane and I am in the right lane wishing to exit the second exit (going straight), that means I am passing the first exit. If he is next to me and wishing to turn right, then he must wait until I am pass him. If he does not, HE is causing the accident. There is no sign that says I must stop to let him turn in front of me. I do not care what the diagrams say, YOU are turning right off of a circle regardless of exit. You must use your RIGHT turn signal. You are NOT using your left turn signal, therefore you are going right. You can NOT make a straight in a circle or you will leave the road and travel across the landscaping. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but go ahead and be right and end up in the body shop or hospital. Common sense says you yield to the person on the right that is going straight pass you, and you never cross in front of another car unless it is stopped. C'mon man! Personally, I drive defensively because I know that no one else cares what other cars are on the road and drive accordingly. My car lets me know when something is in my blind spots on either side of the car. By the way, those are yield signs at the entrance to the circles, so please don't sit there until the circle is empty before proceeding. Backing up cars in a line on the road is not safe either. I certainly hope that next time you cross in front of someone when making a turn, your spouse is not in the passenger seat, because it is not you that may suffer from "being right."

Still a bit of confusion here. If two cars enter side-by-side from the same entrance then the car on the left cannot exit to the right (90 degrees). It isn't that he should wait, he should not be exiting there. The car on the left must take the exit straight ahead or the exit to the left. That *is* what the signs indicate.

If you understood what I was saying then you would not have mentioned the body shop or hospital.

Let's try this one last time. If someone is going north on Morse and wants to get on Pinellas, what directions do you give them?

1. Enter the circle and exit to the right.

2. Take a left at the traffic circle.

Using the common meaning of the English language combined with a little common sense, option 1. would put them on Moyer Loop while option 2. would put them on Pinellas.

In the end it doesn't matter since I very much doubt you would be giving me directions anyway.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

The money is paid through the insurance company. You do not sue a driver for his personal assets.

Actually, you do sue the driver The”insurance company” wasn’t driving the car, and insurance is a contract between the insurance company and the other driver. If the judgement exceeds the limits of the insurance policy you go after personal assets. In most jurisdictions primary residence and retirement accounts are excluded

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Actually, you do sue the driver The”insurance company” wasn’t driving the car, and insurance is a contract between the insurance company and the other driver. If the judgement exceeds the limits of the insurance policy you go after personal assets. In most jurisdictions primary residence and retirement accounts are excluded

My response was specific to some posters stating they are going to sue people for crossing over their path in a Villages roundabout. Even if this did happen and the injured could prove the other driver was at fault, the vehicles were probably travelling 20 mph.

How much personal injury could you have? It has been my experience doctors and medical professionals will not assist a victim in any hyped-up injuries. They report the true nature of their medical
condition in fear of being sued themselves. In the round about scenario, I see the insurance company paying the claim in full.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

My response was specific to some posters stating they are going to sue people for crossing over their path in a Villages roundabout. Even if this did happen and the injured could prove the other driver was at fault, the vehicles were probably travelling 20 mph.

How much personal injury could you have? It has been my experience doctors and medical professionals will not assist a victim in any hyped-up injuries. They report the true nature of their medical
condition in fear of being sued themselves. In the round about scenario, I see the insurance company paying the claim in full.

That is true if and only if the damages do not exceed the Florida PIP limit of $10,000. After that, it is Dan Newlin and Morgan et al.

As a board certified specialist in adult medicine, I can speak for "doctors"----we do not assist in hyped up cases, and NOT because of "fear of being sued"---it's because we all took an oath. But that is a moot point since plaintiff's attorneys almost exclusively call upon chiropractors and other quacks to be their so-called "expert" witnesses

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Mass288

Ok sports fans from Massachusetts here not proud of it either. Lol villages resident in 2 weeks..we have a ton here they are rotary,s round abouts are usually in england...and there are no left turns.....it's a circle all turns are of a right leaning direction...how do you take a left in a circle ????

A roundabout/rotary is just a junction.
Its a crossroad, T junction, or similar.
Many ways to navigate a junction. Traffic lights, four way, roundabouts, etc.
So you can turn left at a roundabout junction.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

That is true if and only if the damages do not exceed the Florida PIP limit of $10,000. After that, it is Dan Newlin and Morgan et al.

As a board certified specialist in adult medicine, I can speak for "doctors"----we do not assist in hyped up cases, and NOT because of "fear of being sued"---it's because we all took an oath. But that is a moot point since plaintiff's attorneys almost exclusively call upon chiropractors and other quacks to be their so-called "expert" witnesses

It's wonderful to learn there are decent workers honoring an oath they took. God Bless and a giant thanks to all of you!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

A roundabout/rotary is just a junction.
Its a crossroad, T junction, or similar.
Many ways to navigate a junction. Traffic lights, four way, roundabouts, etc.
So you can turn left at a roundabout junction.

No, you can't. All exits are to your RIGHT, once you get to that exit. Turning LEFT anywhere within the roundabout, will take you to the center of the roundabout. In some cases, it'll take you to the pump-house in the center of the roundabout. Taking a left while you're in a roundabout is a pretty dumb thing to do.

As you APPROACH a roundabout, you will see that you can HEAD right, ahead, or left. But once you are IN the roundabout, you cease to have "left" or "ahead" as an option. All exits are to the right of your vehicle. You're in a circle, going counter-clockwise. Exit is to your right, if you ever want to leave that circle.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

No, you can't. All exits are to your RIGHT, once you get to that exit. Turning LEFT anywhere within the roundabout, will take you to the center of the roundabout. In some cases, it'll take you to the pump-house in the center of the roundabout. Taking a left while you're in a roundabout is a pretty dumb thing to do.

As you APPROACH a roundabout, you will see that you can HEAD right, ahead, or left. But once you are IN the roundabout, you cease to have "left" or "ahead" as an option. All exits are to the right of your vehicle. You're in a circle, going counter-clockwise. Exit is to your right, if you ever want to leave that circle.

BUT, only the vehicle entering from the right lane can take the first exit! AND, only the vehicle entering from the left lane will be able to use the third exit. Both may use their corresponding lane if the choose the second exit.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Obviously, my post was misunderstood.

Yeah, that is what happens when you write a long, verbose, meandering post.

Most of us do not even take the time to read a post like that. The others read it and do not understand the point you are trying to make.

[Rainger99]

I was entering a roundabout yesterday. A car to my left entered at 6 (I was at 3) and the other car put his right turn signal on as he entered the roundabout. I assumed that he was going to exit at 3 so I started to enter the roundabout - but he kept going so I slammed on the brakes and narrowly avoided an accident. I think you are supposed to put your turn signal on after you pass the exit before the one that you will use to exit - not before!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Yeah, that is what happens when you write a long, verbose, meandering post.

Most of us do not even take the time to read a post like that. The others read it and do not understand the point you are trying to make.

One of many……..

Lot of repeated opinions. Results from not reading all posts.

One poster leads with 20 posts.

Soon to be another benchmark….200 posts.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by VApeople

Yeah, that is what happens when you write a long, verbose, meandering post.

I never read "long" posts.