Actually they are violating Florida State law.


The state of Florida would and does disagree.....

If you see dogs on patios that concern you then follow the instructions below. Complaining on this site and even to the offenders does nothing but the health inspector will make a difference.

Even if they have the required permit there are many requirements they must meet which are outlined on the website link at the bottom and here.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/.../0509.233.html


Only Cody's has a permit
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Taken From Another Thread On This Subject:
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The responsive official from the Sumter (no p) County Government answered my email asking if any restaurants had permits for non-service dogs to be allowed in the outdoor dining areas. Only Cody's in LSL has such a permit. Here is his email:

Presently, Cody’s Road House in Lake Sumter Landings in The Villages is the only restaurant in Sumter County permitted under Section 13-735 of the Land Development Code. If you have observed dogs being allowed into outdoor dining areas in unpermitted restaurants, please advise me and I will contact the restaurant to advise them of the permit requirements. If you have visited Cody’s Road House and believe they are not complying with the requirements of their permit, please also let me know and I will assign an inspector to review their compliance.

If you have any additional questions, please contact me.
Karl E. Holley, AICP
Director of Development Services
Sumter County Board of Commissioners
7375 Powell Road
Wildwood, Florida 34785
(352) 689-4463
Sumter County, FL - Official Website


So for those who are unhappy with dogs, or possible lack of compliance with all the sanitary rules, you have your contact information.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/.../0509.233.html

The other thread you quoted is over 7 months old. Square 1 wasn't even open when that official's email was sent. Do you know for a fact that Square 1 has no permit? Because that is what you implied when you stated that only Cody's has a permit above the previous post.

My feelings exactly! Where do we draw the line?

Are they complying with all the requirements in the Florida State regs, NO.....I really don't give a $%^& myself but restaurants need to follow the laws, they were passed for a reason.

(If you're going to quote a post the font and color should stay as it was originally.)


From the Florida State Regulations:

(b) In order to protect the health, safety, and general welfare of the public, the local exemption procedure shall require participating public food service establishments to apply for and receive a permit from the governing body of the local government before allowing patrons’ dogs on their premises. The local government shall require from the applicant such information as the local government deems reasonably necessary to enforce the provisions of this section, but shall require, at a minimum, the following information:
1. The name, location, and mailing address of the public food service establishment.
2. The name, mailing address, and telephone contact information of the permit applicant.
3. A diagram and description of the outdoor area to be designated as available to patrons’ dogs, including dimensions of the designated area; a depiction of the number and placement of tables, chairs, and restaurant equipment, if any; the entryways and exits to the designated outdoor area; the boundaries of the designated area and of other areas of outdoor dining not available for patrons’ dogs; any fences or other barriers; surrounding property lines and public rights-of-way, including sidewalks and common pathways; and such other information reasonably required by the permitting authority. The diagram or plan shall be accurate and to scale but need not be prepared by a licensed design professional.
4. A description of the days of the week and hours of operation that patrons’ dogs will be permitted in the designated outdoor area.
(c) In order to protect the health, safety, and general welfare of the public, the local exemption ordinance shall include such regulations and limitations as deemed necessary by the participating local government and shall include, but not be limited to, the following requirements:
1. All public food service establishment employees shall wash their hands promptly after touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs. Employees shall be prohibited from touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs while serving food or beverages or handling tableware or before entering other parts of the public food service establishment.
2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.
3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.
4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.
5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.
6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.
7. Accidents involving dog waste shall be cleaned immediately and the area sanitized with an approved product. A kit with the appropriate materials for this purpose shall be kept near the designated outdoor area.
8. A sign or signs reminding employees of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
9. A sign or signs reminding patrons of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
10. A sign or signs shall be posted in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority that places the public on notice that the designated outdoor area is available for the use of patrons and patrons’ dogs.
11. Dogs shall not be permitted to travel through indoor or nondesignated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment, and ingress and egress to the designated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment must not require entrance into or passage through any indoor area of the food establishment.
(d) A permit issued pursuant to this section shall not be transferred to a subsequent owner upon the sale of a public food service establishment but shall expire automatically upon the sale of the establishment. The subsequent owner shall be required to reapply for a permit pursuant to this section if the subsequent owner wishes to continue to accommodate patrons’ dogs.
(4) POWERS; ENFORCEMENT.—Participating local governments shall have such powers as are reasonably necessary to regulate and enforce the provisions of this section.

I'm wondering how you know that Square 1 doesn't have a permit. Maybe you called the proper agency, I don't know. Did not go back and read all ten pages of this thread. But I have been following the thread of and on and don't recall if anyone ascertained for sure that they don't have a patio permit.

I'm also wondering what TOTV rule it is that says you can't change the color or font on a quoted post.

As I said I don't care whether they do or don't have a permit but for sure they have not complied with all the requirements to have a permit so likely they don't.

A QUOTE, is just that, what's the point of changing it..don't need a rule for everything, somethings we should just know..

Well, if there is no rule, I guess you can apply whatever color or font you want. You're just quoting the text.

If Square 1 has a permit, they are not violating FL law. Unless someone has asked, you can't be sure they have not complied with the requirements. You're saying they aren't complying with FL law, but you don't have proof of that. So saying "for sure they have not complied with the law" is a statement not backed up by facts.

Exactly what rules are they supposedly breaking?

Given they in fact have a permit.

:blahblahblah: Never stops, I'm done, do whatever, unless they are following all these requirements which they are not they are breaking Florida State law...EVEN IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT

1. All public food service establishment employees shall wash their hands promptly after touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs. Employees shall be prohibited from touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs while serving food or beverages or handling tableware or before entering other parts of the public food service establishment.
2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.
3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.
4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.
5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.
6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.
7. Accidents involving dog waste shall be cleaned immediately and the area sanitized with an approved product. A kit with the appropriate materials for this purpose shall be kept near the designated outdoor area.
8. A sign or signs reminding employees of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
9. A sign or signs reminding patrons of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
10. A sign or signs shall be posted in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority that places the public on notice that the designated outdoor area is available for the use of patrons and patrons’ dogs.
11. Dogs shall not be permitted to travel through indoor or nondesignated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment, and ingress and egress to the designated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment must not require entrance into or passage through any indoor area of the food establishment.
(d) A permit issued pursuant to this section shall not be transferred to a subsequent owner upon the sale of a public food service establishment but shall expire automatically upon the sale of the establishment. The subsequent owner shall be required to reapply for a permit pursuant to this section if the subsequent owner wishes to continue to accommodate patrons’ dogs.
(4) POWERS; ENFORCEMENT.—Participating local governments shall have such powers as are reasonably necessary to regulate and enforce the provisions of this section.

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What rules? You keeps saying they are breaking rules. If they have a permit, what rules are they breaking?

You have a lot of words for not saying much.

One last time.....maybe you missed this the other times.......having a permit requires compliance with all the items below...

Here is the official site again:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/.../0509.233.html


1. All public food service establishment employees shall wash their hands promptly after touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs. Employees shall be prohibited from touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs while serving food or beverages or handling tableware or before entering other parts of the public food service establishment.
2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.
3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.
4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.
5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.
6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.
7. Accidents involving dog waste shall be cleaned immediately and the area sanitized with an approved product. A kit with the appropriate materials for this purpose shall be kept near the designated outdoor area.
8. A sign or signs reminding employees of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
9. A sign or signs reminding patrons of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.
10. A sign or signs shall be posted in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority that places the public on notice that the designated outdoor area is available for the use of patrons and patrons’ dogs.
11. Dogs shall not be permitted to travel through indoor or nondesignated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment, and ingress and egress to the designated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment must not require entrance into or passage through any indoor area of the food establishment.
(d) A permit issued pursuant to this section shall not be transferred to a subsequent owner upon the sale of a public food service establishment but shall expire automatically upon the sale of the establishment. The subsequent owner shall be required to reapply for a permit pursuant to this section if the subsequent owner wishes to continue to accommodate patrons’ dogs.
(4) POWERS; ENFORCEMENT.—Participating local governments shall have such powers as are reasonably necessary to regulate and enforce the provisions of this section.

Wow, some people have waaayyyy toooo much time on their hands.
Just sayin' !!
Hope everyone has a good night. Be it with dogs or without ! :thumbup:

No, we didn't miss your post encouraging people to report patio offenders to State Regulators.
You've posted the identical information many, many times. :sigh:

This kind of nonsense is why we have so few non-chain type of restaurants. IMO, only the chains have the staff and ability to be buried in paperwork and have the public being encouraged to call the county and file complaints.

I really feel for the little guys who dream of owning their own restaurant, research and decide to come to TV. Not only do they have to try to satisfy a diverse palate but try to satisfy the high expectations and low prices crowd.

I just hope that one day these corporate entities hold people legally responsible for posting untrue assertations that laws are being broken and the public health threatened.

Not the reason we don't have more non chain restaurants but that is another topic. Nonsense is taking dogs to a restaurant where other people would like to go and eat a meal without having to put up with dogs. Unfortunately the law does allow it if conditions are met but apparently that is asking too much and at least some dog owners don't even agree that these rules should be followed. Have a permit and following all the requirements listed then all is good. If the sanitation rules are all being complied with then no one can complain or object other than by not going to the restaurant.
Trying to cater to dog owner's is what causes paperwork, no dogs allowed = no paperwork required. Want to cater to dog owners then just follow the required rules, they were written by the state of Florida for a reason and most people want them enforced and not just to be ignored like so many other laws.