[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by rp001

I believe there is ample work in this area to keep our ministers of law and order busy..Look at the arrest records and there seems to be a large contingent of meth users and petty theives immediately surrounding our wonderful world, Wildwood and Fruitland Park and Belleview.

Perhaps the officers would be better suited tending to real crime prevention than ticketing little old ladies on Buena Vista en masse...I know we are looked upon by some of the locals in disdain and are perceived as rich..Look at the median income for the tri county area for a family of four..We are in effect the cash cows for Sumter, and Northern Lake county...

The only way that your statement can be true is if you acknowledge that Villagers must first be law-breakers before they can be cash cows. This is really a "non-issue" if you simply slow down!

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

I stay away from areas that have speed traps such as Fruitland Park. They lose my dollars that I'd spend in restaurants, shops, etc. because of their over strict policies. I've heard of people getting tickets for going 2 mph over the limit. Thats within speedometer error tolerance and is ridiculous. Until the merchants complain and their policies change, then I'm staying away.
I read a very good article about some communities around the country shortening the yellow lights time in order to give tickets for running red lights. The average time for a yellow light is around 4.3 seconds. One community in California, (Union City) shortened the time by 1.3 seconds under state law. After getting caught they had to refund more than $1 million in fines. This shows me these law enforcement efforts are not for safety, but for revenue. These are pet peeves of mine. They build a divided 4 lane highway and put a 35mph speed limit on it. How ridiculous is that?

Yellow lights are supposed to be timed by the speed of the road going into the light. I.e. you can't set a light on a 50 mph road the same as you can at a 25 mph road. I don't know the exact calculations but I think that is how they do it.

[Posh 08]

LEOs don't have ticket quotas. Their bosses get complaints about speeders in certain areas. They get told to set up there. They watch their devices, you get their attention, you get pulled over. Press hard, 5 copies. Have a nice day.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I woud like to see a good definition of "speed trap".

Setting aside any dictionary-type definitions, here are a few interesting perspectives from the law enforcement side of things:

How do YOU define "speed trap?"

Bill

[rp001]

I'm not buying that about the "complaints" being the primary reason for the generation of revenue production within this community...Annnnd even though leo's don't exactly have ticket quotas, they are judged by their bosses and peers by their "production" rate..This I know for a fact..My family has been in the law enforcement buisness for over 30 yrs...In south Florida..Being pulled over and ticketed for a very few miles over is just petty and we don't have rampant speeders around here..They are few and far between. And there is ample crime,of a far more serious nature within Sumter county to keep our finest busy...

[billethkid]

please don't try to compare the rate of crime to the rate of traffic violations in TV.

The crime rate would be a 1 on a scale of 10 and traffic violations would be a 37 on a scale of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said it before and I will say it again, they should put as many cops out on the road as it will take to get the traffic violations as low as possible and TV gets a reputation for being a speed trap area like the ones we all know so well and we do slow down for (right?).

Book 'em Danno!!

btk

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by billethkid

please don't try to compare the rate of crime to the rate of traffic violations in TV.

The crime rate would be a 1 on a scale of 10 and traffic violations would be a 37 on a scale of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said it before and I will say it again, they should put as many cops out on the road as it will take to get the traffic violations as low as possible and TV gets a reputation for being a speed trap area like the ones we all know so well and we do slow down for (right?).

Book 'em Danno!!

btk

100% agree with you.

[PaPaLarry]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

The only way that your statement can be true is if you acknowledge that Villagers must first be law-breakers before they can be cash cows. This is really a "non-issue" if you simply slow down!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by billethkid

please don't try to compare the rate of crime to the rate of traffic violations in TV.

The crime rate would be a 1 on a scale of 10 and traffic violations would be a 37 on a scale of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said it before and I will say it again, they should put as many cops out on the road as it will take to get the traffic violations as low as possible and TV gets a reputation for being a speed trap area like the ones we all know so well and we do slow down for (right?).

Book 'em Danno!!

btk

Yep. You are right.

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by rp001

I'm not buying that about the "complaints" being the primary reason for the generation of revenue production within this community...Annnnd even though leo's don't exactly have ticket quotas, they are judged by their bosses and peers by their "production" rate..This I know for a fact..My family has been in the law enforcement buisness for over 30 yrs...In south Florida..Being pulled over and ticketed for a very few miles over is just petty and we don't have rampant speeders around here..They are few and far between. And there is ample crime,of a far more serious nature within Sumter county to keep our finest busy...

Do we really need the police patrolling for speeders?????????

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[Posh 08]

Originally Posted by billethkid

please don't try to compare the rate of crime to the rate of traffic violations in TV.

The crime rate would be a 1 on a scale of 10 and traffic violations would be a 37 on a scale of 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have said it before and I will say it again, they should put as many cops out on the road as it will take to get the traffic violations as low as possible and TV gets a reputation for being a speed trap area like the ones we all know so well and we do slow down for (right?).

Book 'em Danno!!

btk

[rp001]

The comparison is valid...It shows the emphasis being placed on the innocent seniors instead of the wrongdoers..We are an easy taget..And remain the cash cows for Sumter county....

[dillywho]

Originally Posted by rp001

The comparison is valid...It shows the emphasis being placed on the innocent seniors instead of the wrongdoers..We are an easy taget..And remain the cash cows for Sumter county....

No brainer....seniors or otherwise...no violations (including speeding) = no tickets and no "cash cow". Traffic rules are for safety, including any and everyone, not as revenue generators. Traffic violations are "wrong-doings".

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by rp001

The comparison is valid...It shows the emphasis being placed on the innocent seniors instead of the wrongdoers..We are an easy taget..And remain the cash cows for Sumter county....

“innocent seniors” what is that, is it a senior that is NOT speeding and gets a ticket???

“wrongdoers” what is that, is it a senior that is speeding and gets a ticket???

“easy target” what is that, is it a senior that is speeding and stops to except a ticket rather that trying to elude the police by cutting across a golf course.

“cash cows” that would be old enough to know better but to young to resist.

“Village Life Style” does not mean you are free to do as you please even if you think that is what you paid for.

[rp001]

It is obvious to this reader that Sumter's Finest are well represented here..I've seen this topic come up before and there are a few die hard supporters of looting the cash cow...Makes Police work and revenue collection very easy...Folks justify the police presence by the law being on their side, however the presence is just taking away from the real problems..If there had been Moving Patrols at 2 am maybe those youngsters would have been pulled over before the accident..It's much easier to ticket during the day from a stationary place those that miss the speed limit by 5 mph...Makes all the economic sense in the world..I guess I don't understand "priorities" very well..Common sense does not prevail..