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The problem with standing by that statement is that the driver in the outer lane that you state must yield has already proven they are an idiot by either trying for the 3rd exit in the outer lane or entering when a vehicle was approaching
Nevertheless, they must yield. Would you suggest they t-bone you instead?
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Nevertheless, they must yield. Would you suggest they t-bone you instead?
Better to say the outside lane must leave the roundabout at the second exit. Or, better to say the inside lane must not leave the roundabout at the first exit. Or, better to say the car in the outside lane should yield to traffic already in the roundabout before entering.

All the above demand proper behavior rather than accepting incorrect practices.
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That's a big "if". I stand by my statement.
Still wrong though.
Better to say nothing than give bad advice..
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Old 07-19-2023, 06:30 AM
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Nevertheless, they must yield. Would you suggest they t-bone you instead?
They shouldn’t be there in the first place. But yes, after the idiot has placed both vehicles in that position, somebody better yield, and yes, you’re right, it should be the vehicle in the outer lane. But would you trust the driver who already proved they’re a moron to now have an epiphany and do the right thing????
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Sounds like you are not reading the direction for the roundabout. The outside lanes once entered has to exit within two exits, if you go to exit the third exit you are in the wrong.
Most roundabouts have solid lines where the outside lane is forced to exit but so many drivers cross the solid line.
It’s not that hard if you just follow the directions that are posted before every roundabout
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This is correct. Simple rules.....Everyone should consider themselves entering the ROB at 6. Your options are:

Left Lane: go to 12
Continue around to 9
Right Lane: go to 3
go to 12 (you cannot go past 12 from right lane)
Simply put
Enter RB in the left lane we can exit the 2nd or 3rd exit
Enter RB in the right lane you can exit 1st or 2nd exit
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Still wrong though.
Better to say nothing than give bad advice..
The OP claimed that he would not be at fault if he was in the outside lane and ran into someone crossing in front of him to exit from the inside lane. I'm simply stating that the outside lane must yield to the inside lane (no matter how they got there). Not bad advice, but a fact. The alternative is a crash.
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Old 07-19-2023, 09:04 AM
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Enter RB in the left lane we can exit the 2nd or 3rd exit
Enter RB in the right lane you can exit 1st or 2nd exit
Good! But do you have any idea of how many numbskulls are gonna ask, "but what happens if you ENTER at the first or second exit?" Beware! They are out there.
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:35 AM
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Good! But do you have any idea of how many numbskulls are gonna ask, "but what happens if you ENTER at the first or second exit?" Beware! They are out there.
"You are about to enter another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination."

Imagine, if you will, a car approaching the roundabout at 6, intending to exit at 12. Another car has just entered the roundabout at 9, in the inside lane, intending to exit at 3. The car at 6 enters the outside lane immediately after the car from 9 passes. The car from 9 slows down to make his exit at 3 (and of course does not signal). The car from 6 is very close behind him. If the car from 6 is not paying attention, and does not yield, it's collision time.

This is a case where everyone is pretty much following the rules, but danger lurks.
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I would bet against you. Roundabouts in TV are the most confusing round abouts that I have ever seen. Using your scenario you need to cross over the outside lane of traffic.
Roundabouts in TV are really simple to drive through, if you bother to learn how.
The only confusing thing about them is the drivers making up their own rules to navigate them.
Betting against GE in that scenario shows you are part of the problem, and not the answer.
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:29 PM
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Sounds like you are not reading the direction for the roundabout. The outside lanes once entered has to exit within two exits, if you go to exit the third exit you are in the wrong.
Most roundabouts have solid lines where the outside lane is forced to exit but so many drivers cross the solid line.
It’s not that hard if you just follow the directions that are posted before every roundabout
If you think that you can't cross the solid line in the outside lane, then if you are in the outside lane you ALWAYS have to turn right at the first exit you encounter.
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Sounds like you are not reading the direction for the roundabout. The outside lanes once entered has to exit within two exits, if you go to exit the third exit you are in the wrong.
Most roundabouts have solid lines where the outside lane is forced to exit but so many drivers cross the solid line.
It’s not that hard if you just follow the directions that are posted before every roundabout
I don't think I've ever seen one of those - could you give an example?
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That's because - in a roundabout, if you want to "take a left" you go around the circle 3/4 and then turn your steering wheel to the RIGHT to exit the circle.

At an intersection, if you want to "take a left" you turn your steering wheel LEFT to exit the intersection.
AGREE...........What is so difficult to understand if you picture the RAB as an analog clock? You enter at 6:OO and exit at 9:00. Visualize that you have made a LEFT TURN even though you had to turn your steering wheel to the right to exit the RAB. This is not that difficult.

Her is another one......
Enter the RAB at 6:00 and exit at 12:00. You just went straight even though you had to turn you steering wheel to the right to exit the RAB.

It is a circle. If you don't turn your steering wheel to the right at any given time to exit, you will just go around in circles. Have fun. Wheeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
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What is so difficult to understand if you picture the RAB as an analog clock. You enter at 6:OO and exit at 9:00. Visualize that you have made a LEFT TURN even though you had to turn your steering wheel to the right to exit the RAB. This is not that difficult.

Her is another one......
Enter the RAB at 6:00 and exit at 12:00. You just went straight even though you had to turn you steering wheel to the right to exit the RAB.

It is a circle. If you don't turn your steering wheel to the right at any given time to exit, you will just go around in circles. Have fun. Wheeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
That's pretty much my point, to explain WHY some people find it confusing. Because we refer to exits as "lefts" when in fact, we are exiting to our RIGHT. Once we get to our chosen exit, that exit becomes a RIGHT exit. Even though when we enter the circle, we're heading "left" - to get around the circle. The exit itself is a right exit.

That's why it's confusing to some people. Because we keep referring to those 9 o'clock exits as lefts, when they are not lefts, once we get to them. Because we keep referring to the 12-o'clock exits as "straight" when in fact we aren't going straight, we're going around in a curve, and then taking a RIGHT to get out.

That's why it's confusing to some people. And around and around we go - but if you ever want to get out - turn your wheel to the RIGHT.
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Missouri Highway Patrol Sergeant Michael McClure:
"When leaving a roundabout from the inside lane of a 2-lane roundabout, do you have to yield to the outside lane? Don’t assume the driver in the outside lane is making a right turn. They may be continuing in the roundabout. So, yes. You should yield to avoid a collision."
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