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retiredguy123 08-14-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2245301)
Even the manager has a boss. I wonder if his hands may be tied more than we realize. Or maybe not.

FYI, here is the official Publix policy from their corporate, Publix.com website:

"Publix permits service animals in the areas of its premises that are open to the public.

A service animal is a dog or miniature horse that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks to assist an individual with a disability. Dogs, miniature horses, or other animals that provide only emotional support, comfort, or companionship are not considered service animals.

A service animal must be under the control of its handler. A service animal must have a harness, leash, or other tether, unless the handler is either unable to use the same because of a disability, or the use of the same would interfere with the service animal’s safe, effective performance of work or tasks. In such case, the service animal must otherwise be under the handler’s control, such as through voice commands, signals, or other effective means.

We ask that non-service animals be removed from the premises. We also ask that service animals that are out of control, pose a threat to health or safety, or are not housebroken be removed from the premises. The individual may continue to shop at the store without the animal. Publix will gladly provide personal shopping assistance to such an individual upon request.

All service animals are prohibited from being carried in a Publix shopping cart (even on a mat) or in Publix wheelchair basket attachments."

Stu from NYC 08-14-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2245308)
FYI, here is the official Publix policy from their corporate, Publix.com website:

"Publix permits service animals in the areas of its premises that are open to the public.

A service animal is a dog or miniature horse that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks to assist an individual with a disability. Dogs, miniature horses, or other animals that provide only emotional support, comfort, or companionship are not considered service animals.

A service animal must be under the control of its handler. A service animal must have a harness, leash, or other tether, unless the handler is either unable to use the same because of a disability, or the use of the same would interfere with the service animal’s safe, effective performance of work or tasks. In such case, the service animal must otherwise be under the handler’s control, such as through voice commands, signals, or other effective means.

We ask that non-service animals be removed from the premises. We also ask that service animals that are out of control, pose a threat to health or safety, or are not housebroken be removed from the premises. The individual may continue to shop at the store without the animal. Publix will gladly provide personal shopping assistance to such an individual upon request.

All service animals are prohibited from being carried in a Publix shopping cart (even on a mat) or in Publix wheelchair basket attachments."

Is a miniature horse a quarter horse? Asking for a friend.

Wonder if Publix generally follows these guidelines.

Byte1 08-14-2023 02:49 PM

Love dogs. NO, dogs should not be anywhere near where there is food. That said, I do believe that a seeing eye dog should be allowed for those that are blind. ONLY for those that are sight impaired that require a seeing eye dog to maintain mobility. NO DOGS in grocery stores.

coffeebean 08-14-2023 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

NO, with the exception of genuine service dogs. Please.....no dogs in the grocery carts without anything to protect the cart. That is just skeevy without cart protection.

coffeebean 08-14-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2244999)
No! Niet! Definitely not.
Service dogs only, and the law should be changed that those animals are fully certified, and proof should be shown on request of management.
But it will never be, because the poor 'bleeding hearts' will be so offended if their 'fur babies' are excluded.

Please, please keep the fur babies at home when you go to the grocery store.

coffeebean 08-14-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2244999)
No! Niet! Definitely not.
Service dogs only, and the law should be changed that those animals are fully certified, and proof should be shown on request of management.
But it will never be, because the poor 'bleeding hearts' will be so offended if their 'fur babies' are excluded.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

The issues most folks have is not with genuine service animals. The issues are with FiFi and Fido who squat and pee and poop in the aisles of the grocery store. Big difference.

LuvNH 08-14-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245302)
Speaking of Rude: Not nice to call Older Citizens, "Crazy Rude Old People."
So, "Toilet Paper" is what you continue to think of from the pandemic. :coolsmiley:

What would you like me to call crazy rude old people fighting at Publix front door to get in for toilet paper? I am open to suggestion. As for toilet paper and pandemic, if you recall we were extremely fortunate in TV with the pandemic. Outside the bubble, not so much.

I'm Popeye! 08-14-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2245305)
Toilet paper, beef, canned tuna, and a few others. I didn’t read that as a criticism of all older citizens, I read it as calling out the subset that can accurately be described as crazy rude older people.

So, Who is to say I am or You are...

Bill14564 08-14-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245351)
So, Who is to say I am or You are...

Pretty sure I'm safe from Crazy but I'm definitely a People. I'm beginning to accept Older though I'm on the young side of those north of 44. Rude... for the most part I consider the source, but sometimes things just happen.

LuvNH 08-14-2023 04:22 PM

I now need to apologize to the nice people on this thread who posted about dogs in stores. I am sorry ....................

eyc234 08-14-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?


NO!!!

dhdallas 08-14-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Dogs do not belong in grocery stores, restaurants, the squares, at parties, and when visiting someone else's home.

They are not your children (no matter what you think) and there are plenty of people who do not like dogs. They are smelly, needy creatures that shed, carry fleas, slobber, have worms, and drag their butt on the carpet. Don't even get me started about the barking.

Owners of purebred dogs are really offensive. If they really cared about dogs they'd get a rescue animal or a mutt from the local dog pound (and not a puppy mill). Instead, the vain purebred owners are too snobbish to have a mixed breed animal, wanting to show off their expensive animal everywhere they go. Leave your animal where it belongs; at home!

JMintzer 08-14-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2245284)
Well, i tend to pass on by the questions posed here that I dont find thought provoking. But thats just me i guess.....
Personally, keep your dirty creatures out of the food store. The manager needs to man up and tell the miscreant they arent welcome in the store with their mangy mutt. Or let them do their shopping and refuse to check them out. Let them waste an hour of their time.

So... You passed on commenting the last time this was posted just a few days ago (and the what is it now, dozens of time before that?) But you see fit to post now?

And by insulting people, you expect what in response?

JMintzer 08-14-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245297)
Just admit it, JM, you hate these types of dog threads; why? Because you disagree with the majority...

Nope. I don't believe dogs need to be taken into grocery stores...

I never suggested that they should... But nice try!

Topspinmo 08-14-2023 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2245284)
Well, i tend to pass on by the questions posed here that I dont find thought provoking. But thats just me i guess.....
Personally, keep your dirty creatures out of the food store. The manager needs to man up and tell the miscreant they arent welcome in the store with their mangy mutt. Or let them do their shopping and refuse to check them out. Let them waste an hour of their time.

Do you feel alright? Your wording sounds like you might be having stroke or something.

Topspinmo 08-14-2023 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245351)
So, Who is to say I am or You are...

Me, I’m great judgement of people. :pepper2:

Dotneko 08-14-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2245376)
Do you feel alright? Your wording sounds like you might be having stroke or something.

Why, thank you for checking on me! My words appear to track just fine, though, so I think I am good. And you appear to have regained your mastery of the English language too! Good news all around. Seriously you were uncharacteristically butchering your sentences - forgive me for being concerned. It wont happen again.

Dotneko 08-14-2023 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2245378)
Me, I’m great judgement of people. :pepper2:

LOL I stand corrected. Back to butchering.

Dotneko 08-14-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2245374)
So... You passed on commenting the last time this was posted just a few days ago (and the what is it now, dozens of time before that?) But you see fit to post now?

And by insulting people, you expect what in response?

Ive been busy. There are some days I dont even post here - imagine that!
And your original comment about this thread wasnt meant as an insult? Pot, meet kettle.

Garywt 08-14-2023 07:18 PM

I say no dogs in grocery stores, restaurants (inside or out) and any other stores including Home Depot and Lowes. Dogs should be left home if you plan any type of shopping.

Fredster 08-14-2023 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

No….I don’t believe dogs should be brought
to grocery stores!

dnobles 08-14-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2245040)
Why is it necessary for a dog to be brought in a store around other people's food? What good would a service dog even provide while in a grocery store? Sorry but unless you are blind I don't get it.

You should read Doctor Dogs by Maria Goodavage. Dogs are trained to detect diabetic attacks and epileptic seizures to name only 2.

JMintzer 08-14-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2245401)
Ive been busy. There are some days I dont even post here - imagine that!
And your original comment about this thread wasnt meant as an insult? Pot, meet kettle.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Riiight... My post, commenting on starting a new thread when a thread EXACTLY like it was closed just a day or two ago is the same as your's stating this:

"Personally, keep your dirty creatures out of the food store. The manager needs to man up and tell the miscreant they arent welcome in the store with their mangy mutt."

Nice rationalization...

Topspinmo 08-14-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dnobles (Post 2245426)
You should read Doctor Dogs by Maria Goodavage. Dogs are trained to detect diabetic attacks and epileptic seizures to name only 2.


So.

Topspinmo 08-14-2023 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=Dotneko;2245399]Why, thank you for checking on me! My words appear to track just fine, though, so I think I am good. And you appear to have regained your mastery of the English language too! Good news all around. Seriously you were uncharacteristically butchering your sentences - forgive me for being concerned. It wont happen again.[/

I rest my case.

fdpaq0580 08-14-2023 10:57 PM

My sympathy to those who truly have no choice but to rely solely upon dogs, but other than truly professionals trained medically certified service dogs should not be allowed in grocery stores or restaurants. Imho.

Lyarham 08-15-2023 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

No dogs in grocery stores or restaurants

gbs317 08-15-2023 04:27 AM

Keep the dogs home. They are probably thinking to themselves “ … finally some peace and quiet.”

donfey 08-15-2023 05:10 AM

NO!

PersonOfInterest 08-15-2023 05:17 AM

Supposedly there are laws that prohibit animals in places where food is sold or prepared. There are also laws that require such businesses to allow service animals. I would think that management could approach someone trying to bring an animal / pet into their business and ask them to remove the animal or they will call the police to have them removed.

Why is there reluctance to involve law enforcement?

snorkey1 08-15-2023 05:26 AM

Pet smart only!!!

Life as I know it 08-15-2023 05:29 AM

No cart. Our food goes there.

GoneFishing 08-15-2023 05:29 AM

No!!!

swooner 08-15-2023 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

NO!

birdawg 08-15-2023 05:42 AM

Some countries you can find them in the frozen food section

retiredguy123 08-15-2023 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2245472)
Supposedly there are laws that prohibit animals in places where food is sold or prepared. There are also laws that require such businesses to allow service animals. I would think that management could approach someone trying to bring an animal / pet into their business and ask them to remove the animal or they will call the police to have them removed.

Why is there reluctance to involve law enforcement?

Publix has an official corporate policy about dogs in their stores. See Post No. 41. It seems to me that the store can refuse service to anyone who violates their policy by just refusing to check them out. I don't see any need to involve law enforcement.

samquiros 08-15-2023 05:43 AM

A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

dnobles 08-15-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2245325)
Love dogs. NO, dogs should not be anywhere near where there is food. That said, I do believe that a seeing eye dog should be allowed for those that are blind. ONLY for those that are sight impaired that require a seeing eye dog to maintain mobility. NO DOGS in grocery stores.

So someone who needs a dog that can detect an on coming seizure or diabetic attack must stay home right

wsachs 08-15-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

NO. Real service dogs YES.

retiredguy123 08-15-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245487)
A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

Publix doesn't have any rules against service animals, but they do have a very detailed policy about dogs in their stores. See Post No. 41. A Publix manager should be able to enforce their own company policy, which is not in conflict with the ADA law.


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