Seemingly reasonable ssumption. But "road-rage" is an anger issue of one unable to assess and deal rationally with a situation beyond their control. It is less about speed, and more about one's sense of entitlement. "I wanna go! Everyone get out of MY way! " Sounds like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum, doesn't it?

So has all of this discussion helped anyone?

Has anyone changed their driving methods?

Don't look at me. I am perfectly happy with the way I drive.

Nevertheless, it is reality. Isn't there a story about bees in a jar?

So says the teenager driving 100mph down the turnpike.... right up until the time the way he drives results in a rear-end collision that kills everyone in both cars.

Fast/slow, right/left, stop/merge - when one decides they know better than the other 90% of the drivers on the road problems occur.

At least there is one thing everyone can agree on. Nobody ever gets slowed down by someone who is BEHIND them.

I've heard about the one where you have a jar of red ants, and black ants. They're fine till you shake up the jar and then they start attacking each other.

1. I, and perhaps others, have been mildly entertained.

2. Of course no one has changed.

3. Glad to hear you are happy. Any and all problems with the other person. Always!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Nonsense... It's not "a minute or two"... It can be 20-30 minutes, stuck behind someone who cannot regulate their speed...

When the carts start backing up behind you, here's a tip... "It's You"...

Then why are the posted speeds 20?

And why did you ignore the "15 mph" part?

Because YOUR driving is impeccable, and everyone else drives like an idiot... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Hyperbole much?

Did you read post #96?

It is not about whether you are perfectly happy - it is the law.

I really don't think so.

But what would this site be without the twice monthly reminder from the crowd that can't mind their own business. I'm pretty sure I was behind the OP the other day when they refused to turn right on yellow. After a minute sitting behind them on red with nobody coming, I gave the blast that lasts. They finally inched into their right on red.

From what's been posted, I suspect that is a club with a membership of one.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Seriously???? I can't believe that even the Grand Poobah of climate change village idiots could explain how lowering the speed limit from 30 to 20 "saves the planet"

It doesn't. But the speeding fines are plentiful, and very welcome from the enforcers!

No. Left Lane Campers habitually drive in the left lane and do so for miles on end. A great example is 301. Yes there are left turns, but these self absorbed people go for miles without turning, while lines of frustrated drivers form a long parade behind them.

No. It isn't All About You. If someone is behind you pull into the right lane. It isn't about judging other drivers and finding them guilty. You are judging each driver based on your sense of Right and Wrong. That isn't a component of driving; it is simple- someone is behind you so Pull Over. All this judgement is the reason for most of the road rage incidents.

That person said they do whatever they want without concern for other drivers. It is implied that they don't follow laws as they drive. Driving safely is a combination of courtesy and following laws. That person bragged that they don't care how their driving affects any other drivers. I think that is a clear admission of violating laws.

We tell you how to go around a rotary so you don't plow into our cars when you make a last minute decision.

As already explained, that would be your inference...

What about the "We" who continue to give incorrect information about driving thru roundabouts? Should we listen to them?

I travel 301 daily and I see the opposite. A few drivers accelerating to pass as many cars as possible, and weaving in and out of lanes. Aggressive driving will not get the result you desire. Most cars will slow down fearful of being struck.

When 301 is congested, a driver should not expect the road to magically open for him. The left lane is not a "drive as fast as I want" lane. There are posted speed limits. Drivers who ignore the limit are dangerous.

Why do you ignore the 19 mph part? Trying to spin the darkest picture! That's why.

I purposely posted a range. YOU are the in zeroing in on the tippy top of that range....

And thanks for the mind reading, Carnack...

Actually, most people are in that club. Aka the "get out of my way you miserable slowpoke" club. Aka the "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" club. Aka the "laws are for other people" club. Aka the "I'm special. How dare you troglodites not bow to my superiority" club. Aka -----

You are most welcome.

Yes, one member is very sufficient, as long as that one is me.

When I was a young kid, I used to say, "I like myself and I love myself". I guess I haven't changed much.

Hey! You go, guy, or girl, or, um, whatever!

20 to 30 minutes? How far do you think you are going to have to follow that individual? The likely hood of you following the same cart for more than a block or two before you have a chance to get by is probably pretty slim. Most places I use my cart for (other than golf) I could walk to in 20 to 30 minutes.

Wow, just wow! Guess there really hasn't been much change. Please google "Narcissus".

They absolutely are. And both law enforcement and insurance company data show that it is the SLOW driver that is far more dangerous than the speeders. Stay in the right lane except to pass.

I am not going to disagree with your data. One can easily google ANYTHING and find the answer that you desire. My common sense tells me speeding vehicles cause more damage and fatalities in a collision.This is why most drivers slow down when confronted. It is a knee jerk reaction. Every driver understands that it is not going to be pretty if you are the one struck by the speeder.

I am guessing you do not travel 301 on a regular basis. At times, it gets congested with no means for the majority of traffic to stay in the right lane.

Fortunately, my data trumps your "common sense".

As far as 301 in Florida goes, it doesn't come anywhere close to driving on the BQE or Cross Bronx

I doubt I am trumped. I can easily google what I have stated and find data to support it. I do not have to! My common sense knows a speeding vehicle causes more damage and fatalaties. Want to put it to a test? Let me hit your car from behind at 35 mph. Then let me hit you going 65 mph. Will you still believe the slower causes more damage?

What about your reaction time when you see the vehicles approaching? Will you have more time to get out of the way of a 35 mph vehicle or a 65 mph vehicle? Will you freeze in fear?

Drivers freeze when they see a speeding car approaching them. They instantly slow down. It is a knee jerk reaction.

So what if a car or cart is driving slow in the left lane? When you approach, you can pass them on the right. If that is impossible because of other traffic, what makes you believe the driver in the left lane can do the impossible?

Data? What data? You have mentioned such data before but, to the best of my knowledge (having likely not seen every post you have made) have never posted the actual data. So, as far as I, or others know your "trump" is just hear say. One thing we do know is "speed kills!"

GE's data is correct. Slow drivers DO CAUSE more accidents. I was trying to explain why a driver in the left lane may slow down. Moving at the speed limit, they notice a speeding car approaching from behind. They instantly take their foot off the gas. It is a knee jerk reaction that stems from a fear of being struck.

I have lived here for 23 yrs and I have not seen many vehicles travelling significantly lower than the speed limit for an extended period of time. Instead, I often see a driver continuing to keep speed even when approaching another vehicle. The driver in front immediately slows down. The speeder gets angry. He honks his horn, flips a finger, or yells. In my opinion, the speeder is at fault. He has made an assumption that the driver ahead of him has no reason to be there. And now, has slowed down to tick him off.

In fact, the slow driver in the left lane most likely has reason. He has just entered onto the road and is trying to get into the right lane, he is lost, he is making the next left turn, he accelerated to pass vehicles on the right and is now waiting to get back into the right lane, or he is experiencing car problems. The speeder does not recognize this. His only concern is himself.This aggressive driving is the reason the driver in front of him SLOWS DOWN.

BTW: The data does not specifically state slow drivers have more accidents. It states the slow driver causes other drivers periods of braking and speeding up.

I totally agree with you that higher speeds in an accident cause more damage and possibly fatalities, especially the difference in speed, which makes the slow driver just as contributory as the speeder. I’m not sure how many drivers see a “speeder” and slow down out of “fear”, I certainly don’t, but I suppose those with inferior driving skills are more likely to do so

I've always wondered about the thought process that says, "Hey, there's a guy behind me that is going faster than me and would like me to get out of the way. I know what I'll do instead, I'll drive even slower, that will make things better."