[Rocksnap]

Here we go again. First, NYC bans new gas ranges. Now, starting March there is a ban on NG water heaters nationwide. This affects pretty much every new construction house in TV. Last I checked, NG tankless water heaters are very small, and mounted on an outside wall. Now TV will need to relocate a traditional ELECTRIC hot water storage tank somewhere inside the house, taking up valuable interior space. NG tankless water heaters are also very energy efficient, so their demise can’t be blamed on saving the planet. But it can be blamed on backward thinking. Yes I’m a little perplexed by this new ruling. I’m also betting TV builders are livid.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Here we go again. First, NYC bans new gas ranges. Now, starting March there is a ban on NG water heaters. This affects pretty much every new construction house in TV. Last I checked, NG tankless water heaters are very small, and mounted on an outside wall. Now TV will need to relocate a traditional ELECTRIC hot water storage tank somewhere inside the house, taking up valuable interior space. NG tankless water heaters are also very energy efficient, so their demise can’t be blamed on saving the planet. But it can be blamed on backward thinking. Yes I’m a little perplexed by this new ruling. I’m also betting TV builders are livid.

Had that directive in UK for some years now.
All new construction installing all electric, air source, ground-source heat pump system, solar, most of which cost a fortune to instal, run at a lot higher price than gas, and really do nothing for the environment.
But.
Someone is making a lot of money, mainly the Chinese, as most of the stuff is made there.
Meanwhile, China brings on many new coal-fired power stations every year!

[Rainger99]

Although the effective date of this rule is March 11, 2025, compliance is required on and after December 26, 2029.

I doubt that it will become effective.

[ltcdfancher]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Now, starting March there is a ban on NG water heaters nationwide. This affects pretty much every new construction house in TV. Yes I’m a little perplexed by this new ruling. I’m also betting TV builders are livid.

The proposed ban will affect NON-condensing tankless heaters. My wife and I sat down two months ago with the design team for our new home in Well Point. We left with a packet showing some of the installed appliances. The specification sheet on our tankless water heater is titled, “Raheem IKONIC Super High Efficiency Condensing Tankless Water Heater.”

There is no need, IMO, to worry about this ban at all…for us Villagers, anyway.

[Pondboy]

If it helps save the planet then I’m all in. If it costs a bit more, so what? We’ve known since the 1970’s that burning fossil fuels are bad for the environment….yet here we are still being selfish.

What kind of world are you leaving your children’s children?

All to save a few bucks.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Pondboy

If it helps save the planet then I’m all in. If it costs a bit more, so what? We’ve known since the 1970’s that burning fossil fuels are bad for the environment….yet here we are still being selfish.

What kind of world are you leaving your children’s children?

All to save a few bucks.

Overall, pretty much the same world that has been here for the last 4.5 billion years. Over that time there have been many changes, but it's still here. I don't know how the planet survived without the so called "environmentalists" to "save" it. Amazing how some people buy into the some of the populist agendas hook, line and sinker

[Kelevision]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Here we go again. First, NYC bans new gas ranges. Now, starting March there is a ban on NG water heaters nationwide. This affects pretty much every new construction house in TV. Last I checked, NG tankless water heaters are very small, and mounted on an outside wall. Now TV will need to relocate a traditional ELECTRIC hot water storage tank somewhere inside the house, taking up valuable interior space. NG tankless water heaters are also very energy efficient, so their demise can’t be blamed on saving the planet. But it can be blamed on backward thinking. Yes I’m a little perplexed by this new ruling. I’m also betting TV builders are livid.

Branch out and read non-biased sites….. get the real story instead of just trying to be mad all the time. Literally says it doesn’t apply to tankless water heaters.

The update—the first to be made to the standards since 2010—“would result in over 50% of the newly manufactured electric storage water heaters to utilize heat pump technology, compared to 3% today.”

The Department of Energy estimates that the new rule, which is set to go into effect in 2029, will save consumers $124 billion over 30 years of shipments.
It applies to gas- and oil-fired heaters, as well as larger electric storage water heaters.

It does not apply to tankless water heaters.

[CarlR33]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Now TV will need to relocate a traditional ELECTRIC hot water storage tank somewhere inside the house, taking up valuable interior space.

LOL, maybe google (a search engine) tankless ELECTRIC water heaters?? I guess you get your space back in the house.