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GATORBILL66 08-15-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Anytime I see any animal in a shopping cart, I walk out of the store.

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245487)
A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

I can't find it, but maybe YOU can tell us, when was this NEW meaning of SERVICE Aminals was put into practice?

jimkerr 08-15-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

I have an amazing dog but she sure as heck doesn’t belong in a grocery store! There are a lot of ignorant people that think their dog should be able to go with them anywhere though.

The best is those people that buy the fake service dog vests and cards from Amazon. Real service dog vests can’t be purchased from Amazon.

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakeswood (Post 2245495)
Absolutely not!
Think about where your dog’s snout goes when out for a walk or around other pets…Yep, right sniffing the anus of other dogs or urine or feces. And we want our unpackaged fruit & veggies in the same location these animals have sat or licked? E. Coli is not healthy nor are dander and fur. Furthermore, what about folks with allergies? Price an epi pen…
Common sense is just not common!

I approve of this message, thank you Drakeswood.. :BigApplause:

Bill14564 08-15-2023 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2245606)
Anytime I see any animal in a shopping cart, I walk out of the store.

I hope you stop at the customer service desk to let them know why. Seriously. Either management does not know there is a problem or they are worried that correcting the problem (removing the animal) will cause them to lose a customer. They need to know they are losing customers by NOT correcting the problem.

I don't usually pay attention to what other customers are doing as long as they are not blocking my way. Perhaps I will start watching for animals and choose to leave if I see one.

cjrjck 08-15-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Sure. Why not? But dog owners need to know that the horse I ride into Publix doesn't like dogs sniffing around his backside. Never has.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sdm1222 (Post 2245507)
And you also replied 50 times!

So?

JMintzer 08-15-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2245533)
This is an excellent point. We have traveled extensively and have NEVER seen a dog in a store serving or selling food. ONLY IN THE VILLAGES.

You need to travel more...

And oddly, I've NEVER seen anyone with a dog in a grocery store in TV...

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2245532)
we were 'outside the bubble' and had zero issues, the only ones with issues were those that demanded things that we ignored...such as masks.

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I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2245556)
I, too, have never seen a dog serving or selling food in a store...or anywhere for that matter.

You need to get out more..... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2245563)
If you read the ingredients in most of the foods these days like Bio-Engineered food ingredients a dog is the last thing you would have to worry about.

Meanwhile restaurants around TV are getting all types of violations for roaches, rats and improperly temperature controlled food storage.

If you ever worked in a kitchen of a restaurant you may never eat out again.

But yeah, dogs lol.

So then, you're saying it's OK to pile poop on top of poop... :coolsmiley:

mags900 08-15-2023 09:07 AM

NO!!!!!!!!!

JMintzer 08-15-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245586)
You seem to jump on those that say "NO".. To me, meaning you think they should allow the stinky mongrel to lick the oranges...
Just check every one of your posts on this thread, it proves my point and it seems that way with every topic... Relax my friend you seem like a lovely person at times. :highfive:

I did no such thing. I only responded to the person who called people "miscreants" along with other insults...

Was that you?

tophcfa 08-15-2023 09:10 AM

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Only a real service dog like the beautiful girl pictured below. She is off harness in the picture and not working. When she is in harness she is a highly trained guid dog for the blind/visually impaired (she is my brothers third German Shepherd guide dog). She has gone through extensive training, including her first year being fostered by a loving family and then another full year of intestine training as a guide dog. Only a very certain type of dog has the temperament, skills, and physical strength to do the job. Many of the dogs don’t pass the test during training and either become police dogs or pets. She is my brothers eyes, goes everywhere with him, and allows him to live a full life with his handicap. His guide dogs have saved his life more than once by pulling him from traffic in downtown Boston.

People buying fake “service dog” vests on Amazon and taking advantage of ridiculously lax ADA laws should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. They are doing a discreet to truly handicapped individuals who rely on their dogs for their quality of life!

JMintzer 08-15-2023 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245586)
You seem to jump on those that say "NO".. To me, meaning you think they should allow the stinky mongrel to lick the oranges...
Just check every one of your posts on this thread, it proves my point and it seems that way with every topic... Relax my friend you seem like a lovely person at times. :highfive:

And I suggest you re-read this thread. I didn't "jump on anyone who said dogs don't belong in grocery stores". I actually agreed with them...

And I find it odd that you refer to the customers in grocery stores as "stinky mongrels"...

JMintzer 08-15-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2245576)
They should warn them at the front door or in the store that they will not be able to check out at the register.

And then the store will have to restock the items in their cart... Which usually means tossing out the fresh produce and meats...

Unfortunately, it's a lose/lose proposition for them...

snbrafford 08-15-2023 09:48 AM

No Dogs allowed
 
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

I think only service animals (and I question the need for some of those)in grocery stores, restaurants, or any stores. I don't hate dogs but don't want to be around their dander and fleas and have to worry about the dog's temperament.

mikeycereal 08-15-2023 10:06 AM

Back in the 80's when I worked at a grocery store we had a customer come in with a big labrador on a leash wearing a small vest. I was working on a checkout register and saw that the young bag girl nearest to me was enamored over seeing the dog. "Ohh..." she cooed and went over and bagged for that customer and when she walked back toward me I could tell she enjoyed the brief interaction. Back then it was rare... only dog that I remember seeing in the store for the 3 years I worked there. These days people freak out over everything, and I mean everything!

Johnsocat 08-15-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2244987)
No, other than service dogs, (aren’t they all service dogs?) they shouldn’t be allowed in a place that sells food. I love dogs, but not where I go for food.

Don't you have food and eat at home?

Arlene pugh 08-15-2023 10:13 AM

Parasites and dog butts on grocery carts sounds delicious. What’s on the blanket they put underneath. Why not put bare butted children in the cart??

Whitley 08-15-2023 10:13 AM

Only on Doggy Thursday and take your dog shopping Saturdays. Other than that, NO.

Gpsma 08-15-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2245676)
Only on Doggy Thursday and take your dog shopping Saturdays. Other than that, NO.

And why cant you leave your feces spewing, flea invested, butt licking mongrel at home…EVERY DAY?

jparsoneau@aol.com 08-15-2023 11:52 AM

Love dogs. But no dog should be next to anybody food or next to my food.
And as far as everybody complaining about a dog and a cart? What about all the dirty diapers that have been in that cart before you put your food in there? Just saying some thing to think about. As I no longer use the top of the cart where the babysit or the dog sit

Ray Greene 08-15-2023 11:52 AM

Dogs no welcome
 
Only leader dogs for the blind should be allowed. No others, not even other service dogs.
Of course pet elephants are always welcome!!!

VApeople 08-15-2023 12:18 PM

I was very pleased to see that our local Publix at Lake Deaton Plaza has a sign on the door stating that pets are not allowed in the store.

The next time I go there I will definitely thank the manager for instituting their new policy.

dnobles 08-15-2023 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Greene (Post 2245731)
Only leader dogs for the blind should be allowed. No others, not even other service dogs.
Of course pet elephants are always welcome!!!

So people that have dogs that detect for diabetics and seizures should not be allowed. Not all services dogs are for the blind. Read Doctor Dogs by Maria Goodavage

ThirdOfFive 08-15-2023 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2245711)
And why cant you leave your feces spewing, flea invested, butt licking mongrel at home…EVERY DAY?

Helluva way to talk about a man's wife...

wcsdanzer 08-15-2023 12:24 PM

Service Dog Description
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2244988)
Just "service dogs" that have been vetted in some manner. I am not even sure what a "service dog" is when taking into account the pooches I have seen in some places in the Villages.

A. Under the ADA, a service animal is defined as a dog that has been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for an individual with a disability. The task(s) performed by the dog must be directly related to the person’s disability.

Q3. Are emotional support, therapy, comfort, or companion animals considered service animals under the ADA?
A. No. These terms are used to describe animals that provide comfort just by being with a person. Because they have not been trained to perform a specific job or task, they do not qualify as service animals under the ADA. However, some State or local governments have laws that allow people to take emotional support animals into public places. You may check with your State and local government agencies to find out about these laws.

samquiros 08-15-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245612)
I can't find it, but maybe YOU can tell us, when was this NEW meaning of SERVICE Aminals was put into practice?

Last updated: February 28, 2020

almondz 08-15-2023 01:57 PM

Not a Dog Problem
 
Let's face it - it's not a dog problem - it's a people problem - just like so many other issues.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snbrafford (Post 2245662)
I think only service animals (and I question the need for some of those)in grocery stores, restaurants, or any stores. I don't hate dogs but don't want to be around their dander and fleas and have to worry about the dog's temperament.

After reading this (and the other) thread, I'm worried about other PEOPLE'S temperament...

Lea N 08-15-2023 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

I am currently without a pet, unfortunately. So when I get to see other people's dogs it makes my day. However, I believe that we have to respect those who have allergies to dogs and keep dogs home. The exception being a medical service dog for those who have medical needs or seeing eye dogs.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2245711)
And why cant you leave your feces spewing, flea invested, butt licking mongrel at home…EVERY DAY?

Looks like someone has lost their sense of humor...

Lea N 08-15-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

These incredible dogs provide a much needed service for those who truly need a medical service dog.

Guardian Angels Medical Service Dog's provide medical service dog's to individuals, with military and first responders being priority. They do not charge the recipient for the dog. It costs approximately $30K to teach one of these dogs. Typically they use German Shepherds, some (not all) of these dogs are rescue dogs that were hours away from being euthanized.

The work that these dogs do dramatically change the lives of people for the better. These dogs are well trained and will not go to the bathroom on the floor in stores or restaurants. When their person is at a restaurant they are so quiet and still that many people don't even know they are there.

Here is a link to Guardian Angels Medical Service Dogs. Guardian Angels Medical Service Dogs

Elaine Dickinson 08-15-2023 03:20 PM

The Food and Drug Administration's Food Guide lays down the law: with few exceptions, live animals of any kind are not permitted on the premises of a grocery store, a restaurant or other food establishment. The prohibition applies to dogs, cats, birds and other animals. Only service animals that are specifically trained to aid a person with disabilities are permitted within a store. Service animals are not permitted to sit or ride in shopping carts.

Stu4206 08-15-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2244986)
I read that the Publix at Magnolia Plaza has two large signs that says dogs are not allowed in their store.

Do you think dogs should be allowed in a grocery store?

Service dogs only!

Shimpy 08-15-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2245010)
Of course they should be allowed, accompanied by a person, on a leash, or well trained, or in a cart.


Dogs don't use toilet paper so where ever they set does the job for them including the grocery cart. This also includes your couch, bed, carpet etc.

JMintzer 08-15-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 2245850)
Dogs don't use toilet paper so where ever they set does the job for them including the grocery cart. This also includes your couch, bed, carpet etc.

Just over half of Americans wash their hands after using the bathroom, so there's that...

I'm Popeye! 08-15-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245487)
A lot of misinformation and misunderstandings on this thread. If you are interested in learning about service animals, why not go to the source? Service animals are governed by the American with Disabilities Act (ADA). If you review the ADA, and you disagree with it, blaming the Publix manager will not help. Write to your Congressperson.

Service Animals | ADA.gov

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2245612)
I can't find it, but maybe YOU can tell us, when was this NEW meaning of SERVICE Aminals was put into practice?

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Originally Posted by samquiros (Post 2245779)
Last updated: February 28, 2020

Thank you, I should have known (:ohdear: Feb. 2020 :rolleyes:)...

Vermilion Villager 08-15-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2245129)
There are dogs trained to sense seizures before they happen. Having one can help increase someone's independence. A flickering fluorescent light overhead in a supermarket can trigger an epileptic seizure in some people. A trained service dog would press against the owner's leg, warning him that something is about to happen so he can get down to the floor and prepare for it. A service dog would also bark to attract attention, so that his owner can get immediate help.

A PTSD service animal can sense an anxiety attack before it happens, and assist its owner in getting fresh air, or discouraging people from coming too close, or whatever else it's trained to do.

There are service animals who actually pull the wheelchairs of people who have limited use of their hands and legs.

People with mobility problems can use service animals who are trained to provide them with stability and pacing when standing, walking, and sitting back down.

There exist people with psychiatric issues, who can use service dogs to prevent or interrupt impulsive or potentially dangerous behaviors. The dogs are trained to know the signs of a triggering event.

There are others - but those are some examples.

All true examples of Service Dogs.
However.......the stupid little lunchbox size dog yipping and yapping in the shopping cart is not!!!:rant-rave:


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