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Quoted from The Village Sun, 6/30/2012 pg.C4

"Sinkholes displace two villages homeowners.

Two homeowners on Manor Downs in The Villages are currently displaced from their homes because of sinkhole activity, according to District Public Safety Department officials.

The two homes, in the 2800 block of Manor Downs, had extensive sinkhole damage underneath the homes , according to Lt. Gina Lambert.

The homes are in the Village of Belvedere.

Lambert said property insurance carriers for both homeowners were "responsive" in addressing the situation.

Two more lots in The Villages had sinkholes but Lambert said Friday those homes were not immediately threatened. One was on Plain Ridge Loop in the Village of Belvedere and other was on Edenville Path in the Village of St. Charles, Lambert said.

Smaller sinkholes were reported in other areas of The Villages, she said.

Sumter County Emergency Management Director David Casto said Friday he had verified information on 13 sinkholes of various sizes in northern Sumter county, including The Villages, Royal and Lake Panasoffkee.

Of the 13, 11 are confirmed in The Villages, Casto said.

Meanwhile, Sumter County's Public Works Department is working to repair sinkhole damage on Fenwick Loop in the Village of Sanibel and additional sinkholes were reported on Village Community Development Districts' property, such as golf courses and in retention ponds.

Sinkhole activity in Florida is common, according to the Florida Department of Environmental Affairs, and significant rainfall, such as the recent rainfall from Tropical Storm Debby can increase their likelihood."
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Sad to hear Graciegirl. Some of these Manor Downs homes do seem close to water, others not so close.
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That is still a very low risk factor in terms of 50,000+ homes.
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thanx for posting, gracie! also woke up this morning to a continuing 'boil water alert' here in jersey - due to a major, major water main break. gotta get dressed and go pick up some free bottled water! this one is gonna take a while to repair! glad i already bought some bottled wated last week before we really NEEDED it! mother nature is really pi**ed at someone! maybe we should just head for maine - temps are lower there by min 10 degrees!
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It is a very sad thing to hear, I can only imagine what the homeowners are going through. Thank you for posting the article. I'll be down to my home in Buttonwood on Tuesday, hope to find the neighborhood intact.
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thanx for posting, gracie! also woke up this morning to a continuing 'boil water alert' here in jersey - due to a major, major water main break. gotta get dressed and go pick up some free bottled water! this one is gonna take a while to repair! glad i already bought some bottled wated last week before we really NEEDED it! mother nature is really pi**ed at someone! maybe we should just head for maine - temps are lower there by min 10 degrees!
Mother Nature popped round here last night with a violent storm. My garage roof needs repair now.

She is TOed for sure.

Eastern US storms leave 2 dead, 2M without power *| ajc.com

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Mother Nature popped round here last night with a violent storm. My garage roof needs repair now.

She is TOed for sure.

Eastern US storms leave 2 dead, 2M without power *| ajc.com

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sorry for your trouble! same storm tore up south jersey BAD! hospital in atlantic city has no power, ergo - no air conditioning; operating on generator back-up and shuffling patients to cooled areas on an as needed basis!

storm just missed us last nite - a good thing. and yet, despite the local emergencies, the traffic is bumper to bumper on the pkwy and tpk with folks from north jersey tryin' to get here!
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Quoted from The Village Sun, 6/30/2012 pg.C4

"Sinkholes displace two villages homeowners.

Two homeowners on Manor Downs in The Villages are currently displaced from their homes because of sinkhole activity, according to District Public Safety Department officials.

The two homes, in the 2800 block of Manor Downs, had extensive sinkhole damage underneath the homes , according to Lt. Gina Lambert.

The homes are in the Village of Belvedere.

Lambert said property insurance carriers for both homeowners were "responsive" in addressing the situation.

Two more lots in The Villages had sinkholes but Lambert said Friday those homes were not immediately threatened. One was on Plain Ridge Loop in the Village of Belvedere and other was on Edenville Path in the Village of St. Charles, Lambert said.

Smaller sinkholes were reported in other areas of The Villages, she said.

Sumter County Emergency Management Director David Casto said Friday he had verified information on 13 sinkholes of various sizes in northern Sumter county, including The Villages, Royal and Lake Panasoffkee.

Of the 13, 11 are confirmed in The Villages, Casto said.

Meanwhile, Sumter County's Public Works Department is working to repair sinkhole damage on Fenwick Loop in the Village of Sanibel and additional sinkholes were reported on Village Community Development Districts' property, such as golf courses and in retention ponds.

Sinkhole activity in Florida is common, according to the Florida Department of Environmental Affairs, and significant rainfall, such as the recent rainfall from Tropical Storm Debby can increase their likelihood."
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I hope I am wrong, but I believe that when sinkholes affect homes in a certain area, then homes in the immediate area surrounding the sinkhole activity will be red flagged & home owners insurance can be increased or become a problem. Also, any resale homes in that same area must disclose sinkhole activity close by. What I don't know is the radius this incompasses.
Perhaps someone on this forum has that answer and is willing to share the information.

Please correct me if I am worng.

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Betty in short not correct according to this lawyers site.

This question crosses two separate categories, one involving the sinkhole laws, and one associated with the sale of residential real estate. Under the sinkhole law, specifically, Section 627.7073(2)(b), Florida Statutes, ”[t]he seller of real property upon which a sinkhole claim has been made by the seller and paid by the insurer shall disclose to the buyer of such property that a claim has been paid and whether or not the full amount of the proceeds were used to repair the sinkhole damage.” Make sure to note a couple of things in this statute. The statute says the seller or property who both “makes” a claim and had the claim “paid by the insurer” shall disclose it the buyer. If you made a claim and it was not paid, you would not fall within this statute, and would not be required to disclose it.

Having said that, you must then turn to the laws associated with the sale of residential real estate. There is a Florida Supreme Court case called Johnson v. Davis directly on this issue. Under the Johnson case, where the seller knows of facts materially affecting the value or desirability of the property which are known or accessible only to him and also knows that such facts are not known to or within the reach of the diligent attention and observation of the buyer, the seller is under a duty to disclose them to the buyer. I assume you filed the insurance claim due to the fact you had discovered damage, at a minimum, you associated with a condition near or beneath the home. As such, depending on the nature of the resolution of that problem, you could be under a separate requirement to disclose the problem, while not necessarily having to tell them about having filed an insurance claim. If you received positive information in the engineering report , you could consider disclosing that to them, which could resolve much of your duty. I would urge you to consult directly with counsel or with a professional realtor about the specific facts of your home before you make this decision.
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I hope I am wrong, but I believe that when sinkholes affect homes in a certain area, then homes in the immediate area surrounding the sinkhole activity will be red flagged & home owners insurance can be increased or become a problem. Also, any resale homes in that same area must disclose sinkhole activity close by. What I don't know is the radius this incompasses.
Perhaps someone on this forum has that answer and is willing to share the information.

Please correct me if I am worng.

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Quoted from The Village Sun, 6/30/2012 pg.C4

"Sinkholes displace two villages homeowners.

Two homeowners on Manor Downs in The Villages are currently displaced from their homes because of sinkhole activity, according to District Public Safety Department officials.

The two homes, in the 2800 block of Manor Downs, had extensive sinkhole damage underneath the homes , according to Lt. Gina Lambert.

The homes are in the Village of Belvedere.

Lambert said property insurance carriers for both homeowners were "responsive" in addressing the situation.

Two more lots in The Villages had sinkholes but Lambert said Friday those homes were not immediately threatened. One was on Plain Ridge Loop in the Village of Belvedere and other was on Edenville Path in the Village of St. Charles, Lambert said.

Smaller sinkholes were reported in other areas of The Villages, she said.

Sumter County Emergency Management Director David Casto said Friday he had verified information on 13 sinkholes of various sizes in northern Sumter county, including The Villages, Royal and Lake Panasoffkee.

Of the 13, 11 are confirmed in The Villages, Casto said.

Meanwhile, Sumter County's Public Works Department is working to repair sinkhole damage on Fenwick Loop in the Village of Sanibel and additional sinkholes were reported on Village Community Development Districts' property, such as golf courses and in retention ponds.

Sinkhole activity in Florida is common, according to the Florida Department of Environmental Affairs, and significant rainfall, such as the recent rainfall from Tropical Storm Debby can increase their likelihood."
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Amazing isn't it. This article published in the Daily Sun. Same paper that is critized so many times as the mouthpiece of "the developer" and never would have anything to hinder home sales. Them folks just like to hear themselves talk!
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Amazing isn't it. This article published in the Daily Sun. Same paper that is critized so many times as the mouthpiece of "the developer" and never would have anything to hinder home sales. Them folks just like to hear themselves talk!
New owner does a great job.
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New owner does a great job.
Pat on the back for Posh!

This article was in fact, informative. It did give the who, what, when and where of it!! So, if the "new owner" is responsible for this indepth coverage, then hats off to him.

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Pat on the back for Posh!

This article was in fact, informative. It did give the who, what, when and where of it!! So, if the "new owner" is responsible for this indepth coverage, then hats off to him.

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Betty.

As far as any on us know, there is NO new owner. Posh still owes the bet he made. He has left town. I wouldn't call him a welsher, but.............

Posh is incorrect. The Sun has not changed ownership.

See Posh...You have misled a sweet person. Don't you feel bad?
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Betty.

As far as any on us know, there is NO new owner. Posh still owes the bet he made. He has left town. I wouldn't call him a welsher, but.............

Posh is incorrect. The Sun has not changed ownership.

See Posh...You have misled a sweet person. Don't you feel bad?
You are now in denial of the truth. The Sun was sold to it's publisher. I let you off the hook for the $50.00 you owed the fire and rescue. No good deed goes unpunished. Be happy, the new owner tells all. You will no longer have to make excuses for the lack of reporting. You may be out of work as an agent for The Company but that should give you more time to enjoy TV.
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