[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by lindaelane

We don't know the details of what happened. The most likely scenario is that the man entered the restaurant with gun still in hand.

Don't assume people are "bad" because they have a gun for self-defense. Lives may have been saved by the person with a concealed carry permit. I support hand guns for self-defense possessed by sane, law-abiding citizens. When we take all unlawful guns away from criminals, then we can start taking lawful guns away from the general population.

That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

[JGibson]

Originally Posted by RedChariot

This is SUPPOSED to be a retirement community! This is not what I envisioned when moving here 11 years ago. The direction this community is taking saddens me.

Maybe you would feel safer on Mars.

Seriously, TV is one of the safest communities in the country. Some people don't know when they have it good.

There is no place in America where some level of crime doesn't happen.

If you find a safer place besides Mars, let us know.

[dewilson58]

Facts have not been published.

Based on "stories", pretty quick trigger finger.

[RICH1]

Why isn’t the information getting out on this Thwarted Attempted Robbery ?

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Not sure if I can believe this as it was not in the Sun this AM.

The Sun doesn't report bad news.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

According to the information available, there were shots fired outside prior to the shooting. In the parking lot? If the shooter reasonably believed that he or others present risked life or great bodily harm when the person killed entered the restaurant and reached for his pocket, then at this point it would appear to be a justified shooting.

Stress "at this point". There is still a lot we don't know and that may be a completely wrong assumption. But if this story proceeds along the lines of most others of this nature, we can be assured that The Court of Public Opinion will have one side or the other tried, convicted and hung quite a long time before we know the complete story.

[Dantes]

They have a bar

[Dantes]

I haven’t seen nothing yet
Wait until the apartment complexes are completed tens of thousands of non-retirees. The villages will be easy pickings

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by lindaelane

We don't know the details of what happened. The most likely scenario is that the man entered the restaurant with gun still in hand.

Don't assume people are "bad" because they have a gun for self-defense. Lives may have been saved by the person with a concealed carry permit. I support hand guns for self-defense possessed by sane, law-abiding citizens. When we take all unlawful guns away from criminals, then we can start taking lawful guns away from the general population.

I thought guns were not allowed at places that sell alcohol. It may have been a good shoot, but the shooter could still be in trouble for it. I hope for his sake the the deceased had a gun.

[justjim]

In a larger city, the chief of police would be on television with more details of this shooting. Just saying.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy

I thought guns were not allowed at places that sell alcohol. It may have been a good shoot, but the shooter could still be in trouble for it. I hope for his sake the the deceased had a gun.

Not exactly. Applebees is primarily a restaurant, but they do have a bar. You can carry a firearm into a restaurant, but you cannot bring it into the bar area. You are only prohibited from carrying a firearm in an establishment whose primary purpose is to sell alcohol.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by mrf0151

Applebee's is open at 1am?????? Somethings not right with this whole story.

Yes, until 1am. Perkins is open until midnight. Margarita Republic is open until 2 am. Surprised me, too. I thought everything around here closed down around 8. But I wouldn’t want to go to any of them at that hour if that’s the sort of clientele they draw.

[JRcorvette]

Very few facts have been released on the shooting. I am guessing that the man who was shot was carrying a gun and who knows what he was saying or how he was acting.

[mrf0151]

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star

Applebee's is open until 1 am, except Friday & Saturday, when it stays open until 2 am.

Begs the question, WHY?

[RedChariot]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Maybe you would feel safer on Mars.

Seriously, TV is one of the safest communities in the country. Some people don't know when they have it good.

There is no place in America where some level of crime doesn't happen.

If you find a safer place besides Mars, let us know.

My point is that this is a retirement community. Or am i in a fantasy land believing that?! I understand every city in the U.S. is ridden with crime. Just seems to me we should not have people shot dead in a community of retirees.