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Drakeswood 08-15-2023 05:54 AM

Absolutely not!
Think about where your dog’s snout goes when out for a walk or around other pets…Yep, right sniffing the anus of other dogs or urine or feces. And we want our unpackaged fruit & veggies in the same location these animals have sat or licked? E. Coli is not healthy nor are dander and fur. Furthermore, what about folks with allergies? Price an epi pen…
Common sense is just not common!

Caymus 08-15-2023 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dnobles (Post 2245489)
So someone who needs a dog that can detect an on coming seizure or diabetic attack must stay home right

What do they do in almost every other city, county and town where health codes are enforced? I visited food stores thousands of times in other states and only encountered dogs twice. Both times they were obviously service dogs.

They do it where they can get away with it.

sdm1222 08-15-2023 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2245432)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Riiight... My post, commenting on starting a new thread when a thread EXACTLY like it was closed just a day or two ago is the same as your's stating this:

"Personally, keep your dirty creatures out of the food store. The manager needs to man up and tell the miscreant they arent welcome in the store with their mangy mutt."

Nice rationalization...

And you also replied 50 times!

banjobob 08-15-2023 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

A resounding NO leave the pets at home,grocery, restaurants, town squares .

ThirdOfFive 08-15-2023 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2245308)
FYI, here is the official Publix policy from their corporate, Publix.com website:

"Publix permits service animals in the areas of its premises that are open to the public.

A service animal is a dog or miniature horse that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks to assist an individual with a disability. Dogs, miniature horses, or other animals that provide only emotional support, comfort, or companionship are not considered service animals.

A service animal must be under the control of its handler. A service animal must have a harness, leash, or other tether, unless the handler is either unable to use the same because of a disability, or the use of the same would interfere with the service animal’s safe, effective performance of work or tasks. In such case, the service animal must otherwise be under the handler’s control, such as through voice commands, signals, or other effective means.

We ask that non-service animals be removed from the premises. We also ask that service animals that are out of control, pose a threat to health or safety, or are not housebroken be removed from the premises. The individual may continue to shop at the store without the animal. Publix will gladly provide personal shopping assistance to such an individual upon request.

All service animals are prohibited from being carried in a Publix shopping cart (even on a mat) or in Publix wheelchair basket attachments."

Drat! Does that mean that I can no longer bring Spike (my emotional support monitor lizard) into Publix when I shop there?

OhioBuckeye 08-15-2023 06:39 AM

Love dogs, but don’t think any kind of animal should be allowed in any store that has food.I think it would only hurt business! Dogs won’t know the difference or dislike you if you don’t take them there.

garykoca427@gmail.com 08-15-2023 06:39 AM

I agree with the majority. Only service dogs.

MandoMan 08-15-2023 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2244988)
Just "service dogs" that have been vetted in some manner. I am not even sure what a "service dog" is when taking into account the pooches I have seen in some places in the Villages.

Allow highly-trained dogs that serve the blind. Not fake “emotional support animals.” Of course, if a blind person counts on a guide dog for grocery shopping, perhaps they will return home with lots of fresh mean and fish and sacks of dog food. (Joking)

Lindaws 08-15-2023 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Absolutely NOT. Never allowed years ago, Why now?

BBBnWitty 08-15-2023 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2244987)
No, other than service dogs, (aren’t they all service dogs?) they shouldn’t be allowed in a place that sells food. I love dogs, but not where I go for food.

I too love dogs, but not where I go for food. But since many stores deliver food now, why does anyone need to bring a dog, even service dogs, to a grocery store?

midiwiz 08-15-2023 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2245057)
It's ok that you don't get it. The right people do.

just exactly WHO are "The Right People"???? I'd like to know what you are inferring here. Are you saying that if we don't agree with the tree huggers we are wrong? Are you saying that if we don't agree with you we are wrong?

Spell it out!

As a side note - in many places across the US and Europe, dogs (and cats) are not allowed in establishments that have fresh food. Which includes markets, grocery stores, butcher shops, etc. Now if you want bats contaminating your fresh items I'm sure we can oblige. I think for the most part you'll find this is policy/law/etc.

They just don't belong there period the end.

Bay Kid 08-15-2023 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

Not very many, if hardly any, of these dogs/people. This discussion is for the privileged dog owners that have no respect for others. I see dogs with their nose up other dogs rear, eating rabbit pellets, etc. They shouldn't be around other peoples food.

Hmckinn 08-15-2023 06:53 AM

No way
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

No. They should never be allow where there is food sold.

midiwiz 08-15-2023 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2245347)
What would you like me to call crazy rude old people fighting at Publix front door to get in for toilet paper? I am open to suggestion. As for toilet paper and pandemic, if you recall we were extremely fortunate in TV with the pandemic. Outside the bubble, not so much.

we were 'outside the bubble' and had zero issues, the only ones with issues were those that demanded things that we ignored...such as masks.

LuvNH 08-15-2023 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2245504)
What do they do in almost every other city, county and town where health codes are enforced? I visited food stores thousands of times in other states and only encountered dogs twice. Both times they were obviously service dogs.

They do it where they can get away with it.

This is an excellent point. We have traveled extensively and have NEVER seen a dog in a store serving or selling food. ONLY IN THE VILLAGES.

Rainger99 08-15-2023 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2245228)
Especially since the other ground hog day thread was closed...

When I clicked on this thread, I thought it was the other thread!!! Took me a few minutes to realize that it was a new one!

Goodwingle 08-15-2023 07:03 AM

No pets in grocery store carts
 
No! "Real" Service Dogs yes but only on a leash walking on the floor. Please dear lord do not put a dog or "any" pet in a shopping cart where I put my actual groceries!

virtue51 08-15-2023 07:12 AM

NO!!! If an individual cannot leave the dog home, then they should have their groceries delivered.

Aulicino 08-15-2023 07:12 AM

Dogs in grocery stores
 
No, I have had dogs my whole life and have never brought them shopping with me. It disgusts me to see a dog sitting in a shopping cart where my merchandise would be. Just ignorant owners.

nordic tug 08-15-2023 07:18 AM

The owner and the dog belong in the barn.

cwhitecat 08-15-2023 07:24 AM

I don’t want to put my produce in a cart that a dog has been riding in.

Bilyclub 08-15-2023 07:26 AM

Hell no. It's against most health codes.

Steve 08-15-2023 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2245010)
Of course they should be allowed, accompanied by a person, on a leash, or well trained, or in a cart.

Well, that's a reversal. The dog has the person on a leash, well trained or in a cart!

Steve 08-15-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2245533)
This is an excellent point. We have traveled extensively and have NEVER seen a dog in a store serving or selling food. ONLY IN THE VILLAGES.

I, too, have never seen a dog serving or selling food in a store...or anywhere for that matter.

MSGirl 08-15-2023 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Regarding Publix at Magnolia Plaza, there was a woman in that store yesterday with her little white dog. So, I’m guessing the signs mean nothing. A dog, unless a seeing eye dog, should not be allowed in stores and in the grocery cart, where many sit

Blackbird45 08-15-2023 07:30 AM

I believe dogs have every right to be in supermarkets as long as they know how to push a shopping cart and are not accompanied by their master.

Steve 08-15-2023 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245487)
A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

I think some people are confusing "Service Dogs" and "Therapy Dogs". I think the "Therapy Dog" thing is being abused.

JGibson 08-15-2023 07:32 AM

If you read the ingredients in most of the foods these days like Bio-Engineered food ingredients a dog is the last thing you would have to worry about.

Meanwhile restaurants around TV are getting all types of violations for roaches, rats and improperly temperature controlled food storage.

If you ever worked in a kitchen of a restaurant you may never eat out again.

But yeah, dogs lol.

JGibson 08-15-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2245562)
I think some people are confusing "Service Dogs" and "Therapy Dogs". I think the "Therapy Dog" thing is being abused.

Airlines allow therapy animals and granted its supposed to stay in crate but there is many times food is being served.

Maybe if the Airlines didn't charge $200 for an animal folks wouldn't abuse it.

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2245356)
Pretty sure I'm safe from Crazy but I'm definitely a People. I'm beginning to accept Older though I'm on the young side of those north of 44. Rude... for the most part I consider the source, but sometimes things just happen.

Not saying that you are, but,
Mr. Bill, did you know that not even the NUT-CASE knows they are nuts... :jester:

Bill14564 08-15-2023 07:42 AM

No, other than service animals, there should be no dogs (cats, mice, horses, peacocks) in a grocery store. That's the easy part.

The hard part is, what would you have the store do? Don't say, "keep them out," explain how the store manager should do that.

Should they have security at the front of the store? What would the security do? Should they block the path of anyone attempting to enter with a pet? Should they take people by the arm and physically remove them from the store? Should they call the police and have customers arrested? Knowing that whatever they do will wind up on the front page of the paper, how should they treat their pet-owning customers?

Canada friends 08-15-2023 07:46 AM

Totally agree 100% leave the dogs at home…..

retiredguy123 08-15-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2245573)
No, other than service animals, there should be no dogs (cats, mice, horses, peacocks) in a grocery store. That's the easy part.

The hard part is, what would you have the store do? Don't say, "keep them out," explain how the store manager should do that.

Should they have security at the front of the store? What would the security do? Should they block the path of anyone attempting to enter with a pet? Should they take people by the arm and physically remove them from the store? Should they call the police and have customers arrested? Knowing that whatever they do will wind up on the front page of the paper, how should they treat their pet-owning customers?

They should warn them at the front door or in the store that they will not be able to check out at the register.

Cindysum90 08-15-2023 07:48 AM

No - the FDA prohibits them. It’s disgusting and I’m glad Publix put up a sign. I hope they adhere to it!

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2245375)
Nope. I don't believe dogs need to be taken into grocery stores...

I never suggested that they should... But nice try!

You seem to jump on those that say "NO".. To me, meaning you think they should allow the stinky mongrel to lick the oranges...
Just check every one of your posts on this thread, it proves my point and it seems that way with every topic... Relax my friend you seem like a lovely person at times. :highfive:

Two Bills 08-15-2023 08:04 AM

When I was a whole lot younger, any dog of ours that came shopping with us, was just tied to hooks in the wall outside of shop, that were put there specifically for that purpose.
Dogs never entered a shop, and the store owners were not shy of telling you to get out if you brought your mutt in.
But dogs then, were lean, mean, happy, and knew their place, unlike the fur babies of today, who seem to be in charge of their owners..

Whole world has gone to the dogs!

airstreamingypsy 08-15-2023 08:09 AM

What difference does what we think make? Only service dogs are legally allowed in grocery stores. No fake service dogs, no emotional support dogs..... real honest to god trained for service dogs. I don't understand the point of this question.

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2245486)
Publix has an official corporate policy about dogs in their stores. See Post No. 41. It seems to me that the store can refuse service to anyone who violates their policy by just refusing to check them out. I don't see any need to involve law enforcement.

Thanks retiredguy,
Not just posted on the Publics website, undecided: SHOULD BE POSTED on every door entering the store!
Here it is again:

Regorp 08-15-2023 08:10 AM

Dogs
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

NO!!

kendi 08-15-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2245010)
Of course they should be allowed, accompanied by a person, on a leash, or well trained, or in a cart.

Problem is they have to say no to all or yes to all. (Except service dogs of course) Can’t sort out the good from the not so good.


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