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Does anyone have any experience with bird cages and/or Pergolas that are constructed with some sort of solid roof? I would like to sit out and listen to the rain.
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I have noticed some birdcages in our neighborhood getting retrofitted with canvas tops. Can't offer any pros or cons on them, though.
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I'm not sure if this is what you are interested in, but here is a screen room I just added on last month. It has a 5" solid foam composite roof with shingles glued on top. It is maintenance free. It is 24' wide by 14' deep.

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What an interesting concept - I assume this is permissible as far as the building code, but curious how it would react in a hurricane. And seems more economical so why isn't this type of roofing more widely used???
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I'm not sure if this is what you are interested in, but here is a screen room I just added on last month. It has a 5" solid foam composite roof with shingles glued on top. It is maintenance free. It is 24' wide by 14' deep.

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What an interesting concept - I assume this is permissible as far as the building code, but curious how it would react in a hurricane. And seems more economical so why isn't this type of roofing more widely used???
we have it in n.j. on our solarium [southern exposure] and it withstood superstorm sandy...same storm took down ground level stockade fence and blew out 2nd story bedroom window.
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I do not have the specs in front of me, but it more then satisfied all of the building codes and specs. Each panel was 4'wide by 14' long and needed to only be supported by the end walls and one center beam. I remember they could have been up to around 20' long before you would need a middle support beam. I designed it with a 5/12 pitch to match the rest of the house.

Walking on it was no problem as it did not have any bounce in it at all. I have felt more bounce on the roofs I inspect everyday.

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When we had our birdcage installed, one of the options offered was an aluminun roof with some architectural details to make it appealing. We didn't....we we had! It was just a small amount more for the roof vs the screen top. Now we are considering a canvas (or coolaroo) cover, which will cost much more, as an after-thought, then if we had just gone with the roof.
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For those interested, here is a picture of the inside of the roof. I preferred this over a birdcage, as I did not want the rain to come in from above. I did not want to worry about repainting, cracks, etc down the road. I just finished installing the vinyl beadboard on the top inside gable portion, (the triangle on top) last night. That also was screened, but I wanted to cover it so now I can install Coolaroo shades on the rest of the screening. Down the road if I want the framing is designed to accept glass sliding windows. For now my wife preferred screens which lowered the cost. The solid roof comes in different thicknesses and lengths. It is aluminum all around with foam inside. It locks together and is watertight. The shingles were only added for looks, not need.

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We had one of the tent like roofs installed on our birdcage. We love it. My husband sits out often when it is raining and stays nice and dry.
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For those interested, here is a picture of the inside of the roof. I preferred this over a birdcage, as I did not want the rain to come in from above. I did not want to worry about repainting, cracks, etc down the road. I just finished installing the vinyl beadboard on the top inside gable portion, (the triangle on top) last night. That also was screened, but I wanted to cover it so now I can install Coolaroo shades on the rest of the screening. Down the road if I want the framing is designed to accept glass sliding windows. For now my wife preferred screens which lowered the cost. The solid roof comes in different thicknesses and lengths. It is aluminum all around with foam inside. It locks together and is watertight. The shingles were only added for looks, not need.

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Does anyone know who installs vinyl on a birdcage roof instead of the canvas - thank you.
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Does anyone know who installs vinyl on a birdcage roof instead of the canvas - thank you.
The photograph above is a home not in The Villages.

You can do anything with ARC approval.

I am dubious because I haven't seen any birdcages here on campus with roofs. They probably would allow that integration if the roof line of the extension was designed to be part of the home, making it a screened in porch.

But building a birdcage with a roof or an extension jutting out with a roof isn't something I have seen here.

Like I said. If you get permission from ARC, you can do it, if you do it without their permission they can force you to remove it if it isn't up to standards.

But you can paint your house any color, go figure.
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Has anyone placed a vinyl cover over bird cage roof instead of canvas - if so, who does this? thanks
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Gracie, I have seen composite roofs over lanai/screenrooms in The Villages. A beautiful one has recently been done in the Mission Hills area off of a newer courtyard villa. I inspected it and was very impressed.....it gave me the inspiration to do mine. Gracie, you know I'm too nice of a guy to ever post something that someone could not do...

The company that did it was Bryan Terry Vinyl. They did a great job, complete with electrical, flat screen outdoor TV, etc. They did the roof just like mine, a composite roof with glued on asphalt shingles.

As to DEWRDW's question, I do not know of any vinyl roof made. If you are referring to a composite roof, they are made of aluminum on the outside with foam in the middle. They come in thicknesses from 3' to over 5". Many aluminum birdcage contractors do them. I'm told Bryan Terry Vinyl is one of the best. T&D, Lake Square Aluminum, etc are a few others.

Enjoy! Frank
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