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Bill14564 07-14-2023 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bogmonster (Post 2235203)
Look at the lines. At every exit, the right lane exits. In order to remain in the RAB you have to cross a dashed line, hence you need to yield to the inside lane because you are crossing his lane. The arrows coming in only tell you what’s possible.
The only two times that would come into play is if a car entered the outside lane without yielding to a vehicle already in the inside lane or if two cars entered at the same time and the car in the inside lane attempted to make a right turn (90 degree exit, 3:00 exit).

In the first case the car not yielding was in the wrong. The driver in the inside lane has the right of way not because he is in the inside lane but because he was already in the roundabout.

In the second case the car in the inside lane was in the wrong. He doesn't get to exit improperly just because the lines are dashed for the outside lane. The car in the outside lane has the "right" to go straight due to where they both entered the roundabout.

I'll need to find the statutes again but I don't believe the lines carry the weight of law that you seem to think they do. I believe they indicate what "should" occur and not what "shall" occur. But again, that depends on how the Florida statutes are written.

conman5652@aol.com 07-14-2023 08:02 AM
Wrong

jimmagrann 07-14-2023 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2235043)
And if I’m in the inside lane and going straight through and you’re in the outside lane going around 270, I promise you I’ll sue AND win
Only if you have an independent witness, not a passenger

Mikee1 07-14-2023 08:03 AM
It's really easy folks.... The vehicle that crosses the dotted white line must yield. Just like driving straight. Cross the dotted white line you must yield

coffeebean 07-14-2023 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 2235063)
I've been almost hit twice this week. I'm in the outside lane cause I'm turn on side road you don't turn Infront of another vehicle you go back around til you can get in the right lane
You need to refer to the "side road" as EXITS 1, 2, 3 and 4.

When you enter the RAB............

Exit #1 is a right turn and you must enter the RAB in the outside lane.

Exit #2 is going straight when you enter the RAB from the outside or the inside lane.

Exit #3 is a left turn and you must enter the RAB in the inside lane.

Exit #4 is a U Turn and you must enter the RAB in the inside lane.

Hope that helps.

Heytubes 07-14-2023 08:03 AM
What’s that little lever on the left side under my steering wheel for?

Mass288 07-14-2023 08:05 AM
Help
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2235255)
You're not "changing" lanes. You're taking the exit. You're CROSSING the outside lane, to get to your exit. As a driver on the inside lane, YOU have that right to cross, and people entering the roundabout on the outside lane are required to wait until you have either exited, or passed the exit, before entering the circle.
I drive these daily and now you all have me confused simple people just wait one second until the one in the rotary passes you then enter..easy peasy

Bogie Shooter 07-14-2023 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Flynguy (Post 2235220)
. I agree with that, but since I’ve been here, (1.5 months), I’ve come to realize that the elderly drivers are somewhat oblivious to their surroundings. They own these $80,000 cars, but they’re unable to negotiate the roadways efficiently. Getting old sucks, so we just have to be alert and use the IPDE process. Identify, Predict, Decide, Execute. Stay clear of them as many of them are likely impaired by Rx or alcohol or… BOTH!

Making a lot of assumptions about your new neighbors. :sad:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-14-2023 08:06 AM
I was entering the RB from 441 at Morse/Paige/El Camino Real. I slowed down to check for traffic coming around the RB to my left. I saw a car coming, and the driver put their turn signal on immediately after passing Paige, and they slowed down, in the outside lane. I thought - oh cool. They're exiting. So I sped up and entered the RB since they indicated they were exiting before they got to where I was.

I was wrong. They were just kidding. They had no intention of exiting at that exit. So they beeped and made nasty gestures to me - and tailgated me, beeping and gesturing and yelling at their windshield all the way to Banderas (which is where I turned to go to Publix).

All I could think about was - well - next time if they don't want to be inconvenienced by someone who is watching their movements to make sure it's safe to proceed, they should - be more accurate about the signals they're presenting.

MSGirl 07-14-2023 08:07 AM
My husband was in the inside lane going straight. Guy is in the outside lane (or right lane) going left. He hits the right side of our car. Common sense. You wouldn’t make a left hand turn from the right lane on a straight road. Why would you think it’s ok in the roundabout?

mntlblok 07-14-2023 08:08 AM
Meggison style exception
 
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Originally Posted by kenpoboy (Post 2235174)
This is correct. Simple rules.....Everyone should consider themselves entering the ROB at 6. Your options are:

Left Lane: go to 12
Continue around to 9
Right Lane: go to 3
go to 12 (you cannot go past 12 from right lane)
Pedantic point here. 😀 Going south on Morse and meeting Meggison, there ain't no 12 o'clock.

I liked the analogy of the logic of regular intersection rules except maybe for the "stop, turn right on red" situation - when making that right turn onto a road which has more than one lane, whose *right* lane is clear but whose "next" lane *isn't*. Actually, I still like it, but it has me wondering about whether that right turn should be made prior to that "next" lane becoming totally clear, as well. And, I *do* ponder it every time the situation arises - knowing that some of you folks will be blaring your horns from behind should I be exercising "excessive" caution. 😀

coffeebean 07-14-2023 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2235086)
Based on all these above comments, it’s pretty clear that it’s every man, and woman, for themselves.
If you mean "drive defensively", you are absolutely correct. These RABs will work perfectly every time if everyone, and I mean everyone, abides by the rules of the RABs. Having said that, it is impossible to expect that everyone understands the rules and abides by them.


So, back to square one. DRIVE DEFENSIVELY!!!!!

coffeebean 07-14-2023 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2235101)
Yeah, that is about right.

I always drive slowly in a roundabout and have my hand on the horn. If I see another person driving incorrectly, I give them a long honk and keep honking until they are out of my way.
I think to lay on the horn is a bad idea in a RAB. You may startle someone and who knows what they might do in such a confined space such as the RAB.

I have had the opportunity to lay on the horn to let a driver be aware they did something incorrect but I just don't do that when in the RABs. Yes, I'm from New York.

mntlblok 07-14-2023 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mass288 (Post 2235250)
Ok sports fans from Massachusetts here not proud of it either. Lol villages resident in 2 weeks..we have a ton here they are rotary,s round abouts are usually in england...and there are no left turns.....it's a circle all turns are of a right leaning direction...how do you take a left in a circle ????
Spirally.

coffeebean 07-14-2023 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2235116)
Roundabouts are just like an intersection with a traffic light. If you are turning right, you must be in the far right lane before entering the circle. Just like at a traffic light. Signal, then make the right turn keeping your lane.

If you are going straight thru, you can be in either lane, you do not signal, and exit on the opposite side of the circle.

If you are turning left, you must be in the left lane before entering the circle. Just like at a traffic signal. You signal that you are turning left. When you proceed, You will be on the inside of the circle. Drive thru until you reach the exit, keep your lane and exit. No need to cross over lanes. The circle is designed to avoid this. The lanes lead you out without confusion everytime!

If you have to make a full circle, you must be in the left lane. Just like if you were making a u turn at a traffic light. Signal, then make your u turn inside the circle. Signal right to exit. Again, the lane will lead you out without having to cross lanes.

How and why is anyone crossing lanes? Just pretend there is a traffic light at each circle. Am I wrong? Starting to second guess myself.
You are 100% correct as that is the way I understand these RABs are to be navigated. In fact, I just posted exactly what you have said in this post but a bit more concise. We are on the same page.


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