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dewilson58 04-16-2023 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2207827)
Just don't stand on what you can find as always indicative of the actual situation is all I mean by this.

Not standing, gave an example.

:coolsmiley:

PersonOfInterest 04-16-2023 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207642)
Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

If you get your wish and limit or eliminate Short Term Rentals by some means of law or restriction, How would you expect to enforce it?

bark4me 04-16-2023 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207662)
We’ll just surround your house with rentals and you can tell us if life improved or if your property value increased….lol

True that... 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

lpkruege1 04-16-2023 06:57 AM

Short term rentals
 
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207642)
Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

Just checking if this includes The Villages Properties. It seems to me that they are doing way to many weekly rentals they call Lifestyle stays. I mean Really? These people are constantly coming and going. They definitely are not paying amenities. They get 2 free rounds of golf and choking the executive courses. Taking up space at the town squares, the restaurants, pickleball courts, swimming pools, and on and on. Plus, then a lot of them come back year after year without buying anything. Or even worse yet they Do buy something and sprawl continues. The developers told everyone there would never be anything below 466, I think we need to go back to those days.
Tear it all down.
Stop the progress.
Stop people from moving here from other states. Blue is a bad color anyway. Red is a good color like Wisconsin Bader Red.
Don't worry Be Happy. Life is to short to be worried about things we can't change.

bark4me 04-16-2023 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2207669)
You pretty much know from the other thread that there has not been any movement.

It is possible that Florida State law prohibits Sumter County from making any movement.

1,200 rentals out of 70,000 (about 2%) hardly seems like an inundation.

Not all 1,200 units are used for one or two day (or less than 31 day) rentals.

A demand for houses, even if only to use as a rental, would seem to drive property values up, not down.

All homeowners pay monthly for amenities whether they live here full-time, part-time, or rent to others.

In one section of Villas in Richmond, all are short term rentals except for 1 home!

LonnyP 04-16-2023 07:11 AM

I prefer to look at it as there are landlords providing a service to those that want to come visit our beautiful community but cannot afford to buy or want to buy. I have not seen the values go down.

Ele201 04-16-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2207814)
Are you sure that is how your deed restrictions read? Mine absolutely do not, mine state the owners have the right and the duty while the developers have the right but NOT the duty to enforce the deed restrictions.
All Owners shall have the right and duty to prosecute in proceedings at law or in equity against any person or persons violating or attempting to violate any covenants, conditions or reservations, either to prevent him or them from so doing, or to recover damages or any property charges for such violation. The cost of such proceedings, includiog a reasonable attorney's fee, shall be paid by the party losing said suit. In addition, the Developer shall also have the right but not the duty to enforce any such covenants, conditions or reservations as though Developer were the Owner of the Homesite, including the right to recover reasonable attorney's fees and costs. Developer may assign its right to enforce these covenants, conditions or reservations and to recover reasonable attorney's fees and costs to a person, committee, or governmental entity.
In addition, *some* deed restrictions include the highlighted statement below while mine do not:
Properties within the Subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial, professional or similar activity requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be conducted in a Home or on a Homesite. Renting and leasing of Homes within the Subdivision is prohibited without the prior written consent of the Developer. Owners of Homes within the Subdivision may not transfer their rights to those recreational facilities arising from payment of the Contractual Amenities Fee to any party, except to subsequent Owners of the Home, without the prior -written consent of the Developer.
So renting is prohibited in *some* areas but not all and if there is a violation, it is the duty of the homeowner to a legal remedy but NOT the duty of the developer.

To which I’d add, suing your neighbor over a “deed restriction “ would be most unpleasant and a hassle. Guess The Villages may not be the Friendliest Hometown in America after all.

Papa_lecki 04-16-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LonnyP (Post 2207914)
I prefer to look at it as there are landlords providing a service to those that want to come visit our beautiful community but cannot afford to buy or want to buy. I have not seen the values go down.

How many renters turn into owners?

Normal 04-16-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2207899)
If you get your wish and limit or eliminate Short Term Rentals by some means of law or restriction, How would you expect to enforce it?

Clearwater fines owners 250 a day for listings. V R B O and AbNb are listed publicly. It just takes neighbors to turn someone in. The fines more than pay for any investigation services.

Dlbonivich 04-16-2023 07:21 AM

Why not go to the District Representatives and ask them to change the Deed Restrictions. As owners we control our Districts. They are elected to represent us. Try that route. I say a petition to your District leadership. That is how condos control rentals at the beach

Velvet 04-16-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lpkruege1 (Post 2207908)
Just checking if this includes The Villages Properties. It seems to me that they are doing way to many weekly rentals they call Lifestyle stays. I mean Really? These people are constantly coming and going. They definitely are not paying amenities. They get 2 free rounds of golf and choking the executive courses. Taking up space at the town squares, the restaurants, pickleball courts, swimming pools, and on and on. Plus, then a lot of them come back year after year without buying anything. Or even worse yet they Do buy something and sprawl continues. The developers told everyone there would never be anything below 466, I think we need to go back to those days.
Tear it all down.
Stop the progress.
Stop people from moving here from other states. Blue is a bad color anyway. Red is a good color like Wisconsin Bader Red.
Don't worry Be Happy. Life is to short to be worried about things we can't change.

Are you trying to compare official Lifestyle visits by people who PLAN to buy in TV to live that lifestyle; to short term renters using TV facilities any way they want because they’re not going to be around next week?
And, are you saying ‘we can’t change’ things that we should adopt the attitude of ‘learned helplessness’ ? Have you noticed we are not in North Korea?

Veracity 04-16-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207730)
Obviously you missed the intent of the thread. I want to get something going like Clearwater has done. I just didn’t want to be redundant with effort before submitting material before the commissioners. Thanks.

Just a suggestion...Before taking a lot of time and effort to submit material before the county commissioners, call the county administrator and discuss your concerns with him. Ask him if the county commissioners have the "legal" ability to address the issue. You will get a lot of information from that simple discussion and it will guide your direction as to whether to proceed with a request to the commission and what information you need to include in your presentation to them. Good luck. You will have the best outcome if you are prepared with the facts and utilizing the county administrator's expertise is an essential step.

Bilyclub 04-16-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2207665)
Good time to bail for STONECREST ..


Bye-bye.

JMintzer 04-16-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2207792)
What I fail to understand is I thought I bought in a residential area, no commercial/business allowed. How is renting not considered a business?

You can run a business from your home. Many work on-line from home.

The rules deal with things like keeping inventory and selling items from your home...

People who have side gigs (like adding/replacing lights to golf carts) have always been allowed...

I had some locks upgraded by a Villager who was a retire locksmith.

PugMom 04-16-2023 09:03 AM

again, i must be the lone lucky person in TV. i live next to a short term rental, & i gotta say, i haven't met any negative people yet. be friendly-if something isn't right, or they are careless about the property, go ahead & introduce urself. kindly inform so&so about any concerns, & more often than not you'll have no problems. we got along so well with a family of renters, they reserved the villa for next winter! they claimed they'd not met such good people in our Village before, they decided to come back. it's that old saying about flies & honey. give it a try.


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