[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

Totally agree. The "facts" and important "details" of this are really missing in the public report of it. Concerning weapons, concealed carry, etc. etc. The part most people do not get, in their sincere desire to stop senseless killings and crime, is that passing additional "laws" beyond a "reasonable" process (such as permits, or excluding those who have mental problems, etc. Do we ever REALLY know if an individual has "mental problems") really seem to be a frustrated public's fruitless effort to continue to make sure the "wrong" people do not get their hands on fire arms. When you think about that, does anyone really think this newest idea, that banks and credit card companies must report individuals who purchase fire arms by check or CC, is going to work ? How many gang members and career criminals actually purchase their fire arms with their credit cards ? How many people lie on "questionnaires" ? It's similar to all the killing you read about by SUV's (you never see an article where a person was killed by a "Ford coupe", or a "Chevy sedan", nope, it's always an SUV ! But, was it the vehicle or the driver ? Is it the gun or the person holding it ? Could we stop all this needless death, far more than shootings, by passing more and more laws concerning who can purchase an SUV, or any vehicle ? Should be prevent the purchase of a vehicle by individuals with a history of alcohol abuse, DUI, suspended license ? I personally don't think people think through these troubling questions in a logical way. Thinking these types of problems can be solved, or even controlled, by man passing more laws? Not going to work in MHO !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by JGibson

In NYC this would’ve never made the paper. Shows you how rare these occurrences are and how safe TV is.

Probably true, if we really want to compare though, wouldn't we have to compare the number of incidents in the V's compared to the total number of residents and same with NYC to get an accurate pictures. Would seem to be the way to get a more accurate picture, meaning any town with 10K people, that has 100 armed robberies annually, or a town/city with 2.7 million and has 10K armed robberies annually..... would be interesting if our daily paper would publish the actual police blotter like you see in most newspapers. Always difficult to determine actual crime stats, as there are just so many ways to set up the equation used to figure them !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Facts have not been published.

Based on "stories", pretty quick trigger finger.

You can say that again, and again, and AGAIN... food for the masses to consume... LOL ! Few facts or details, a LOT of questions of who is/was connected to who. Any restaurant employees have any connects at all ? Just too many questions. Watch the Daily Sun for the facts when they come out.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Bingo.

Sad, but true.

I recall a few weeks back when someone got arrested and charged with a 3rd degree felony (in Lady Lake I believe though I may be wrong on the location) for shoplifting 2 containers of ice cream and one of whipped cream from a convenience store. Cops would be guffawing loudly if such a thing were even reported the great majority of the areas most of us come from.

This death (even though we don’t know the particulars yet) is regrettable. But everything is relative. Law Enforcement will solve this promptly and the law will function as it should.In that respect, Villagers are lucky people.

Considering the size and rapid growth of the Villages, we NEED MORE Police. We are an INVITING TARGET.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Considering the size and rapid growth of the Villages, we NEED MORE Police. We are an INVITING TARGET.

More police, to do what?

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

Applebee's is open until 1 am, except Friday & Saturday, when it stays open until 2 am.

Have they always had these hours, until 2 a.m. on weekend, 1 a.m. other days ? I truly don't remember, but thought came to me, is this an attempt to try to recover from the devastation of covid ? Just a thought, perhaps that's the standard hours of Applebee's everywhere ? Nothing scientific, just anecdotal...but it seems the food establishments that have extended, or all night hours, attract a higher percentage (not ALL, but a higher percentage) of "troubled" or impaired guests ! ? Maybe mom's advice about nothing good happens after midnight, or even 11 p.m., might not be bad advice...LOL !

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

More police, to do what?

Maybe they could arrest criminals?

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by RICH1

Why isn’t the information getting out on this Thwarted Attempted Robbery ?

Was it an actual robbery attempt ? Maybe the restaurant does not want the publicity ? Maybe an employee(s) were involved, maybe The Villages does not want these things made public knowledge (harms the "perfect" image) ? A LOT of "maybes"... the entertaining part of these types of social media sites, we can all express our "maybes' ...LOL !

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

More police, to do what?

Maybe if you get more police, they will build more sidewalks.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by RiderOnTheStorm

The Sun doesn't report bad news.

Oh, NO ? Really ? LOL ! But it's good for early bird coupons right ? LOL, LOL, LOL.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Maybe if you get more police, they will build more sidewalks.

This thread could be in the running for most entertaining of '23 !

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Was it an actual robbery attempt ? Maybe the restaurant does not want the publicity ? Maybe an employee(s) were involved, maybe The Villages does not want these things made public knowledge (harms the "perfect" image) ? A LOT of "maybes"... the entertaining part of these types of social media sites, we can all express our "maybes' ...LOL !

Although, it does seem strange that the police report wouldn't state whether or not the dead man had a gun.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Michael 61

The Villages are relatively safe - however I’m learning if there are stories like this, more times than not they occur in the northeastern/Spanish Springs/ Lady Lake quadrant of The Villages

Really ? We have a ghetto ? Really ? That sure was not the plan or intent of the founder ! Are you sure that people are "better" (morally better grounded, spiritually aware, honest, etc.) depending on WHICH village the buy/live in ? Interesting "theory", worth thinking about. What do the real estate agents advise ? Do they inform retirees of the "good" (meaning safe villages) and the dangerous areas ? A lot for potential buyers to consider !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Considering the size and rapid growth of the Villages, we NEED MORE Police. We are an INVITING TARGET.

I do agree that retirement communities in general, are "target" areas to some extent. Even to "service" providers, the sub-standard type "business" people who lie about licenses, registrations with the state, etc. Would more police stop the growing problem of crime nation wide, and here ? Maybe. Would not hurt I suppose, but how many communities are not having problems just finding suitable officers ? We seem to have a lot of alcohol fueled "incidents" here, not a prohibition proponent, we KNOW that does not work, but, alcohol does seem to play into a lot of incidents that reflect POOR or impaired judgment !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Dantes

I haven’t seen nothing yet
Wait until the apartment complexes are completed tens of thousands of non-retirees. The villages will be easy pickings

I'm not being sarcastic, but do you think that non-retirees are going to drink more (or less) than retirees, or have more metal deterioration or judgment impairments ? Fewer troubling personality and character "defects" ? Interesting to contemplate, do working people actually cause more "trouble" ? I have no idea, but interesting to ponder !