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oldtimes 04-17-2023 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Miekies (Post 2208259)
Curious how 1 rental on the street is very disruptive to the street. What is happening that is causing so many problems?

It’s a Villa neighborhood. The houses are very close there are easement issues and no parking. I am done arguing about it. Obviously it is a non issue for anyone who has not yet been affected.

Dantes 04-17-2023 08:16 AM

Lawsuit

Velvet 04-17-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2208274)
It’s a Villa neighborhood. The houses are very close there are easement issues and no parking. I am done arguing about it. Obviously it is a non issue for anyone who has not yet been affected.

They are just trying to a) play ignorant about the issue, or b) justifying it.

GizmoWhiskers 04-17-2023 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2208274)
It’s a Villa neighborhood. The houses are very close there are easement issues and no parking. I am done arguing about it. Obviously it is a non issue for anyone who has not yet been affected.

100% percent correct. In an organized, "selfishless" society, one person's rights end where another person's rights begin.

Philipd411 04-17-2023 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2207642)
Have steps been taken to move forward an agenda to limit short term rentals in Sumter County or the residential neighborhoods of the Villages?

Air BnBs and VRBOs have inundated the housing community of The Villages, Florida. Currently there are 1,200 units utilized in this capacity. Two and three day temporary renters come and go in otherwise quiet neighborhoods degrading property values and use facilities that others pay for monthly and for the longer haul in expenses.


Sumter County should mirror nearby Clearwater Beach guidelines for renting. The city does not allow short-term rentals in residentially zoned districts. This means that residential property owners cannot lease or rent out their properties for less than 31 days or one calendar month. While residential properties can be advertised as monthly rentals, they cannot be advertised for daily or weekly rentals.


Residents involved pay amenities and additional long term costs to live in a gated community atmosphere for two person occupancy.

Are there petitions? Is county government involved yet? If not, does anyone have ideas to move the county forward towards compliance of the majority of voters needs?

I don't think this is as big of an issue as you have made it out to be.

1,200 homes out of 80,000 is an insignificant number.

Cybersprings 04-17-2023 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2208043)
It’s too bad you are the anomaly. The main issue is of course STRs (short term rentals) that rent for under 31 days. I understand you do (ie. 11 days). It isn’t about hostility, it’s about following community standards for those of us who have made the jump to maintaining a full time household down here.

I am just curious, do you think it is in the DNA of someone who would rent for 30 days and not 31 that makes them so noisy and inconsiderate? Or do you think someone who normally rents for 31 days or more just behaves differently when they rent in February for only 28 days?

Cybersprings 04-17-2023 10:59 AM

Along the same lines of any progress in this area, does anyone know if there has been any progress in outlawing dogs in the squares so that my experience for entertainment and the farmers market would be better? Or not allowing dogs to live in the villages? I was promised a heavenly lifestyle in the villages, and it is greatly reduced by having dogs at the table next to me at the restaurants, or barking at the other dogs at the square, or doing their business on the sidewalk and being left there by the owner (brownwood about 3 weeks ago) or the permanent resident next to me who allows their dog out without a leash to do his business in the circle landscaping in front of our house or sometimes in my yard. My experience is greatly reduced by knowing that every place I walk in the grass or stand off the sidewalk at the square to let people pass by me that I am standing in a dog latrine. I hate knowing that everytime I go to the grocery store and put food in my cart that there is a good chance that someone has had their dog in it just before me. Or has there been any progress on outlawing the year round residents who go to the adult pools and talk so loudly with others non-stop for hours while I am just trying to relax at the pool and I really don't care about all the stuff they are telling someone else loudly? Or has there been any progress on outlawing year-round residents from having parties at their house (but only those I am not invited to) where they are loudly enjoying themselves outside and cars are parked in front of my house . On a similar note, does someone know if it is cheaper or easier to replace a sprinkler head broken by a year round resident who parked on my lawn at the party of another year round resident than those that are broken by a short term renter? Thanks for any info you have on the progress made in the areas that lower my home experience in the villages (and reduce demand by others who don't want to experience them) because of year round residents.

dewilson58 04-17-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2208387)
Along the same lines of any progress in this area, does anyone know if there has been any progress in outlawing dogs in the squares so that my experience for entertainment and the farmers market would be better? Or not allowing dogs to live in the villages? I was promised a heavenly lifestyle in the villages, and it is greatly reduced by having dogs at the table next to me at the restaurants, or barking at the other dogs at the square, or doing their business on the sidewalk and being left there by the owner (brownwood about 3 weeks ago) or the permanent resident next to me who allows their dog out without a leash to do his business in the circle landscaping in front of our house or sometimes in my yard. My experience is greatly reduced by knowing that every place I walk in the grass or stand off the sidewalk at the square to let people pass by me that I am standing in a dog latrine. I hate knowing that everytime I go to the grocery store and put food in my cart that there is a good chance that someone has had their dog in it just before me. Or has there been any progress on outlawing the year round residents who go to the adult pools and talk so loudly with others non-stop for hours while I am just trying to relax at the pool and I really don't care about all the stuff they are telling someone else loudly? Or has there been any progress on outlawing year-round residents from having parties at their house (but only those I am not invited to) where they are loudly enjoying themselves outside and cars are parked in front of my house . On a similar note, does someone know if it is cheaper or easier to replace a sprinkler head broken by a year round resident who parked on my lawn at the party of another year round resident than those that are broken by a short term renter? Thanks for any info you have on the progress made in the areas that lower my home experience in the villages (and reduce demand by others who don't want to experience them) because of year round residents.

Looks you have a lot of issues / questions unrelated to rentals and should start many, many, many new threads.

:BigApplause:

Velvet 04-17-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2208379)
I don't think this is as big of an issue as you have made it out to be.

1,200 homes out of 80,000 is an insignificant number.

It was sure NOT insignificant when several days in a row I could not get even a chair in my neighborhood pool because of the number of people under 40 crowding everyone out!

Velvet 04-17-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2208397)
Looks you have a lot of issues / questions unrelated to rentals and should start many, many, many new threads.

:BigApplause:

Yes, this issue of renters is a thorn in the side - don’t expect (not you personally) to be able to sweep it under the rug (with fly by your pants numbers).

Bill14564 04-17-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208401)
It was sure NOT insignificant when several days in a row I could not get even a chair in my neighborhood pool because of the number of people under 40 crowding everyone out!

Neighborhood pool meaning adult pool where under 30 is not allowed?

You can ID someone as being between 30 and 40? Did you call anyone to suggest there were people using the pool who did not have Villages IDs or Guest Passes?

Velvet 04-17-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2208405)
Neighborhood pool meaning adult pool where under 30 is not allowed?

You can ID someone as being between 30 and 40? Did you call anyone to suggest there were people using the pool who did not have Villages IDs or Guest Passes?

Yeah, More or less I can. I taught grad school for a time. But does it matter really if they were 40 or 41? Or even 42? Huh? The thing is you’re trying to turn the topic away from the fact that the pools are not made to handle such an influx of numbers and they never had to in the past. So what’s changed? I regularly talk to people in the pool - there were several times - when I could get in, I was the ONLY resident.

Philipd411 04-17-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2208401)
It was sure NOT insignificant when several days in a row I could not get even a chair in my neighborhood pool because of the number of people under 40 crowding everyone out!

So these 1200 houses must be just in your area they prevent you from getting a chair at your pool. I am betting they were kids or grandkids visiting for spring break.

But the only people I could see renting for a few days or up to a week or two are people visiting residents here in the villages. Most tourist destinations are an hour or two away. Who would come here to just be around old people? My 32-year-old son has come to visit and stayed for a week or two at times. My 42-year-old son, wife, and 2 kids have not. But we have a three bed room house so they could if they wanted to visit. it is just easier for us to go there.

Normal 04-17-2023 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2208379)
I don't think this is as big of an issue as you have made it out to be.

1,200 homes out of 80,000 is an insignificant number.

It’s not a big issue, because revolving hotel room renters in your neighborhood have parked next to you YET. I’m sure it’s what you paid for…..

NOT

Rainger99 04-17-2023 01:00 PM

What is the worst example of bad behavior by the STR crowd?

We have several STRs in my area and I have never had a problem. Most of them are decent, quiet people who can't afford to stay in a hotel at Disney World. They usually leave early in the morning and come home in the evening.

If it were all spring breakers going to Daytona Beach or college kids having a bachelor's party, it would be a different crowd and I can imagine there would be problems.


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