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coffeebean 03-28-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 472136)
You guys do realize that we’re talking about the Sports Pools, right? There aren’t 50 Sports Pools in TV. I can only think of 3 between 466 and 466a. It’s not simply a matter of jumping back into your cart and going to the next pool down the road. You can’t swim laps in the neighborhood or family pools. And all of the Sports Pool have their own scheduled activities throughout the day.

Agree. You have to be a lap swimmer to realize the impact of closing a sports pool has. I was at a neighborhood pool last week for about an hour. There was a group of women who walked in that neighborhood pool the entire time I was there. At least that activity can be done in a pool other than a sports pool. Lap swimming can only be done in a sports pool.

coffeebean 03-28-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 472191)
Skybo,
We have a number of lap swimmers and walkers at our Tamarind Grove neighborhood pool. There aren't any lane markers, but no one seems to mind and we try to be considerate of one another's space.

Those who swim/walk do it when the space allows. Early morning and around dinnertime affords a pretty empty pool. I've even found a spot to work in the water with my Therabands at that time and share the pool with no problem or complaints.
The middle of the day probably won't work.... but I don't have a problem with that. The universe doesn't revolve around ME either! :jester:

Swimming laps in a neighborhood pool would not work for me at all. When I drive off the end of the pool, I would already be half way across those small neighborhood pools. That's no fun when I can barely get in a couple of strokes before I'm doing my open turn at the other end of the pool. The neighborhood pools were not meant for serious lap swimmers. Sorry.

JoeC1947 03-28-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 472824)
Swimming laps in a neighborhood pool would not work for me at all. When I drive off the end of the pool, I would already be half way across those small neighborhood pools. That's no fun when I can barely get in a couple of strokes before I'm doing my open turn at the other end of the pool. The neighborhood pools were not meant for serious lap swimmers. Sorry.

Are you in your car or golf cart when you drive off the end of the pool?

Carla B 03-28-2012 09:38 PM

Maybe the solution is for the developer to build the indoor pool that Swimdawg wants and charge a fee to use it. Then the Lifelong Learning College could hold their classes there without any conflict from the residents.

ilovetv 03-28-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 472746)
I was turned away from the pool by the swim instructor last week. The instructor had four students and the rest of the Seabreaze pool was empty. I always go to either Colony or Lake Miona if my first choice pool (Seabreaze) is full. I will say I was not happy to be turned away from a more than half empty sports pool. The instructor explained to me that it was not her who made the rules but the college.

When I was told the pool was closed, I turned around and started walking to the gate to exit. Then I stopped, and asked the instructor if I could use one of the empty lanes at the opposite end of the pool. I did not have an altercation....just a simple question. When I was told "no" and the college made the rules, not her, I left the pool area. Is that considered rude? Just wondering.

Maybe someone ought to suggest to Lifelong Learning College that a certain number of lanes--and not the entire pool--should be rented. This is done all the time by swim teams who rent a few lanes at a college or other pool....they rent a number of lanes so that classes or other teams can use other lanes.

An example here could be that LLC rents 5-6 lanes, for 2 students in a lane, leaving 4 or 5 lanes open for lap swimming by residents.

A swim instructor ought to be able to understand lap swimmers' needs and convey that to the college.

bulldogskid 03-29-2012 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472787)
Hey,Disney07, thanks for looking up that I had 5 post on this subject.Unlike you I gave my advice, did not see you with any advice.Maybe if you could look at the whole picture you may understand,or maybe you could not. I will be on thursday if you want to count my posts.

Originally Posted by paulandjean
This post will never end. Complain,Complain over something so silly. Grow up, Lots of people are now getting online now just to read how silly things have become down here. I am starting to get embarrassed.

"Grow up" and "your starting to get embarrassed". This is the advice your so proud of?

coffeebean 03-29-2012 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 472849)
Maybe someone ought to suggest to Lifelong Learning College that a certain number of lanes--and not the entire pool--should be rented. This is done all the time by swim teams who rent a few lanes at a college or other pool....they rent a number of lanes so that classes or other teams can use other lanes.

An example here could be that LLC rents 5-6 lanes, for 2 students in a lane, leaving 4 or 5 lanes open for lap swimming by residents.

A swim instructor ought to be able to understand lap swimmers' needs and convey that to the college.

That makes perfect sense to me. I've already completed and submitted my TV survey and I wish I had thought of that suggestion to put on the survey. Unfortunately, there aren't enough folks who lap swim to really have a voice about this.

swimdawg 03-29-2012 05:40 AM

Non- swimmers don't understand...
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 472822)
Agree. You have to be a lap swimmer to realize the impact of closing a sports pool has. I was at a neighborhood pool last week for about an hour. There was a group of women who walked in that neighborhood pool the entire time I was there. At least that activity can be done in a pool other than a sports pool. Lap swimming can only be done in a sports pool.

I've come to the conclusion that when talking about the need for an indoor pool or more lap lanes/time for laps...well, it's like talking to a brick wall to non- swimmers.

My Sports Pool is Seabreeze. If you look at the rec schedule, there are only 5 hours per week that are totally dedicated for lap swim. I've been in TV for two weeks and there was not one time I was able to swim in a lane. It was way too busy.

Imagine if they closed a golf course for prime- time golf because they wanted to give lessons to a few.

It's a very frustrating situation....and unfortunately, non- swimmers don't understand. :(

zcaveman 03-29-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 472878)
That makes perfect sense to me. I've already completed and submitted my TV survey and I wish I had thought of that suggestion to put on the survey. Unfortunately, there aren't enough folks who lap swim to really have a voice about this.

Your survey in not completed until April 8. You can go in and update and edit it until then.

Z

paulandjean 03-29-2012 06:58 AM

Here is my final take on this.The swim teacher was right. Time was reserved by a group. You have to play by the rules.What would happen is he said go ahead and do your laps ,and another person came then another, and he said no to them,they would be crying but you let the first person swim laps.Its like when I was teaching school, You have to have rules,some you like some you do not. Maybe the poster will look and see he was only thinking of him or herself.As I used to say to my students,you cannot just think of yourself,you have to think of others,and why rules and regulations are put in place.

disney07 03-29-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bulldogskid (Post 472877)
Originally Posted by paulandjean
This post will never end. Complain,Complain over something so silly. Grow up, Lots of people are now getting online now just to read how silly things have become down here. I am starting to get embarrassed.

"Grow up" and "your starting to get embarrassed". This is the advice your so proud of?

It was nice of the posters who did explain the difference between the needed use of the sports pools, compared to the other pools for lap swimming. I do not do lap swimming, so I am unable to offer advice. From the consensus, sharing the sports pool appears to be a popular remedy, although I'm sure it would be tough knowing how many persons would be in attendance, thus the need to put out a notice that the pool would be closed due to full class or not, leaving room for others to enjoy. Also we all have learned that the Lifelong Learning classes do not show up on the rec activities guide, so I'm sure many of those that use the pools during the open/available times will be double checking and thus able to make plans of other sports pools.
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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472787)
Hey,Disney07, thanks for looking up that I had 5 post on this subject.Unlike you I gave my advice, did not see you with any advice.Maybe if you could look at the whole picture you may understand,or maybe you could not. I will be on thursday if you want to count my posts.

Now I look at your advice that you boost of. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 471904)
No big deal.

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472100)
Boy is it getting bad here.What a bunch of complainers.Do you really see this as a big problem.My goodness go to another pool.Certainly seens that we are the "ME" generations. Had kids up north looking at this posts,they could not stop laughing. Grow Up.

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472532)
This post will never end. Complain,Complain over something so silly. Grow up, Lots of people are now getting online now just to read how silly things have become down here. I am starting to get embarrassed.

Embarrassed? Stop reading this post

English Ivy 03-29-2012 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 472885)
I've come to the conclusion that when talking about the need for an indoor pool or more lap lanes/time for laps...well, it's like talking to a brick wall to non- swimmers.

My Sports Pool is Seabreeze. If you look at the rec schedule, there are only 5 hours per week that are totally dedicated for lap swim. I've been in TV for two weeks and there was not one time I was able to swim in a lane. It was way too busy.

Imagine if they closed a golf course for prime- time golf because they wanted to give lessons to a few.

It's a very frustrating situation....and unfortunately, non- swimmers don't understand. :(

I'm not a lap swimmer so maybe I don't understand. However, it is what it is. Swimdawg, if I remember correctly from your very early posts, you did your due dilligence before moving here and were very concerned about the lack of an indoor pool but decided to move here anyways.

You should have also known that there are only a certain amount of sports pools where lap swimming can be done. Actually those living in the southern portion of The Villages are more fortunate than those living in the northern areas. You have Lake Miona, Colony and Seabreeze. We are coming to the end of what was the busiest winter in TV and it's only going to get worse in years to come. Even the summers are not nearly as peaceful and quiet as they were in the years past. You've got a lot of people in a relatively small area all trying to use a limited number of amenities and sometimes you can't do what you want to do.

And everyone is so upset about the college reserving a pool for lessons, did you know the high school swim team practices at Laurel Manor and they close the pool to residents when the kids are using it?

If I correctly remember something I previously read about amenities still to be built in TV, there is only one more regional rec center left to be built south of 466a. So that's a lot of houses for only a few more lanes to swim.

And for all the golfers frustrated trying to get on an executive course during the winter, there are only six more courses left to be built. That's not enough for all the people yet to come, but again, it is what it is.

Sorry, just felt the need to say all this. Have a good day.

jblum315 03-29-2012 07:57 AM

Too many people - too few amenities!

paulandjean 03-29-2012 11:22 AM

Disney07----And your advice? Did not think so.

bulldogskid 03-29-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 472990)
Disney07----And your advice? Did not think so.

Disney07 Quote
"It was nice of the posters who did explain the difference between the needed use of the sports pools, compared to the other pools for lap swimming. I do not do lap swimming, so I am unable to offer advice. From the consensus, sharing the sports pool appears to be a popular remedy, although I'm sure it would be tough knowing how many persons would be in attendance, thus the need to put out a notice that the pool would be closed due to full class or not, leaving room for others to enjoy. Also we all have learned that the Lifelong Learning classes do not show up on the rec activities guide, so I'm sure many of those that use the pools during the open/available times will be double checking and thus able to make plans of other sports pools."

Disney has already offered he has no advice on the pools. But he did offer you good advice. Stop reading if you don't like the content or direction of the post. Or you can whine about it. After all, a forum is for all opinions whether or not "you think they are silly" or "are embarrassed by them".


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