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JMintzer 04-16-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lpkruege1 (Post 2207908)
Just checking if this includes The Villages Properties. It seems to me that they are doing way to many weekly rentals they call Lifestyle stays. I mean Really? These people are constantly coming and going. They definitely are not paying amenities. They get 2 free rounds of golf and choking the executive courses. Taking up space at the town squares, the restaurants, pickleball courts, swimming pools, and on and on. Plus, then a lot of them come back year after year without buying anything. Or even worse yet they Do buy something and sprawl continues. The developers told everyone there would never be anything below 466, I think we need to go back to those days.
Tear it all down.
Stop the progress.
Stop people from moving here from other states. Blue is a bad color anyway. Red is a good color like Wisconsin Bader Red.
Don't worry Be Happy. Life is to short to be worried about things we can't change.

Hmmm...

Politics? Check!

I got mine, screw everyone else? Check!

Destroy your own argument with your last two sentences? Check!

JMintzer 04-16-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2207916)
How many renters turn into owners?

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We rented for two months 2+ years ago (after visiting friends the year before). We bought during the time we were renting...

tophcfa 04-16-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LonnyP (Post 2207914)
I prefer to look at it as there are landlords providing a service to those that want to come visit our beautiful community but cannot afford to buy or want to buy. I have not seen the values go down.

You are describing long term rentals, by responsible landlords, who are not renting out rooms in their homes while living there. That’s not what this thread is about. It’s about homeowners renting out rooms in their home by the night while they are living there simultaneously. These so called landlords are being inconsiderate and disrespectful to their neighbors.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 04-16-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lpkruege1 (Post 2207908)
Just checking if this includes The Villages Properties. It seems to me that they are doing way to many weekly rentals they call Lifestyle stays. I mean Really? These people are constantly coming and going. They definitely are not paying amenities. They get 2 free rounds of golf and choking the executive courses. Taking up space at the town squares, the restaurants, pickleball courts, swimming pools, and on and on. Plus, then a lot of them come back year after year without buying anything. Or even worse yet they Do buy something and sprawl continues. The developers told everyone there would never be anything below 466, I think we need to go back to those days.
Tear it all down.
Stop the progress.
Stop people from moving here from other states. Blue is a bad color anyway. Red is a good color like Wisconsin Bader Red.
Don't worry Be Happy. Life is too short to be worried about things we can't change.

And you have been here how long ??

Jcicales 04-16-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207642)
Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

Just a question- did you ever rent prior to buying? I’m guessing 80% or more do.
We did for years!!!!! You cannot control what has been going on for years!!!! and adds so much money to the community as well. I understand the AIRBNB is a bit out of hand but that’s up to the family to change- correct?

oldtimes 04-16-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2207987)
again, i must be the lone lucky person in TV. i live next to a short term rental, & i gotta say, i haven't met any negative people yet. be friendly-if something isn't right, or they are careless about the property, go ahead & introduce urself. kindly inform so&so about any concerns, & more often than not you'll have no problems. we got along so well with a family of renters, they reserved the villa for next winter! they claimed they'd not met such good people in our Village before, they decided to come back. it's that old saying about flies & honey. give it a try.

Are they renting it out for 40 a night to up to 6 twenty five year olds? Because that’s what I’m talking about.

tophcfa 04-16-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2208003)
Are they renting it out for 40 a night to up to 6 twenty five year olds? Because that’s what I’m talking about.

That sounds like what we had. And each of them had their own car or truck, two of which were parked on our front lawn crushing sprinkler heads. They also enjoyed sitting outside in the birdcage drinking, playing loud music, and making lots of annoying noise until the wee hours of the morning and drove around our normally quiet residential neighborhood at about 50 MPH. If it only lasted for a couple days it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, but it was a revolving door of different idiots with an occasional couple days off before the next batch of morons showed up. Thank god the woman running that horrible operation moved out.

CandJ 04-16-2023 10:11 AM

So we have rented over 30 times in TV because I am still working but can’t afford to have 2 homes. We have always been invited back to the homes we’ve rented because of how we take care of them and respect the fact that we’re a guest in someone else’s home. We always pay for the resident passes each visit so that helps to cover the amenities we may or may not use. More and more on here I’m seeing posts that are very unwelcoming to visitors and even renters or owners who don’t live there full-time. This is where I would love to live but just not possible at this time. We are very friendly people who love interacting with others but sometimes it’s obvious to us that the neighbors near where we rent aren’t interested in even conversing. Sort of disappointing. We’re not there to ruin your values or anything else. We’re just people who are very happy when we visit TV. It is a special place. Hoping the inhospitable attitudes don’t become the norm. We’ll be there May 27-June 7 so we hope it’s not too much for the OP and some of the others who are negative toward us as visitors

vintageogauge 04-16-2023 10:38 AM

I think it would be easier if Clearwater Beach would just start allowing short term rentals.

rjm1cc 04-16-2023 10:44 AM

The policy of the community on rentals should be one of your considerations when you buy.

Normal 04-16-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CandJ (Post 2208030)
So we have rented over 30 times in TV because I am still working but can’t afford to have 2 homes. We have always been invited back to the homes we’ve rented because of how we take care of them and respect the fact that we’re a guest in someone else’s home. We always pay for the resident passes each visit so that helps to cover the amenities we may or may not use. More and more on here I’m seeing posts that are very unwelcoming to visitors and even renters or owners who don’t live there full-time. This is where I would love to live but just not possible at this time. We are very friendly people who love interacting with others but sometimes it’s obvious to us that the neighbors near where we rent aren’t interested in even conversing. Sort of disappointing. We’re not there to ruin your values or anything else. We’re just people who are very happy when we visit TV. It is a special place. Hoping the inhospitable attitudes don’t become the norm. We’ll be there May 27-June 7 so we hope it’s not too much for the OP and some of the others who are negative toward us as visitors

It’s too bad you are the anomaly. The main issue is of course STRs (short term rentals) that rent for under 31 days. I understand you do (ie. 11 days). It isn’t about hostility, it’s about following community standards for those of us who have made the jump to maintaining a full time household down here. Perhaps when you sink money into your permanent retirement address, pay almost 10k in property taxes, and cover all other bills, you may think differently about the revolving door next to your new home? There is the Brownwood hotel etc. Of course, STRs will cut into the bottom line of the new Villages hotel in Middleton. This could forward some decision enforcement also? Every bit will help.

dewilson58 04-16-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CandJ (Post 2208030)
So we have rented over 30 times in TV because I am still working but can’t afford to have 2 homes.

More and more on here I’m seeing posts that are very unwelcoming to visitors and even renters or owners who don’t live there full-time.

You are more than welcome in TV.
A majority of the full-timers love snows and monthly renters and short-term renters.
There is always a handful of whiners on this site.

There are a few "bad" renters, but that does not label all renters.

Keep coming, Keep enjoying, the whiners are not normal.......jus one normal. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 04-16-2023 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcicales (Post 2207997)
Just a question- did you ever rent prior to buying? I’m guessing 80% or more do.
We did for years!!!!! You cannot control what has been going on for years!!!! and adds so much money to the community as well. I understand the AIRBNB is a bit out of hand but that’s up to the family to change- correct?

Who is the family?

Bogie Shooter 04-16-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2208046)
You are more than welcome in TV.
A majority of the full-timers love snows and monthly renters and short-term renters.
There is always a handful of whiners on this site.

There are a few "bad" renters, but that does not label all renters.

Keep coming, Keep enjoying, the whiners are not normal.......jus one normal. :1rotfl::1rotfl:

I second that.😎

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-16-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Raywatkins (Post 2207870)
Interesting to see differing views.
One point that is missed is that the state gets 7% of all rentals. Each county can raise additional tax. Sumter charged 2% until a couple of years ago.
I’m guessing Sumter are making enough not to need the money - probably through the Villages expanding.
I don’t see the state giving up this revenue stream. If it did where would they claw it back?
Taking the earlier response at face value, if a moderate number of the 1400 rental homes were to go on the market, house prices would presumably fall. I leave others to decide if that would be greater or smaller than the presence of renters.
Again, if true, there are areas where in the southern part of TV, there has been much speculation, based on rising house prices and rentals.
If this were to stop, where would the developer be? Would they support the stopping of rentals? Again you decide.
Interesting, there have been several past quotes regarding bad neighbours. Not snowbirds or short term renters, full time residents. It’s not what basis you are there it’s about personal behaviour. We then get into all the various threads about other forms of poor manners.
It’s great to have a moan - I know as a grumpy old man. My grandkids even bought me the tee shirt!!

You are incorrect. The 6% (not 7%) is collected by the state ONLY if the landlord tells the government that he's a landlord, and renting his property. If he doesn't tell them, then he gets away with not paying the tax. There is also a 1% county tourism tax for both Sumter and Lake Counties. Marion county rentals incur a 4% county tourism tax, making the total a 10% tax paid by the landlord to the state/county.

It also applies only to short-term rentals of less than 6 months. There are exceptions but none of them apply in the Villages (military personnel on active duty, for instance).


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