Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Slight twist on enclosing Lanai
We are considering enclosing our Lanai. We have a CYV and a smaller Lanai - 14' x 9'.
What we are considering is having the screens replaced with concrete block and stucco and windows that are the same as in the rest of the house,. We do not have a burning desire to raise the floor to match the house. And we want it well done, and are not worried about tax implications. We want it look like it is part of the original house and not a "Florida" room or porch that has been enclosed. We have nothing against a glassed-in Lanai. We drive around and saw many we liked, but we are not "outdoor" people and plan to use the room as a game/tv room. So, my questions: 1. Could anyone that has a finished to match the house lanai post some photos so we can see how others have. 2. Ballpark estimates. I have no idea, I expect it is roughly the same price. My guess is, and it is a guess for a two wall with split air would be about $15,000? Less would be better |
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Your estimate seems about right, but I would consider a few things. Most people who do wall construction instead of glass, use studs, not block. The block may be too heavy to be supported by the lanai slab, which does not have a wall footer like the rest of the house. The lanai floor is probably not level, but sloped away from the house. I would install electrical outlets in the wall and definitely insulate the lanai ceiling. Getting a building permit "may" be an issue if you are not raising the floor. This is a very difficult time to get a contractor to schedule the work, which could also cause the price to increase.
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What would make it feel bigger too is to have the interior ceiling lifted. small sunroom - Bing images
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Good comments, thank you, the footing makes a lot of sense. We have two power duplexes and probably will want two more.
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IMHO, you might want to call the building department to see what the restrictions and permits are for this project. Also I ma sure you will need ARC approval for this project. The lanai floor is definitely slopped, ours is 2 inches over 13 feet, so you need to consider this for furniture. The ceiling of the lanai are typically not insulated, and the existing A/C is typically not rated for the additional cooling (or heat) load. Not sure of the implications of NOT raising the floor. You will need to meet current building codes, doors, windows, electrical receptacles, etc. If you plan on leaving windows open, plan for a wet floor and make sure you have a flooring for WET locations installed.
Hope your project goes well.
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That the floor is sloped is probably reason enough to level and raise it. The first implication that comes to mind is that is a qualification to increase the sq footage of the house for taxes. |
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If you get a quote for $15K, I need the name. I've been getting quotes for replacing my screens with double-pane windows, and the quotes have ranged from $17K to $37K, for the exact same thing -- most of them, the same brand of windows! They want 30% down and the only thing they will promise about when it will be done is that it won't be before September.
One guy told me it would take 6 weeks just for the permits, and then he would come out and frame up the windows in aluminum. At that point, a different guy would measure the openings (again) and order the windows, which would be ANOTHER 12 weeks. And THEN they would put me on the schedule to get them installed! And he wanted $37K for the privilege of leaving my lanai wide open all summer. I'm about ready to give up and try again next year. |
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We probably will not start until around October or November. I have been hearing about shortages in all production lines, and I hope we see some improvement by the end of the year. Also, I will be going back to Ecuador around late September or Early October for a few weeks to finish some dental work that I am having done (jaw reconstruction and 5 impacts). And I need to be here to help my wife handle our dogs while the contractors are here. So, hopefully our new office/game room for my wife will be a nice Christmas present for her ! If it is not done by then, it is not a big deal. This is an upgrade we discussed before moving in and decided was optional. We are VERY happy with our home as is, but she would just like some place to hide while I am practicing my cello - LOL... |
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Build it and they will come! Didnt you all just read about a guy on the Northside! Better do it correctly and get the proper approval and permits... Lawsuits will take up
your Sunroom time! |
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I only have one fact for you but nevertheless I’m going to say that $15,000 is a dream that won’t be coming true.
We just had a 2 ton Mitsubishi split unit installed by Kalos - $5,000. That leaves $10,000 for the construction cost. Given the level of demand around here - I doubt that 10k will even be close. For those who are wondering - yes, Kalos did a fantastically thorough install. I will be using them for all my hvac needs moving forward.
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The size of an AC is based on the size of the room, the number of zones, insulation of the room, etc. According to what I have found, 600 sqft requires about 12,000 BTUs. So, a 2 ton (24,000) BTU would cool an 800 sqft area. Our Lanai is 126 sqft - so would need a 5000 BTU unit. I can't find one that small, but if I got a 6000 BTU (1/2 ton) they sell for $700 to $1000 depending on quality and features. Installation amounts to mounting two small boxes, one inside and one outside, and drilling a 2-inch hole through the wall for the coolant lines to pass through. If I can't get a contractor to mount the units and drill the hole for less than $1000, I will do it myself. I appreciate the information, and I am clueless about the construction costs. My question posted here is so I have some idea of a ball park before I start getting quotes. I don't trust most contractors here, I think there are so many old people with too much money that contractors are used to an inflated market. |
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We had a house addition last fall and used Demetri Homes. They did excellent work and I would highly recommend them. Good luck with your plans.
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My office faces East, and the sun on them for several hours every morning was heating the windows so much that they were like a wood stove radiating heat into the room. Air conditioning and a ceiling fan helped, but the room was still ten degrees hotter than the rest of the house. Last week (with ARC approval) I installed heavy aluminum Bahama shutters (over 50 pounds) that also help with high winds (9 4.5” structural bolts into the header.) Now the sun only hits the bottom foot of glass for a few hours, and that helps a lot. The windows are now outdoor air temperature. 90° glass is better than 130° glass. (Guessing) Wide eaves or a veranda porch would help even more, but narrow eaves make more sense in an area where hurricanes are a possibility. Something that blocks the sun on the outside is much more effective at keeping a room cooler than something that blocks it on the inside, like shades. |
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