Lesson from Asa Huthchinson
 

I heard Asa Hutchinson, former Governor of Arkansas, speak at a conference. He told a story about his father. They lived very close to where his father worked, but his father would add 20minutes to his commute time. Why? Because that’s how long it took him to change a tire. If he ever got a flat he’d still be on time.

Exactly! Sometimes we wait a little bit for Dr. Rivers, sometimes he’s early. However, he ALWAYS spends enough with us when it’s our turn. That is much more important than waiting a few minutes.

Put Others Before Yourself
 

The key to happiness is not what we can do for ourselves, but what we can do for others.

The left lane is for passing…move over. Do the speed limit in the RIGHT lane. It’s in the Motor Vehicle Handbook provided by the DMV when you got your license. Perhaps you should go back and review. This is particularly important on the interstate(s). It could save your life.

The left lane is for passing on an interstate or major freeway. In a city, town, or community, it is not. A driver in the left lane may be making the next left turn, or the next. If you haven't noticed, there is a left turn at EVERY INTERSECTION.

Just because YOU are passing through does not mean ALL DRIVERS ARE. Those who honk horns in our community, pretending the left lane is for passing, ARE ANNOYING. If you are running late, it is your fault. Do not expect drivers to clear the road so YOU can pass freely. Instead, recognize, at any time, a driver in the left lane needs to make a left exit. Pretending they are driving in front of you just to annoy you will give you road rage.

If I'm already going about 40-42 mph down Morse or Buena Vista, keeping pace with most left lane traffic, passing cars that are going 30-35 (within the limit) but then guy behind me wants to go 50 or 60, they can go around.

Have you driven your car on Morse Blvd lately? You can set your cruise at 5 over and people blow by you. Apparently people have some where to be and you need to get out of their way.

It is won’t be long until the Police are forced to patrol the MMPs. Too much variation in speeds resulting in too many accidents/close calls. It is plain to see just based on the comments on this thread. It is not the issue of someone going 21 mph and another doing 17. Way too many people exceeding 25 mph routinely and upset when slowed down. I’ve clocked carts doing 30 mph on some straightaways, the situation has become the Wild West and begs for law enforcement. And please don’t say it can’t be done, anything is possible.

“I must learn to control my vociferous behavior”. Written 500 times in 7th grade by yours truly. Uggh

It’s not appointments
 

Most of these drivers have had their foot on pedal doing 15 to 20 over the speed limit all their driving lives. They have settled into this lifestyle. That next translates into their cart driving lifestyle.

I think a lot of the perceived issues are cultural, as in people come here from different areas of the country bringing their method of driving with them, and that can vary significantly. The laws also vary from state to state: "In 29 states, any car traveling slower than surrounding traffic must be in the right lane. In 11 states, the laws are even stricter—reserving the left lane only for turning
or passing." ("SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT: A Summary of “Keep Right” Traffic Laws in All 50 States" Matthiesen, Wickert & Lehrer, S.C., Attorneys-At=Law, updated January 13, 2022) Florida is one of those 11, but that means that 39 states AREN'T, and if you're from one of those states then it's a good bet that you're going to p___ off drivers who are. Yeah, I know that it is the responsibility of drivers to know the laws of the states where they are driving, but...

Also, consider the overall driving habits. Driving in the seething metropolises of, for example, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago or Boston (the four most traffic-congested states in America) is a whole lot different than driving in, say rural Iowa or Nebraska. Drivers from the one are going to have a decidedly negative opinion of drivers from another, even though each may be driving precisely the same way the do or did when back in their own environment. I can guarantee you that a dyed-in-the-wool Bostonian who finds himself suddenly driving in (say) Ames, Iowa, has a good chance of earning himself a traffic ticket for doing the same things he does routinely back home in Boston. Conversely a guy from Ames stands a good chance of getting nailed for impeding traffic if he is leisurely tooling along in the left lane in any of the four states mentioned, plus many others. Old habits die hard.

Finally, courtesy. Drivers from America's heartland are far more apt to give the other guy a break than are drivers from either coast. Saw a great example this week going to the new Costco. Traffic was bumper-to-bumper due to a pretty major accident and the turn lane off Highway 50 was backed up to the previous light. There was an opening in the line so wife signaled for a merge. A white van saw that and immediately speeded up to close the gap. The lady in the car behind the white van saw their shenanigans and blinked her headlights, slowing down to give us the opening so we could merge. Her license plate read Wisconsin. Such differences in driving attitude on the part of folks from varying parts of America are noticeable in many forms here in TV. Courtesy does indeed seem to be region-specific.

Maybe what is needed is a little less selfishness and a little more understanding. TV is a melting pot. Things take some time to blend together.

There is no left turn going north on Buena Vista at Hillsborough or Stillwater. There are a few more with no left turn when going south. When a left turn lane is needed, such as at 44, 466A, 466, etc, one is added.

It is foolish to believe that Buena Vista and Morse were built as four lane roads because older drivers need a mile of roadway to prepare for a left turn.

Stay to the left except to pass or to actually make a left turn. It is simple to understand, it is easy to do, it is considerate, and it ought to be the law.

Ridiculous for you to believe an older person needs a mile of roadway to prepare for a left exit. Tell that to the 80 and 90-year-olds who have reduced eyesight and hearing, slower reaction time, distorted thinking, and are jittery around speeders. I find it much easier to leave my home early and to expect the unexpected. I do not honk my horn because I know this will frighten them and they will drive even slower. Sometimes, it is wise to accept things we can not change. As long as we all arrive safely, who cares if it takes an extra few minutes?

Let’s not forget. There are a lot of workers driving in and through the villages to get to their job which probably in many cases require them to be there at a very specific time so they get a paycheck! I see plenty of young people driving fast up and down buena vista and I suspect this is one reason why such high speeds at least on the roads.

Culture is the Culprit
 

Yes - excellent hypothesis - I agree.

It’s the Cart (Throttle)
 

I normally drive with my foot to the floor because throttle controller on my cart doesn’t work well at mid position. It hunts, making it difficult to hold a steady speed like 15. I’ve talked to others, who have found the same - particularly with lithium carts.

Better throttle controllers may help.

I think you're spot on.
We come from somewhat rural southern Indiana and drivers there are totally different than the large metro areas. Even Indianapolis isn't bad for a large city. I will always let someone in a line of traffic, and hope they do the same some day. We're retired, so we're not in a hurry. It's a lot safer to leave a little early for your trip and take your time.

As someone else said, some of the speeders are not villagers.

Maybe people are scheduling things too close together. I have seen golf carts going 40 mph on the streets

The reason as I see it. In my opinion it's due to poor time management. Inability to leave the house in a timely manner to get to that tee time, appointment, or wherever. Another reason may be dur to overscheduling the day time hours. I can't count how many times I 've heard golfers ask the starter, " How fast does the group ahead of us play? I have a doctor's appointment in 90 minutes". Yes. I have heard that among other things from villagers. I'm really curious how many of these people will have a massive coronary due to living by a clock as if they had to be at work.

Exactly !:ho:

“Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac”

~ George Carlin

Simply get out of their way...
 

If someone chooses to speed, that is their choice. I'm too busy with my daily cares to worry about how fast another cart goes. If they come up quickly behind me, I pull over to the side and allow them to pass. Courtesy often gets me a friendly wave. Everyone is happy and we can all go on with our days. Peace and love....easy peazy.

Just leave earlier and then you won't need to rush...seems simple enough. I still work full-time so I don't have all day either...but I plan for appointments and allow enough time to get there.

I am an old codger. When I need to turn left on Morse or BV, I get in the left lane about a mile before the upcoming roundabout.

Of course, as I pull into the left lane I accelerate so that am driving at the absolute utmost allowable speed permitted by law.

Since they are private property I believe that cooperation between law enforcement and the districts has to be worked out. In my opinion local law enforcement don't have the resources to enforce the streets as it is.

Bingo.

Maybe what is needed is more Respect for the law.
Maybe what is needed is more self-respect (honesty). One knows when they are cheating (speeding is one aspect of cheating, dishonesty).

I miss George. He was one of the best observers of human beings, ever.

Would it kill you to ease off the "go pedal" for the 10 seconds it would take for them to pass you? You don't have to "pull over" and they can safely pass...

I've had people ahead of me (who are dawdling along, at 15-19 mph) do it, countless times. I wave and say "Thanks!" as I pass...

But your driving is perfect?

It's always "the other guy"... ;)

You certainly ASSume a lot in your post... Nowhere in their post did they state (nor imply) they did anything "unsafe"...

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Exactly. Then why complain about some people going a few miles over the speed limit in their golf carts?

They're up to 40 now? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

yes!

Heck, you don't even have to pull over...

Just wait till you're on a safe straight-away, wave them by and ease off the accelerator for a few seconds, as they pass.

They'll pass you safely, in a few seconds, and you'll still get that "friendly wave"...

Spoken by someone who "never" exceeds the posted speed limits, I'm sure...

Florida Left Lane Law Specifics
 

Florida Left Lane Law Specifics

​According to Florida Statute 316.081, drivers are to drive on the right side of roadways except when passing another vehicle or avoiding an obstruction. Otherwise, no drivers are allowed to continuously drive in the left lane.

​Driving Under the Speed Limit

It is Florida law that if you are driving slower than the speed limit, you have to stay as close as possible to the right-hand curb except when passing another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.

Driving Slower Than Other Left Lane Drivers

It is Florida law that if you are driving in the left lane while vehicles behind you are approaching at a faster speed, you must change to a right-hand lane. This does not apply to drivers who are preparing for a left turn.

In the sentence where s/he states he drives how s/he “wants” infers a dangerous scofflaw with disregard for the rules of the road…and a disregard for others. After 4,000,000 miles driven, and having seen people like this in no less than 48 out of 50 states, I think I’m uniquely qualified to comment. I also have a command of the English language. So, yes, I know an inference…

Way to go…when all else fails, use logic AND quote the law. I want see them argue with that. From what I’ve read earlier in this string, someone probably will.

I was talking about in a golf cart. I’m not pulling off the path for a speed demon