[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

Here is your answer!

[Robbb]

Originally Posted by BlackHarley

But....did they try to sell you insurance?

Nooo, but they did lower my credit card interest rate.

[courtyard]

Could it be the DOD messing with us before they are kicked out in January?

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by jrref

What I don't understand is Remote ID is now a requirement and if these drones are broadcasting it should be easy to find the controller flying them. If they are not broadcasting Remote ID then they are violating the law and should be investigated. I saw an article that they were violating restricted airspace in NJ so at this point you can't say they are not a concern.

This has been a funny thread!

Remote ID is required but there are at least 3 problems:

1) there's no way to enforce it - no requirement to and no manpower or money to

2) most newer aircraft now have it built in but older drones require an add on module that can cost between $30 and $200 or more, and availability of these has been cyclic and scares. Over half my drones don't have it and require a module to legally fly and I can't use just one and share it, the FAA requires each to have their own serialized module.

3) most drone pilots don't like the system because it can make their location information known to the public making them vulnerable to confrontations, attack, and thefts. Few have issues with law enforcement or the FAA having this information, but the general public is a real show stopper for most and have resulting in many ignoring the requirement for their own safety.

And of course, the biggie on the whole remote ID issue – it basically doesn’t work and when it does it works poorly. It was a nice idea but was rushed and poorly implemented. It was rushed and is generally a total waste of time and money.

[sowilts]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

While picking my Granddaughter, 9, while we’re at our home at Annapolis. 9 year old boy across the street was flying a Drone. Asked him where it was.? He said im looking at people at the Annapolis Mall about a half mile away. My Granddad is a pilot. I said do you understand it is against FAA rules to fly close to people and buildings? Never heard of that, I'm not taking pictures.

[Joe C.]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the police flying them and tracking a suspect. Shooting one down in a populated area is illegal and irresponsible. Shooting one down in a rural area is a different situation.
The videos that I've seen online are ridiculous ..... one had a video of Jupiter or Venus in the evening sky and thought it was a drone.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

This has been a funny thread!

Remote ID is required but there are at least 3 problems:

1) there's no way to enforce it - no requirement to and no manpower or money to

2) most newer aircraft now have it built in but older drones require an add on module that can cost between $30 and $200 or more, and availability of these has been cyclic and scares. Over half my drones don't have it and require a module to legally fly and I can't use just one and share it, the FAA requires each to have their own serialized module.

3) most drone pilots don't like the system because it can make their location information known to the public making them vulnerable to confrontations, attack, and thefts. Few have issues with law enforcement or the FAA having this information, but the general public is a real show stopper for most and have resulting in many ignoring the requirement for their own safety.

And of course, the biggie on the whole remote ID issue – it basically doesn’t work and when it does it works poorly. It was a nice idea but was rushed and poorly implemented. It was rushed and is generally a total waste of time and money.

Don, since you’re a very knowledgeable and experienced drone pilot, I’m curious what the thoughts are with you and your fellow pilots regarding the trade offs between necessary regulations and not being overly restrictive to pilots. Drones have evolved rapidly and necessary regulations haven’t appeared to be put into place addressing their ever growing presence and potential applications. I think a lot of the general population is uncomfortable having their privacy potentially invaded by the presence of high definition cameras flying over their property and images being posted on social media. Additionally, with all the wack jobs out there, drones can be used to carry very dangerous payloads. Drones obviously also have several beneficial applications and are generally used responsibly, which shouldn’t be limited. Just curious how the experienced and educated drone pilot community views this?

[loumazzio1]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

Travel some 10,000 light years and use drones to spy on us seems like it's those darn North Koreans or the those pesky Chinese Aliens !!!!!

[Nana2Teddy]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

According to the totally unbiased Breitbart, substantiated in an interview on OANN, here's the truth:

It's the Jewish space aliens from the Interplanetary Galactic Laser Corps. They became refugees and are hosted by China and Mexico, allied with the Haitians For Dalmatians Cooperative Gourmet Club in Ohio.

They were flying over New Jersey because they were informed about an offer they shouldn't refuse, and they're checking to find out who "the guy" is, who was referred to in the dossier.

I’m assuming you’re referring to the Haitians from Haitia, not the Haitians from Haiti? 😬

[Normal]

Originally Posted by HORNET

Rumor, China DJI project!

Lol, ya. That’s why they are lit up and marked while they are in the sky.

[Blueblaze]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

This has been a funny thread!

Remote ID is required but there are at least 3 problems:

1) there's no way to enforce it - no requirement to and no manpower or money to

2) most newer aircraft now have it built in but older drones require an add on module that can cost between $30 and $200 or more, and availability of these has been cyclic and scares. Over half my drones don't have it and require a module to legally fly and I can't use just one and share it, the FAA requires each to have their own serialized module.

3) most drone pilots don't like the system because it can make their location information known to the public making them vulnerable to confrontations, attack, and thefts. Few have issues with law enforcement or the FAA having this information, but the general public is a real show stopper for most and have resulting in many ignoring the requirement for their own safety.

And of course, the biggie on the whole remote ID issue – it basically doesn’t work and when it does it works poorly. It was a nice idea but was rushed and poorly implemented. It was rushed and is generally a total waste of time and money.

Every cop in America is authorized by the FAA to enforce the FAA rules concerning illegal operation of drones, so the "personnel" issue is silly. It's the entire reason "RemoteID" uses bluetooth to transmit the owner's FAA registration number.

However, since hobbyist drones aren't capable of operating at the altitudes in question, and don't use navigation lights, the only reason Remote ID is relevant is that it indicates how ridiculously simple it is to separate the legal aircraft from the illegal drones -- regardless of what Mayorkas claimed. The fact is, anyone can download an FAA-supported app intended for private pilots, that displays all the legal aircraft in the area, along with any drones, on a map. Any lights you see in the sky that are not on that map represent illegally operating aircraft.

The only question that remains is why our government refuses to do anything about them. The government lies about their inability to enforce their own airspace laws are so absurd that it almost represents proof that they're in on it somehow. And that's the scariest part of this entire episode.

[mraines]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

I have spoken to friends and family in Jersey and none of them have seen any.

[mraines]

Originally Posted by ScottGo

Why not just shoot them down?

Because it is illegal to do so.

[KeithDB]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

The current drone craze is mostly mass hysteria. The power of suggestion is combining with confirmation bias prompting people to attribute normal events to something unusual and weird. They are seeing normal manned aircraft, and even planets and stars, and convincing themselves they are mysterious drones. Then they get upset that the government isn't tracking the phantoms of their mind down.

The former Governor of Maryland did this, posting video of the Constellation Orion, insisting they were drones. Another indication this is rooted in the power of suggestion is how drone sighting are suddenly popping up everywhere as publicity about the notion spreads. This also explains why there are no clear pictures of any mystery drones.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by Robbb

Are these sightings in New Jersey just hobbyist's playing around, or is this the beginning of the alien invasion?

Virtually every video I have seen on the TV news was a commercial or private jet in a landing configuration. Some of the videos were of too poor a quality to be identified. I’m sure some police, TV news, and hobbyists have joined in as well. Still, why does t the government just tell us what they are? If they can’t do that then congress must re-think their appropriations. The government can’t identify these flying craft? Really? I don’t think so. Not on radar? No ADS-b? If they can’t identify them, then they can’t assert that they are not a threat or a hazard to navigation. Hobbyist drones are nothing to be concerned about at all, but they are easily identified and if anything over regulated. We certainly can’t remove the government from the list of suspects. Surveillance by hobbyist drones is completely ridiculous, if you know anything about them at all. Plus, surveillance that is extremely visible and noisy as well? Really?