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Old 06-25-2012, 05:42 PM
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Sinkhole? Anyone know?? Can wave there magic wand and find out. Was hearing dump truck after dump truck so finally walked through the neighbors yard out onto Fenwick and some of the road is torn up and they were moving new mounds of dirt over the lot. They're not building, its a sold lot waiting to be built on. About a quarter of the roadway was torn up.

Just curious if anyone knows what happened. Looked good this morning when I drove by..was worried about the pond water level over there. Then this about 4-5pm.

Really looks like they were trying to cover things up fast over there Kinda feel sorry for the lot owner if something happened and they aren't told
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:53 AM
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We could see the many dump trucks from our lanai. They were still dumping at 6 PM. You don't think they would "cover up" a sink hole, do you?
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:47 AM
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I wonder if the lot owner will be informed by TV?
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They aren't the lot owners. They have not closed on the lot. Do you mean do you think that they people who have the deposit on the lot will be informed?

I have had only good dealings with the developer, his agents and the whole organization. They do not have to sneak around to sell lots. They are not the cause of sinkholes.

Probably a lot that has had the "grout" (that is what the cement like substance is called) pumped in would be a safe or even safer bet against any sinkage in the future.

It is scary and new to all of us. There isn't any reason to suspect the developer of being devious.
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And sinkholes may be part of the landscape around here but the question is are sinkholes/ground collapses on lots reported? Since there is no structure? I'm just wondering. I know it redflags the insurance of everyone around probably including the nice couple that owns this house if it does get reported. Still haven't read the paper today, anyone see anything.

The bulldozer was sitting in the road over there this morning. Still blocked off.

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Parents are leasing for a year to get a feel for the area only. They have owned several homes during my lifetime because my father was career military and is now finishing a stint with the govt before retirement. They didn't like being pressured into buying when we first came down here and throwing a huge sum of money into a build without knowing the area that well was not going to happen. Plus our realtor (sorry sales rep) for some reason knew the $$ amount they wanted to stay in but for some reason kept wanting to show us homes or builds that added a good $20,000 on top of what they want to put into a house. We walked away from that experience. And then you add in my father has to finish out a contract that got thrown at him and put a kink in his retirement plans in another state. We moved down here early because we got the relocation paid for. Whether or not we buy, and I say we because I will be on the home mortgage as well, or move from here to another community depends on what is seen during this year. Home ownership is always an investment and we choose carefully where to buy. I've seen good and bad about the villages already in the few months we've been here.

And sinkholes may be part of the landscape around here but the question is are sinkholes/ground collapses on lots reported? Since there is no structure? I'm just wondering. I know it redflags the insurance of everyone around probably including the nice couple that owns this house if it does get reported. Still haven't read the paper today, anyone see anything.

The bulldozer was sitting in the road over there this morning. Still blocked off.
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If this is a area with no sod or plants of course you are going to have erosion and maybe road washed out .Happens anywhere with new construction areas and this kind of rain.
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Will apoligize up front if my last post was snippy or snipey. Got me in a mood this morning.
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I currently have a deposit on a lot in TV. My design team meeting is in September when a 20% deposit will be required for the build, less the original deposit amount of 7500.00. I would fully expect to be notified by TV in the case of a sinkhole in or adjacent to my land. The consequences would be far too negative for TV sales to not do so. They could offer to fix the problem prior to building, or offer the person the possibility of changing lots. If it were during a build, they would be wholly responsible as I would yet to be insured... They are bonded out until the close. So in any case, to be above board would serve them well and make for a good future relationship. To do otherwise would be suicidal as the owner would likely find out and break any contract, leaving unhappily and telling everyone they know in the process! I just do not see that happening... Sinkholes are a real possibility just about anywhere in Florida and I believe most of us go in with eyes open! Conversely, where I currently live in IL, we prepare for tornados, microbursts and yes, even earthquakes! There is no guarantee wherever you may end up! We just have to believe we are making the best decision for ourselves!
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I currently have a deposit on a lot in TV. My design team meeting is in September when a 20% deposit will be required for the build, less the original deposit amount of 7500.00. I would fully expect to be notified by TV in the case of a sinkhole in or adjacent to my land. The consequences would be far too negative for TV sales to not do so. They could offer to fix the problem prior to building, or offer the person the possibility of changing lots. If it were during a build, they would be wholly responsible as I would yet to be insured... They are bonded out until the close. So in any case, to be above board would serve them well and make for a good future relationship. To do otherwise would be suicidal as the owner would likely find out and break any contract, leaving unhappily and telling everyone they know in the process! I just do not see that happening... Sinkholes are a real possibility just about anywhere in Florida and I believe most of us go in with eyes open! Conversely, where I currently live in IL, we prepare for tornados, microbursts and yes, even earthquakes! There is no guarantee wherever you may end up! We just have to believe we are making the best decision for ourselves!
That is what I think too. Our neighbors who are on their third house here were telling us of just that scenario last night. They said that a sinkhole appeared on the lot of someone they knew, a future neighbor, it appeared while building and the folks involved were given the choice of a new lot or repair of sinkhole.

Again. The Morses may be greedy and devious but I have had nothing to make me think so. AND I have never met them.

This whole sinkhole business strikes terror into every person, how could it not. It is potentially threatening one of the largest investments, if not the largest investment we have ever made. Plus your home is filled with treasured memories and possessions, thinking of the possibility of it falling into an abyss (with you in it) is just plain beyond words.

We need to remember that it isn't likely. And usually fixable. and worry is unproductive...and we have better things to do.
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I went to take a look. The hole was at the edge of the road and the empty lot. Looking at Sumter county records It appears to be lot 197-82 on Fenwick Loop.
The lot does back up to a pond but this was the front of the lot. As for The Villages, when we were building our first house near Captiva Rec ctr we kept telling the sales rep that the A/C units at the Rec Ctr could be heard in the house with the windows closed. After getting him to the house when the units were running, his eyes opened very wide, but he would never admit it was noisey. After much complaining they agreed to move us 3 lots away. The person who bought that house was told we turned it down because of the noisey A/C. You be the Judge!
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A neighbor mentioned that they're thinking that the damage may have occured because of a failed stormwater drainage pipe, and they might actually reexcavate the opening; does anyone have any more information on this??

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Gracie, I agree with you. The Developer has alwyas been in the fore front to protec thid golden egg he has created nd he will much to keep things positive. My objections about the Developer go in other directions.
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The lot you are talking about in ours (197-82) We left in April when all was well. We have our design appointment September 20. I am asking now about what was going on with our lot. We just sold our house in Minnesota and set to close August 2. Anyone finds out more keep us in the loop.
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The lot you are talking about in ours (197-82) We left in April when all was well. We have our design appointment September 20. I am asking now about what was going on with our lot. We just sold our house in Minnesota and set to close August 2. Anyone finds out more keep us in the loop.
There over there working on it again today. All I found out is from neighbors...they say its a sink hole but not a sink hole for all the good that does ya. I was told they found no running water. No homes around seem to have been affected which is good. Let us know what you find out as the official word.
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