[KeepingItReal]

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[BobnBev]

I'm surprised at Lt. Caruthers statement. It take more than one person to move,
load, and then unload a heavy stove.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by BobnBev

I'm surprised at Lt. Caruthers statement. It take more than one person to move,
load, and then unload a heavy stove.

Two wheel dolly with a strap would probably get the job done with one healthy person.

Bill

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

I would have to wonder about an appliance store that would continue to buy these stoves when they should have known there was a problem with multiple $500 stoves for $150..whatever happened to the charge of knowingly purchasing/receiving stolen property?

Police: Stove thief arrested
Published: Thursday, January 24, 2013
WILDWOOD
MILLARD K. IVES | Staff Writer
millardives@dailycommercial.com
This stove had features anyone would want -- with the exception of a thief.
Sumter County Sheriff's Officials said they have stopped a string of stove thefts from homes under construction in The Villages after a tracking device they had installed in one the appliances pointed them in the direction of the alleged thief.
James M. Strawder, 28, a laborer who worked on homes in the area, was charged last week with seven counts of burglary to a dwelling and nine counts of grand theft. He was released Friday on $76,000 bail.
Sheriff's Lt. Bobby Caruthers said the stoves started disappearing in homes being built in a neighborhood of The Villages outside of Wildwood in September of last year. The streets included Kimberwicke Avenue, Hillstream Street, Tearbarry and Brinkley lanes.
By December, nine had been stolen.
"We knew it wasn't an isolated incident," Caruthers said.
So, detectives began installing GPS tracking devices in some of the stoves. They had no luck until Jan. 4, when they
received a report that a stove stolen from a home on Kimberwicke had one of their tracking devices. The signal led them to Frederick's Appliances in Belleview, where the owner told detectives he had purchased a number of $500 stoves for $150 each from a man later identified as Strawder.
According to sheriff's detective Josh Greenwood, Strawder worked as a laborer in the area and had access to a master key of the homes in which the ovens were stolen.
Strawder was arrested at an industrial park in Wildwood. Caruthers said he appeared to be working alone in the thefts.

Here is an old thread on the same kind of theft.
Three arrested in Villages burglaries.

[asianthree]

frigerator disappeared out of our new house before we closed they had to replace it

[2BNTV]

I'm glad he got burnt in the end.

[batman911]

This is one of the main reasons I try to repair things in our home rather than calling a repair person. I believe most of the thefts from homes are either connected to repair/construction people in the neighborhood or people you know and have let into your home. They already know what you have, where it is and if you have a security system. They can also get a good idea of your daily schedule through general conversation. Be careful who you let into your home and be especially vigilant in new neighborhoods where there is construction traffic.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by batman911

This is one of the main reasons I try to repair things in our home rather than calling a repair person. I believe most of the thefts from homes are either connected to repair/construction people in the neighborhood or people you know and have let into your home. They already know what you have, where it is and if you have a security system. They can also get a good idea of your daily schedule through general conversation. Be careful who you let into your home and be especially vigilant in new neighborhoods where there is construction traffic.

I think the thefts of appliances being discussed were all in new construction homes before anyone moved in.

[l2ridehd]

I guess I also blame the person who bought the stoves. One maybe, two highly suspicious, 8 to 10 and he had to know they were stolen. I have used Fredrick's for appliance service a couple times, but they just lost me for a customer. I will not use them again.

[Bogie Shooter]

Isn't there a charge for receiving stolen property??

[Roaddog53]

And you believe that some guy goes to a house with a dolly, gets out of his truck, opens the door with a dolly, disconnects the stove, loads it on the dolly, than takes it to his truck...pickup, van, and "lifts" it from the dolly onto the bed of the truck.. Lmao. Maybe he just carried it on his back. Or.. He had a forklift. Don't pay attention to what they tell you in the media, who can not get any story straight, OR what the cop says. There is more to this story.
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[l2ridehd]

Moving a stove by one person with a dolly is actually quite easy. A long time ago I used to deliver appliances for a store. Alone, with an appliance dolly and a pick up truck. Stoves were the easiest. Washers were hard. Refrigerators were the hardest. But again have moved a refrigerator from the store, delivered it to an apartment on the third floor (no elevator) and removed the old one. Now 45 years ago when I did this, those refrigerators were smaller then today, but were still heavy.

Even at my age today, I would not hesitate to move a stove by myself using a good dolly and a pickup truck. In fact about two years ago, did it. So yes a young in decent shape guy could do this very easily working alone. I would also guess he was working with someone, just to do it faster, or have a look out. But he could also do it alone.

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by KeepingItReal

I would have to wonder about an appliance store that would continue to buy these stoves when they should have known there was a problem with multiple $500 stoves for $150..whatever happened to the charge of knowingly purchasing/receiving stolen property?

Police: Stove thief arrested
Published: Thursday, January 24, 2013
WILDWOOD
MILLARD K. IVES | Staff Writer
millardives@dailycommercial.com
This stove had features anyone would want -- with the exception of a thief.
Sumter County Sheriff's Officials said they have stopped a string of stove thefts from homes under construction in The Villages after a tracking device they had installed in one the appliances pointed them in the direction of the alleged thief.
James M. Strawder, 28, a laborer who worked on homes in the area, was charged last week with seven counts of burglary to a dwelling and nine counts of grand theft. He was released Friday on $76,000 bail.
Sheriff's Lt. Bobby Caruthers said the stoves started disappearing in homes being built in a neighborhood of The Villages outside of Wildwood in September of last year. The streets included Kimberwicke Avenue, Hillstream Street, Tearbarry and Brinkley lanes.
By December, nine had been stolen.
"We knew it wasn't an isolated incident," Caruthers said.
So, detectives began installing GPS tracking devices in some of the stoves. They had no luck until Jan. 4, when they
received a report that a stove stolen from a home on Kimberwicke had one of their tracking devices. The signal led them to Frederick's Appliances in Belleview, where the owner told detectives he had purchased a number of $500 stoves for $150 each from a man later identified as Strawder.
According to sheriff's detective Josh Greenwood, Strawder worked as a laborer in the area and had access to a master key of the homes in which the ovens were stolen.
Strawder was arrested at an industrial park in Wildwood. Caruthers said he appeared to be working alone in the thefts.

Thanks for posting that...........and "keeping it real".

[senior citizen]

Originally Posted by batman911

This is one of the main reasons I try to repair things in our home rather than calling a repair person. I believe most of the thefts from homes are either connected to repair/construction people in the neighborhood or people you know and have let into your home. They already know what you have, where it is and if you have a security system. They can also get a good idea of your daily schedule through general conversation. Be careful who you let into your home and be especially vigilant in new neighborhoods where there is construction traffic.

Words of wisdom........and excellent advice.

Up until approximately a decade ago, we'd think nothing of going for our walks and leaving all the doors to our home open. That's how safe our town was.

Perhaps it's the media coverage of all the unsavory "stuff" going on in our world, but we now make sure to lock up.

Whenever we have home renovations done, we feel fairly safe in that we've known the same contractor since his boyhood......ditto for our landscaper......since he was a newborn infant. Know the families, etc.
Good "salt of the earth" upstanding families and good young adults.

However, often they have to hire on "extra workers" to do various "day labor" and it's then that I'm more concerned.

Lately, I've been thinking that when we go away for a month or more and tell the paper carrier to "hold our papers" or the mailmen to "hold our mail", lots of people know the home is vacant.

Just have to keep our trust in the majority.

Years ago I would let everyone right into the front foyer.....whether they were collecting for various charities or if they were Green Peace volunteers or college kids trying to make some tuition money........not so anymore.........which is sad when I think about it.

A lot of people feel crime has escalated due to the need to fund drug habits. Again, sad.

Anyone familiar with that "home invasion" in Connecticut of the doctor's wife, two daughters, etc.........nice tranquil neighborhood such as we live in now..........knows what I'm talking about. It can happen and it does happen..........no matter where one lives. Cheshire, CT. looked to be the quintessential lovely place to raise a family. Does anyone know what happened to those ex cons? Probably both on death row, which will take 25 years..........

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Moving a stove by one person with a dolly is actually quite easy. A long time ago I used to deliver appliances for a store. Alone, with an appliance dolly and a pick up truck. Stoves were the easiest. Washers were hard. Refrigerators were the hardest. But again have moved a refrigerator from the store, delivered it to an apartment on the third floor (no elevator) and removed the old one. Now 45 years ago when I did this, those refrigerators were smaller then today, but were still heavy.

Even at my age today, I would not hesitate to move a stove by myself using a good dolly and a pickup truck. In fact about two years ago, did it. So yes a young in decent shape guy could do this very easily working alone. I would also guess he was working with someone, just to do it faster, or have a look out. But he could also do it alone.

Just bumping this. Thanks Bill and Chris for calm logic.