[stadry]

slow hot water @ kitchen & mstr bath sinks - copper piping 4 yr old house suggestions ?recirculating pump - under sink elec? may be the only 2 viable choices tnx in adv!!

[DangeloInspections]

Homes here in The Villages have your water pipes in the slab. They are not insulated and there is not a return loop. The slab is a huge heat sink and will quickly remove the heat from the hot water pipes. A 4 year old Villages home does not have copper pipes...so perhaps you are speaking of a home outside The Villages...but it does not matter the type of pipes you have. You do not say if you have a water heater tank or tankless.

If you have a tank, you can add a recirculating pump rather easily. The two main brands are Grundflos and Watts. A plumber will install these for around $600-$700, or you can do it yourself for about half that.

There are MANY threads here on TOTV on this subject.

[stadry]

QUOTE=DangeloInspections;1960062]Homes here in The Villages have your water pipes in the slab do they think copper's as good as steel rebar ??. They are notinsulated no surprise labor & mtl $ not in code either there is not a return loop no surprise either. The slab is a huge heat sink and will quickly remove the heat from the hot water pipes WOW does it everlose heat fast?. A 4 year old Villages home does not have copper up thru sink cabinet floor to sink fixture-plastic delivery in bathrooms ...so perhaps you are speaking of a home outside The Villages...osceola hillsbut it does not matter the type of pipes you have. You do not say if you have std 40 gal water heater
thanks frank alwaysgood talking w/ you. appreciate your time too !

[Topspinmo]

I just wait on it, mine takes about 35 seconds.

[Garywt]

I think it is the same in all houses. We just turn the shower on first and then get ready to shower. It is usually hot by the time we are ready.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I just wait on it, mine takes about 35 seconds.

If you're in a hurry, you can cut the time by more than half by turning on the sink faucet and the shower faucet at the same time.

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by stadry

slow hot water @ kitchen & mstr bath sinks - copper piping 4 yr old house suggestions ?recirculating pump - under sink elec? may be the only 2 viable choices tnx in adv!!

Four years is a long time to wait for hot water

[RICH1]

If it's only in the kitchen and master bathroom sinks, you better take it up with them... sounds like they might be trying to drain you.. whatever the issue , remember the washing machine may be the agitator...

[crash]

Originally Posted by stadry

slow hot water @ kitchen & mstr bath sinks - copper piping 4 yr old house suggestions ?recirculating pump - under sink elec? may be the only 2 viable choices tnx in adv!!

Take the flow restrictor out of the faucets. You can turn on the shower to full hot and the water will get hot faster at the sinks, it flows more water.

[donassaid]

Hot water heater recirculator. Lowes carries them for under $150. Mounts on top of the hot water heater but must be piped in. Works off a timer and works like a charm.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Hot water heater recirculator. Lowes carries them for under $150. Mounts on top of the hot water heater but must be piped in. Works off a timer and works like a charm.

My charm doesn't work as well as it used to.

[toeser]

I'm a small-government person, but it's obscene that insulating hot water pipes through a concrete slab is not part of our building codes. The lifetime energy waste is huge. I would gladly pay a few hundred more for a house that had insulated pipes.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by toeser

I'm a small-government person, but it's obscene that insulating hot water pipes through a concrete slab is not part of our building codes. The lifetime energy waste is huge. I would gladly pay a few hundred more for a house that had insulated pipes.

I find it interesting that we seek/demand perfection and yet in reality, it does not exist.
I expect waiting for hot water to arrive is different in different model homes. Distance from the hot water heater.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by toeser

I'm a small-government person, but it's obscene that insulating hot water pipes through a concrete slab is not part of our building codes. The lifetime energy waste is huge. I would gladly pay a few hundred more for a house that had insulated pipes.

If you want to save energy, you will save a lot more by installing a fiberglass blanket around the 40 gallon water heater tank. You can buy an insulation kit for about $30-40 on Amazon. There is only about 2-3 gallons of water in the pipes, and it will cool down in an hour or so, even if they are insulated.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Hot water heater recirculator. Lowes carries them for under $150. Mounts on top of the hot water heater but must be piped in. Works off a timer and works like a charm.

As I've said nothing is perfect. Circulating hot water on a timer, my schedule is not that predicable. Hot water in the pipes, there is the cost of running the pump but usually not considered is your AC bill for pumping that paid for heat, at water heater, out of your home. Worth it-your choice. It is a choice. Not a particularly expensive one.