[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

As an example................

Airbnb shows 30 rentals between 466a & 44 and 70 rentals South of 44.

This includes short-term and long-term rentals.

Doesn't smell like a significant issue for the County to attack.






Checked a number of rental periods in the summer months when most if not are available.

Unless it's in your neighborhood. It is a very big problem in ours, young inconsiderate renters and an absentee owner who doesn't care about the property or the neighbors.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

Unless it's in your neighborhood. It is a very big problem in ours, young inconsiderate renters and an absentee owner who doesn't care about the property or the neighbors.

If property is not being taking care of..........there are covenants in place already.

I did not see ANY concentration of rentals in ANY area.........Where is your "very big problem"??

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Each "Unit" has its own deed restrictions. I have seen a deed restriction for one unit that did seem to prohibit rentals. Unfortunately, I can't remember now which one it was.

There are at least two areas in CDD12 (not all) that specifically prohibit rentals without prior approval of the Developer.

(I did not check all CDDs or even all Units in CDD12. I found two with the clause and two without and stopped looking)

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

If property is not being taking care of..........there are covenants in place already.

I did not see ANY concentration of rentals in ANY area.........Where is your "very big problem"??

It only takes one in a Villa neighborhood to be a nuisance for many. The villas are very close, there are easement issues and parking is limited.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Normal

Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

There have been at least 4 threads on this exact topic, started in the last 2 weeks or so.

I guess I'm curious. Why do folks feel the need to start new threads on topics that are under current discussion?

As to STR's. I'm willing to bet, most short-term rentals units in TV don't have the required permit from the State of Florida. Just speculation on my part.

Most of the homes in TV are prohibited by Deed Restriction, from being used for "Business". That's either for the Developer or 3rd Party Beneficiaries to enforce.

The various towns/counties involved TV don't seem to give a hoot about STR's and there are some state restrictions on what they can do about it.

Here are some of the basics:

Everything You Need to Know About Florida Short-Term Rentals Law | iGMS

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

"otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values".....any factual support??


"Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting"....county wide guidelines??????...............good luck with that.

Not to be contrary, but honestly, many of us full time residents in our neighborhood of designer home models, are beginning to worry about just how "bad" this will become, and if it will begin to effect property values (right now it seems anything in Florida sells, and especially here in the V's). Of course there is nothing we can do, but we are sad that the folks who come and go in these larger homes almost never speak, have no interest of course in getting to know anyone, they will rent a different home for a week next year, and so on. Don't really want to be a "whiner", but many in our neighborhood are realizing it's depressing. We no longer have that "something special" among neighbors, one put it very well when he said " it's getting like the big city coldness I left years ago". I understand what he meant. I realize there is no answer, things change. Our street was not built for multiple vehicles, often blocking "just" enough of the next home's drive to make it a little stressful to back out, and most of all, just the "atmosphere" of not having any interest in knowing anyone, which of course makes sense when you are only using a home as a base for a week's vacation. The "quiet" part you were trying to understand, I can only explain for our neighborhood, but we've never had traffic and noise, arrivals and departures at 1 a.m., 2 a.m. etc. in all the years since building here. But again, before the hate speech starts, most of us do understand, we've had some of our "originals" pass away, and the commercial people, have scooped up 4 properties on just our block. Just hate to see it happen... out of our hands. An element of this same issue I see as faulty, is the opinion some have expressed that these "in & out" folks don't pay for amenities. SOMEONE always pays, the person who rents out multiple properties still has to pay amenities on EACH property, they can simply build that into the nightly or weekly rates.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

Not to be contrary, but honestly, many of us full time residents in our neighborhood of designer home models, are beginning to worry about just how "bad" this will become, and if it will begin to effect property values (right now it seems anything in Florida sells, and especially here in the V's). Of course there is nothing we can do, but we are sad that the folks who come and go in these larger homes almost never speak, have no interest of course in getting to know anyone, they will rent a different home for a week next year, and so on. Don't really want to be a "whiner", but many in our neighborhood are realizing it's depressing. We no longer have that "something special" among neighbors, one put it very well when he said " it's getting like the big city coldness I left years ago". I understand what he meant. I realize there is no answer, things change. Our street was not built for multiple vehicles, often blocking "just" enough of the next home's drive to make it a little stressful to back out, and most of all, just the "atmosphere" of not having any interest in knowing anyone, which of course makes sense when you are only using a home as a base for a week's vacation. The "quiet" part you were trying to understand, I can only explain for our neighborhood, but we've never had traffic and noise, arrivals and departures at 1 a.m., 2 a.m. etc. in all the years since building here. But again, before the hate speech starts, most of us do understand, we've had some of our "originals" pass away, and the commercial people, have scooped up 4 properties on just our block. Just hate to see it happen... out of our hands.

The point is The Villages was sold to us as an over 55 retirement community and these short term rentals not only don’t fit that profile but are actually disruptive to it. There are deed restrictions in place but the developer has chosen not to enforce them. It will just continue to get worse.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by oldtimes

The point is The Villages was sold to us as an over 55 retirement community and these short term rentals not only don’t fit that profile but are actually disruptive to it. There are deed restrictions in place but the developer has chosen not to enforce them. It will just continue to get worse.

The developer is not the only one who can enforce the deed restrictions. If you have read yours and believe you are correct then continue reading to the enforcement section. In mine, the first part of that section says the owners have the right and the duty to prosecute to bring compliance. Exercise your right, perform your duty, and initiate prosecution to stop what you believe to be a deed violation.

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You pretty much know from the other thread that there has not been any movement.

It is possible that Florida State law prohibits Sumter County from making any movement.

1,200 rentals out of 70,000 (about 2%) hardly seems like an inundation.

Not all 1,200 units are used for one or two day (or less than 31 day) rentals.

A demand for houses, even if only to use as a rental, would seem to drive property values up, not down.

All homeowners pay monthly for amenities whether they live here full-time, part-time, or rent to others.

Obviously you missed the intent of the thread. I want to get something going like Clearwater has done. I just didn’t want to be redundant with effort before submitting material before the commissioners. Thanks.

[tophcfa]

Bottom line, short term rentals suck when they are in your neighborhood and close to your home. It’s easy to say they aren’t a problem when there not in your neighborhood. We had a woman running an AIRBnB out of her home for a couple years which was extremely disruptive and disrespectful to the neighbors. Fortunately, she has moved out and our neighborhood is back to being peaceful and enjoyable, but I sincerely feel sorry for fellow Villagers who have to deal with a similar situation.

The internal deed restrictions being violated by these rentals are the responsibility of the developer to enforce and they have chosen to look the other way. It’s no wonder why, restricting rentals will reduce demand for new homes since some potential home buyers won’t be able to easily generate income from their home while living there. And as anyone paying attention knows, it’s all about selling homes. Talk about the fox watching the hen house, can you say “conflict of interest”. As far as Sumter County doing something about the situation, don’t hold your breath. The county is basically controlled by the developer, and if they don’t want to address the situation don’t expect the county to act otherwise.

You could bet your bottom dollar that if new home sales dried up because potential buyers strongly communicated they don’t want to risk investing their savings in a community with short term rentals, the problem would be addressed in a heart beat. But as long as new homes are selling faster than they can be built, nothing will change.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Streets????? STREETS???????

Didn't realize every "street" had its own government with the ability to pass laws and enforce them. Hmmmmm...... I'll have to make a list of "laws" I'd like to make for my street.

The deed restrictions were put into place by the developer before the streets even existed, they are no different than any other deed restriction, not laws.

[Sweatman]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

There have been at least 4 threads on this exact topic, started in the last 2 weeks or so.

I guess I'm curious. Why do folks feel the need to start new threads on topics that are under current discussion?

As to STR's. I'm willing to bet, most short-term rentals units in TV don't have the required permit from the State of Florida. Just speculation on my part.

Most of the homes in TV are prohibited by Deed Restriction, from being used for "Business". That's either for the Developer or 3rd Party Beneficiaries to enforce.

The various towns/counties involved TV don't seem to give a hoot about STR's and there are some state restrictions on what they can do about it.

Here are some of the basics:

Everything You Need to Know About Florida Short-Term Rentals Law | iGMS

Very interesting read. Begs the question, how many of these rentals actually have the required licenses and pay their taxes, or maybe even claim homestead exemptions.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by Normal

Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

I have had 2 rentals in the villages - one for 9 years and one for 5. I have NEVER had a complaint from a neighbor. I even ask them when I am down and they all say it is ZERO problem. Now, I don't do less that a month, and I agree the 4 day renters off AirBnB are a different type, which is why I don't rent to them. However, Condemning the whole rental business for the actions of 1 or 2 seems a bit unfair.

Here is my suggestion, instead of trying to get laws passed, why not talk to the landlord about it? You just go on the Sumter county website and find out who the owner is and get in touch with them when there are issues. Seriously, nobody wants to be a bother, they probably don't know. You may be able to get hold of them through the airbnb site also, not sure.

[Babubhat]

http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr...s/5025_753.pdf

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Packer Fan

I have had 2 rentals in the villages - one for 9 years and one for 5. I have NEVER had a complaint from a neighbor. I even ask them when I am down and they all say it is ZERO problem. Now, I don't do less that a month, and I agree the 4 day renters off AirBnB are a different type, which is why I don't rent to them. However, Condemning the whole rental business for the actions of 1 or 2 seems a bit unfair.

Here is my suggestion, instead of trying to get laws passed, why not talk to the landlord about it? You just go on the Sumter county website and find out who the owner is and get in touch with them when there are issues. Seriously, nobody wants to be a bother, they probably don't know. You may be able to get hold of them through the airbnb site also, not sure.

No one is talking about regular rentals. These are daily rentals like a hotel. Different people every few days. Could be one person could be 6 or more. Believe me they know.