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Old 02-05-2023, 04:26 AM
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One day, your temper might get you in trouble...

As I get older, I find my attitude it quite the opposite of yours.

I don't feel entitled to anything. If someone cuts me off? Who cares?

If my meal is late? I'll ask to speak to the manager. They are the only one who can fix the problem.

I would NEVER get in anyone's face and "call them a jerk" for having a cigar. It's just not that important.

That said, if someone gets in MY face, and starts verbally assaulting me, we're going to have a problem...
You are so scary that someone is going to be in trouble. I thought you didn’t care about such things. At the time, on that day it was the thing to do. On another day it probably would not have been an issue. I don’t carry, never have and have never owned anything to carry. I have never had a reason or a need to.

Life goes on for now.
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Old 02-05-2023, 11:08 AM
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Anyone who has gone to listen to music has heard 4 times every night that there is no smoking at the squares. They ask that you go out to the sidewalk, away from people to smoke. After my bad restaurant experience I am sitting trying to enjoy some music when the guy sitting next to me lights up his cigar. With the smell every time he took a puff I got very annoyed. Finally I got up to leave but first I turned to him and yelled at him. I told him he sucked and that he needed to be out on the sidewalk. I then left the square missing out on the music.
I'm an agreeable and reasonable person. You approach me gently and kindly "remind" me of the no-smoking policy or politely point me to the smoking area, I will likely comply.

You approach me in manner you described, I'm likely to tell you to F-off, write me a ticket (which you cannot), pound sand, kick rocks, and blow cigar smoke more aggressively in your direction. Then I will remember you for any future occasion that we come across each others path and I will be less than friendly and perhaps even downright hostile.

No apologies, that's just how I am. You might reconsider sticking your nose into other people's business. At the very least, you might reconsider your approach if you insist on being the Karen With A Clipboard type of person.
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I'm an agreeable and reasonable person. You approach me gently and kindly "remind" me of the no-smoking policy or politely point me to the smoking area, I will likely comply.

You approach me in manner you described, I'm likely to tell you to F-off, write me a ticket (which you cannot), pound sand, kick rocks, and blow cigar smoke more aggressively in your direction. Then I will remember you for any future occasion that we come across each others path and I will be less than friendly and perhaps even downright hostile.

No apologies, that's just how I am. You might reconsider sticking your nose into other people's business. At the very least, you might reconsider your approach if you insist on being the Karen With A Clipboard type of person.
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You are so scary that someone is going to be in trouble. I thought you didn’t care about such things. At the time, on that day it was the thing to do. On another day it probably would not have been an issue. I don’t carry, never have and have never owned anything to carry. I have never had a reason or a need to.

Life goes on for now.
Read IS fundamental...

All the things I said I don't care about don't include a threat to me. Someone "getting in my face" IS a threat...

The fact that you can't see the difference is quite interesting...
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I'm an agreeable and reasonable person. You approach me gently and kindly "remind" me of the no-smoking policy or politely point me to the smoking area, I will likely comply.

You approach me in manner you described, I'm likely to tell you to F-off, write me a ticket (which you cannot), pound sand, kick rocks, and blow cigar smoke more aggressively in your direction. Then I will remember you for any future occasion that we come across each others path and I will be less than friendly and perhaps even downright hostile.

No apologies, that's just how I am. You might reconsider sticking your nose into other people's business. At the very least, you might reconsider your approach if you insist on being the Karen With A Clipboard type of person.
He or she can be the complainant/witness on a ticket, depending on the Officer assigned to the disturbance,
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My understanding of the law is: If there is no state, county or city law/ordinance prohibiting smoking in public places, the police have no authority to write a ticket or make an arrest of an individual who is smoking. My understanding is that the entertainment area is private property, outside that area is public property. A business owner or the owner of the entertainment area can put up signs prohibiting smoking on their property. This prohibition is not a law or ordinance. If someone is smoking in the entertainment area, then the owner or representative of the owner can demand the smoker to cease smoking or leave the establishment. If the individual refuses to do as asked, the police then can be called to order the person to leave or be charged with trespassing, but only if the owner demands the person be charged.
The Villages cannot enact laws or ordinances as it is not a government entity. Brownwood falls within the jurisdiction of Wildwood, and those city ordinances apply to Brownwood. I don't know if Sumpter Landing or Spanish Springs are within any city's jurisdiction but definitely are within the jurisdiction of Sumter County.
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Read IS fundamental...

All the things I said I don't care about don't include a threat to me. Someone "getting in my face" IS a threat...

The fact that you can't see the difference is quite interesting...
Read is fundamental, what does that mean?

My thought was just that in your old age you let everything slide by without an issue but that you do carry and no one should get in your face. It doesn’t add up.
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Read is fundamental, what does that mean?

My thought was just that in your old age you let everything slide by without an issue but that you do carry and no one should get in your face. It doesn’t add up.
It means that you didn't actually read what I wrote...

Your "thought" (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) couldn't be more wrong.

I never said I let "everything" slide. You actually think I'd stand there and let an assault, a robbery, a carjacking "slide"?

I carry to protect myself and my loved ones. Not to get into altercations with people who have "anger issues". Or people who snap at others in public places for smoking a cigar...

I've found that carrying makes me calmer. The last thing I want to do is deal with the aftermath of actually having to use my weapon. That is why I let the little things "slide"...

You should try it. It'll be good for your blood pressure...


P.S. Old age? I'm probably younger than you...
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Anyone who has gone to listen to music has heard 4 times every night that there is no smoking at the squares. They ask that you go out to the sidewalk, away from people to smoke. After my bad restaurant experience I am sitting trying to enjoy some music when the guy sitting next to me lights up his cigar. With the smell every time he took a puff I got very annoyed. Finally I got up to leave but first I turned to him and yelled at him. I told him he sucked and that he needed to be out on the sidewalk. I then left the square missing out on the music.
Should have said Excuse me
Your cigar smoke is most annoying not to mention not permitted.
I 'll just take it that your currently an entitled moment due to your addiction
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It means that you didn't actually read what I wrote...

Your "thought" (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) couldn't be more wrong.

I never said I let "everything" slide. You actually think I'd stand there and let an assault, a robbery, a carjacking "slide"?

I carry to protect myself and my loved ones. Not to get into altercations with people who have "anger issues". Or people who snap at others in public places for smoking a cigar...

I've found that carrying makes me calmer. The last thing I want to do is deal with the aftermath of actually having to use my weapon. That is why I let the little things "slide"...

You should try it. It'll be good for your blood pressure...


P.S. Old age? I'm probably younger than you...
I think we have more to worry about Garywt carrying. Bit too short of a temper.
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It means that you didn't actually read what I wrote...

Your "thought" (and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt) couldn't be more wrong.

I never said I let "everything" slide. You actually think I'd stand there and let an assault, a robbery, a carjacking "slide"?

I carry to protect myself and my loved ones. Not to get into altercations with people who have "anger issues". Or people who snap at others in public places for smoking a cigar...

I've found that carrying makes me calmer. The last thing I want to do is deal with the aftermath of actually having to use my weapon. That is why I let the little things "slide"...

You should try it. It'll be good for your blood pressure...


P.S. Old age? I'm probably younger than you...
Let’s just leave it as I read too much into what you said. As for my age, I turned 59 in December, retired just after my 55th birthday due to my cancer and have been battling my incurable disease sine 7/31/13.
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I think we have more to worry about Garywt carrying. Bit too short of a temper.
Not to worry, I have never had a desire to own or carry a gun so I never will.
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Not to worry, I have never had a desire to own or carry a gun so I never will.
Just yanking your chain.
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Old 02-06-2023, 04:00 PM
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I think we have more to worry about Garywt carrying. Bit too short of a temper.
I was talking about "letting the little things slide", but you might be right.

Not everyone has the temperament to carry a weapon...
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Let’s just leave it as I read too much into what you said. As for my age, I turned 59 in December, retired just after my 55th birthday due to my cancer and have been battling my incurable disease sine 7/31/13.
Well, I'll admit it when I'm wrong... You got me by a few years...
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