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Bill-n-Brillo 10-19-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonChick (Post 300502)
How are we supposed to know that we're speeding, when there's no speedometer?

Good point. I guess I liken it to freeway driving. I might be speeding, for example, but figure I'm less likely to get stopped if a.) I'm not at the front or rear of a pack of vehicles traveling at essentially the same speed and b.) I'm "going with the flow" - not cutting in and out, tailgating, or passing everyone.

Suggestion: If you've got a GPS that will run on battery power, take it along on a short cart ride. If you don't have one, perhaps you could borrow one from a friend or neighbor. Check your speed going uphill, downhill, and on level ground, all with the go-pedal matted. If you're topping 20 mph, try also backing off til you're going 19 mph and feel the difference. After using a variety of carts over time, I've kinda gotten a bit of a feel for what general speed I'm probably going. I clocked the last cart we rented with our GPS - it topped out at 26-27 on level ground. Slowing down to 19 was a VERY noticable difference.

Bill

RichieLion 10-19-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 300425)
Here's what I find interesting in reading the posts on this thread. If I look at the average age thread, 65% of those that responded are between the ages of 55 and 64...this is MY GENERATION... This is the same generation that went to Woodstock, drove hot Cameros and Mustangs, drag raced down main street and some might have even tried the pharmaceuticals along the way :p What happened ????

Now, we seem to think that a golf cart going 25 MPH is a huge hazard and we feel so much better that the Sheriff's Dept. is out in full force handing out citations. There seems to be so much drama, always citing the worse case scenario... ie. someone is going to get killed... loose their home and life savings, etc....

Sorry, I just don't get it :shrug:

Thank God!!; I'm not alone. I haven't posted on this thread because I figured I'd get reamed if I suggested that the other posters were kinda, well, fuddy-duddy. Rock on Memason, Rock ON!!:pepper2::beer3::pepper2:

The Great Fumar 10-19-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by foxmeadow (Post 300409)
Now that the police are cracking down on speeding golf carts, I feel sooooooo
much safer. Excuse me, but the only thing I see accomplished is about $14,000 in the county coffer's. It didn't rid us of the underage driver's, the people with small children on their laps while driving, the towels covering the rear tail lights, too many bodies in a 2 passenger cart, failing to signal turns, turning left from the far right hand lane and on and on. The reason I am so cynical is due to the police power being used while we continue to see homes being burglarized, articles being stolen from carts in broad daylight, autos left in driveways in the evening being broken into, golf courses being vandalized, etc. Those of you who get so worked up at carts passing you, probably fear they will get an open parking spot at the square, or, worse yet, a chair at the square that you might have gotten if the line of carts would just stay behind you. You are the cart going 16 mph, but you are safer??? Maybe they just had to get to the 2 for 1 before it closed. Sorry, I do not see carts that go 5 mph over the speed limit as a major problem, nor the value in the appropriation of police manpower.

You are right on the money .....How about police addressing the real crime in the area instead of staying here in the villages where its safe and writing tickets to gram-ma and grampa.............No wonder some are losing respect for police officers....

downeaster 10-19-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 300524)
You are right on the money .....How about police addressing the real crime in the area instead of staying here in the villages where its safe and writing tickets to gram-ma and grampa.............No wonder some are losing respect for police officers....

The Sun is doing a pretty good job covering all the news here. I am reading more of the police activity. Seems they are doing a pretty good job on "real" crime as well as attempting to keep our streets safe.

The problem of addressing real crime is it is not something they necessarily look for. It is usually a case of responding. They don't know when some thug is going to rob a convenience store, for example. But they are catching that thug with some regularity. They are making drug busts. They are catching DUI violators, parole violators and other bad types. We don't seem to have a problem here with burglaries but we did a few years back. The police seemed to have handled that well.

Addressing traffic law violators is another matter. They look for them. They are finding plenty of them. There is nothing wrong, in my opinion, expending time and money keeping our streets safer by enforcing traffic laws.

I, for one, am not one who has lost any respect for the police. To the contrary, I have gained respect.

BTW, what "real crime in the area" are they not addressing?

Ajack 10-19-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 300514)
Thank God!!; I'm not alone. I haven't posted on this thread because I figured I'd get reamed if I suggested that the other posters were kinda, well, fuddy-duddy. Rock on Memason, Rock ON!!:pepper2::beer3::pepper2:

I am on the Memason and RichieLion's side of the proverbial fence. :clap2:

Bill-n-Brillo 10-19-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 300562)
I am on the Memason and RichieLion's side of the proverbial fence. :clap2:

I sense a growing trend here.............. :)

Bill

Ajack 10-19-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 300323)
Any cart rental company that rents carts that can exceed 19mph should be forced to rectify this.

The majority of people renting these carts are out-of-towners renting homes in TV. As such, these people would not know about the 19mph rule and when they cited for “unregistered vehicle” they were most likely driving well under the posted speed limit, which is 30-35 mph.

Speedometers would solve the problem. Would not want a governor on my car or my golf cart. Don't like 3.2 beer, either.

golfnut 10-19-2010 10:15 PM

My car will do 150 MPH but I haven't received a speeding ticket while driving it....gn

redwitch 10-19-2010 11:21 PM

Was going towards Laurel Manor this morning -- they had the speed check things out. I was going 22 one way and 17 on my way back -- was getting my phone out at the time. I'd guess my normal speed is between 21 and 22 given this morning's example.

Asd to memason, et al. -- we all did foolish things in our youth. Some were seriously illegal and many were extremely dangerous. We've grown up. We now understand the repercussions of some of our choices. Do I care if you speed in your cart or car? Not particularly, as long as you don't fight the ticket when you get it and you drive safely and are truly aware of your surroundings. I have a serious lead foot. I don't try to talk my way out of a ticket and, if the officer chooses to give me one, I don't fight it. I made the choice to speed and I'll take the consequences.

Personally, I'd love to see the cops test everyone who drives a car or cart out of the town squares at 9:00 pm. Drinking and driving scares me --especially when you consider we've already lost reflexes because of aging. To my mind, that's a lot more dangerous than the speeding.

memason 10-19-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 300568)
My car will do 150 MPH but I haven't received a speeding ticket while driving it....gn

Lucky you! Can you "honestly" tell us that you never exceed the speed limit in your car ???

Just keeping it real here.....

NJblue 10-20-2010 12:47 AM

I'm not sure where the notion comes from where the speed in someone else's golf cart equals excess danger for me. I have been passed by many golf carts and not once did I feel that the passing golf cart was jeopardizing my safety. I will grant that they may be jeopardizing their own safety, but I don't see the point of wasting tax dollars on trying to keep people safe who choose not to do so themselves.

To me, worrying about a golf cart going a few MPH faster than mine ranks right up there with my concern about bicyclists that roll through stop signs (which also gets a lot of electrons flowing on this board). Sometimes it seems like people get more upset about the fact that a law might be broken than whether it truly has any impact on themselves.

chacam 10-20-2010 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 300575)
Was going towards Laurel Manor this morning -- they had the speed check things out. I was going 22 one way and 17 on my way back -- was getting my phone out at the time.

You weren't thinking of using your phone while you were driving, were you ? ?

getdul981 10-20-2010 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by memason (Post 300576)
Lucky you! Can you "honestly" tell us that you never exceed the speed limit in your car ???

Just keeping it real here.....

He didn't say he didn't speed. Just that he hadn't received a ticket. Probably never caught. I have only had 1 speeding ticket and Lord knows that I've certainly deserved many, just lucky I wasn't caught.

gratton 10-20-2010 06:14 AM

I too can't understand why someone gets all in a huffy when you pass them going a whopping 20 or 21 mph. Where's the danger there, Back when I was on the job we use to run radar and gave a 10 mph tolerance in the city where the speed limit on the city streets is 30 mph.That was the case except in school zones. It just doesn't make since why someone gets all in a fit when you pass them, Do they get mad when a bike passes them . Like a lot of poster's say your car will go a lot faster than the speed limit but you don't go that fast except maybe to pass. Believe me going a whopping 20 0r 23 mph is not really speeding. I've been passed by a bike and there not breaking any speed limit and I don't get mad I just wave and go on my merry way enjoying living here where we can drive a golf cart and enjoy the fresh air.

chuckster 10-20-2010 06:52 AM

well said gratton...agree with all you pointed out, don't sweat the small stuff, enjoy life. There certainly are bigger issues to worry about if that is how one wants to spend their time.

Shirleevee 10-20-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 300396)
Shirleevee - I just sent you a PM.

Bill

I sent you a reply, thanks

sandybill2 10-20-2010 07:27 AM

We have a Club Car--have used GPS and the fastest it will go is 19 mph. Doesn't bother me---nor my husband--we are in no hurry. The only issue I have with the faster carts is the braking system. The carts usually only have rear wheel brakes and they are not designed to stop a cart going faster than the 19 mph. Will certainly make it hard to stop safely and properly in an emergency situation. We have no plans to "soup" ours up. We all have experience with being passed, etc., by the faster carts. I was on my way to Walmart on 466--a very slow cart in front of me--I just hung back--no hurry---They stopped at the stop sign in front on Bealls---I stopped behind them waiting my turn--a "faster" cart swooped around us both--just as the cart in front of me had started through the intersection and before I had even had time to do my "proper stop" at sign before proceeding. The same cart was on my "tail" the entire trip--through the tunnel, etc. This is my issue--not necessarily his speed but his obvious disregard for laws, and my safety and that of others.

Ajack 10-20-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chacam (Post 300591)
You weren't thinking of using your phone while you were driving, were you ? ?

Don't get me started on that issue. Wife and I just drove 1500 miles to get here and and we played a little game to pass the time. Every time a vehicle drove a little erratic ( or tailgate, going too slow etc.) we would check to see if they were on the phone. I would say that 80% of them were yaking on the cell.
In my humble opinion, distractions, not speed, is the problem on the roads.

Russ_Boston 10-20-2010 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 300387)
When we were there last month, I told my wife that I truly believe my riding lawnmower would go faster.

If you ask nicely they will provide a cart that gets up to 20mph. We let them know that we weren't new in town. We got one that might even exceed 20 but how are we to know without a meter? We weren't passing people but we could have.

Russ_Boston 10-20-2010 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 300581)
To me, worrying about a golf cart going a few MPH faster than mine ranks right up there with my concern about bicyclists that roll through stop signs (which also gets a lot of electrons flowing on this board). Sometimes it seems like people get more upset about the fact that a law might be broken than whether it truly has any impact on themselves.


Well said IMHO.

Talk Host 10-20-2010 07:46 AM

Will you be impacted when a cart, with inadequate brakes, going 28 miles an hour plows into you? :throwtomatoes:

Last summer, I was riding my bike (after stopping at the stop sign) near Glenview CC. I was on my side of the street and a golf cart, going well over the limit, came around the bend toward me. He was going too fast to negotiate the slight curve in the roadand was unable to stay in his own lane. He came into my lane, toward me and actually was up onto the two left wheels of the cart. (the right wheels were off the ground) He nearly flipped it over right in front of me. I hit the curb trying to avoid him.

He never stopped or offered an apology, just kept going with the petal to the metal.

JLK

sandybill2 10-20-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 300616)
Will you be impacted when a cart, with inadequate brakes, going 28 miles an hour plows into you? :throwtomatoes:

Last summer, I was riding my bike (after stopping at the stop sign) near Glenview CC. I was on my side of the street and a golf cart, going well over the limit, came around the bend toward me. He was going too fast to negotiate the slight curve in the roadand was unable to stay in his own lane. He came into my lane, toward me and actually was up onto the two left wheels of the cart. (the right wheels were off the ground) He nearly flipped it over right in front of me. I hit the curb trying to avoid him.

He never stopped or offered an apology, just kept going with the petal to the metal.

JLK

Glad you weren't hurt but know it was a frightening experience for you. That is another reason that speed in carts is dangerous--they will flip over in turns that are negotiated too fast. Even carts that only go 19 can be dangerous if not slowed down to negotiate turns. Have you noticed how many of the plastic dividers are damaged--I can't imagine how much that costs us each year!

J & J plus M 10-20-2010 08:35 AM

Golf cart parking
 
Just wondering why common courtesy goes out the window when it comes to parking golf carts at the squares. We were at Lake Sumpter Landing last night to hear Rocky & the Rollers. We were lucky enough to get a curb side parking spot, went walking around to see what was for sale, and by the time we got back an unoccupied golf cart was parked behind us blocking our exit. No big deal... we weren't ready to leave anyway. Before the evening was over, I had to help push two nearby unoccupied golf carts that were blocking people that wanted to leave. Now, I understand that parking is at a premium when there is a good band plus market night at the squares BUT what makes people think they can inconvenience others. Would they do the same thing if they were driving their cars???? Seems to me that the people that pull their carts up to the curb are being thoughtful and courteous by sharing their parking spot ( allowing four carts to park between the white lines instead of two). In the past, I couldn't understand why some of those people would't pull all the way up to the curb to share their parking spot....... NOW I KNOW... from now on, I'll be one of those people!!!!!!! P.S. If someone is willing to stay with their cart, I'd be more than happy to share MY parking space.

Russ_Boston 10-20-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by J & J plus M (Post 300623)
If someone is willing to stay with their cart, I'd be more than happy to share MY parking space.

That just makes too much sense.

ajbrown 10-20-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by J & J plus M (Post 300623)
Just wondering why common courtesy goes out the window when it comes to parking golf carts at the squares. We were at Lake Sumpter Landing last night to hear Rocky & the Rollers. We were lucky enough to get a curb side parking spot, went walking around to see what was for sale, and by the time we got back an unoccupied golf cart was parked behind us blocking our exit. No big deal... we weren't ready to leave anyway. Before the evening was over, I had to help push two nearby unoccupied golf carts that were blocking people that wanted to leave. Now, I understand that parking is at a premium when there is a good band plus market night at the squares BUT what makes people think they can inconvenience others. Would they do the same thing if they were driving their cars???? Seems to me that the people that pull their carts up to the curb are being thoughtful and courteous by sharing their parking spot ( allowing four carts to park between the white lines instead of two). In the past, I couldn't understand why some of those people would't pull all the way up to the curb to share their parking spot....... NOW I KNOW... from now on, I'll be one of those people!!!!!!! P.S. If someone is willing to stay with their cart, I'd be more than happy to share MY parking space.

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dillywho 10-20-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 300616)
Will you be impacted when a cart, with inadequate brakes, going 28 miles an hour plows into you? :throwtomatoes:

Last summer, I was riding my bike (after stopping at the stop sign) near Glenview CC. I was on my side of the street and a golf cart, going well over the limit, came around the bend toward me. He was going too fast to negotiate the slight curve in the roadand was unable to stay in his own lane. He came into my lane, toward me and actually was up onto the two left wheels of the cart. (the right wheels were off the ground) He nearly flipped it over right in front of me. I hit the curb trying to avoid him.

He never stopped or offered an apology, just kept going with the petal to the metal.

JLK

Good post. This points out exactly that there could be safety issues just like with the underage kids operating carts.

Does anything bad happen that often? No. When it does, though, it can be devastating or even deadly. I, for one, do not understand the "need for speed". Just leave earlier and enjoy the ride.

EdV 10-20-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 784caroline (Post 300510)
EdVinMass

You make statements as if you are an authority on the subject....Are you? If not, why then does law enforcement not make the same recommendation as you!!

Where have you read that they officially recommend against using seat belts on golf carts?

vj1213 10-20-2010 03:21 PM

When I bought my golf cart, I actually took it back twice to complain that it was too slow...everyone it seemed was passing me and leaving me behind. On both occasions I was told my cart was bouncing between 19 & 21 mph. I have also hooked my gps to it to test speed and sure enough I am right at 20. Fine! I don't care that you pass me, but don't cuss me or give me a dirty look because you are in such a hurry. The other day I was walking my little dog, this golf cart carrying 2 men whips out heading straight toward me at a high speed, well sorry I'm not going to jump the curb and jerk my dog into the weeds, there was traffic so he had to slow and he stopped beside me and said, "good thing I'm not in too big a hurry cause I would hate to run over your little dog" I just smiled and said " yeah, and I would hate to jerk you off that cart and whack you upside the head with one of your golf clubs"

Ajack 10-20-2010 04:01 PM

"I just smiled and said " yeah, and I would hate to jerk you off that cart and whack you upside the head with one of your golf clubs"




:1rotfl: Good one. :evil6:

vj1213 10-20-2010 04:29 PM

No-one messes with my dog :a20:

thistrucksforyou 10-20-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 300254)
:police: Wooooooooo-wooooooooo...... "Yonta pull it on ovah there? Y'all ain't from around here, ah ya....boy??? Hands on the hood, son - feet back and spread 'em!!" :laugh:

Bill

I find this funny......On one thread the complaint was to slow on the golf course and on this one to fast on the cart path.....LOL:loco:

Ajack 10-20-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vj1213 (Post 300740)
No-one messes with my dog :a20:

We will soon move into our CYV in Pennecamp and looking for a doggy for our very own. :beer3:

iandwk 10-20-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 300696)
Where have you read that they officially recommend against using seat belts on golf carts?

Has anyone attended the golf cart safety seminar? It was explained to us at the seminar this morning at Savannah Center that they don't install seat belts on golf carts because of the fact they are not protected by a roll bar. If they roll over and you are buckled in, you stand a good chance of being crushed. The street legals have roll bar protection and require seat belts.

It was also explained that 20 mph is nothing but a safety issue because golf carts are engineered with suspensions and brakes and steering designed to operate at 20mph or less. If you are caught speeding, you must appear in court, no option. $253 court costs, pay to have your cart put back into compliance, and the judge usually waives the fine. You get points off your license, also.

It was also explained that there is not a speed limit on multi-modal trails, so soup yours up if you desire and drive as fast as it will go. If you're like me, though, you will eventually get caught going too fast on neighborhood streets because it's just too easy to drive one as fast as it will go.

There was an Allstate agent there, also. She said that when a cart they insure is involved in an accident, the first thing they look for is whether or not the cart has been modified to go faster than the legal limit. If it has, they will not pay the claim. That can get expensive if you caused property and personal damages. Kiss retirement good-bye. Your pension will likely be used to pay your legal bills and claims.

FMF Doc 10-20-2010 04:47 PM

Maybe Allstate can do one of their next "Mayhem" commercials in The Villages involving golf carts.

Bill-n-Brillo 10-20-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vj1213 (Post 300710)
I just smiled and said " yeah, and I would hate to jerk you off that cart and whack you upside the head with one of your golf clubs"

Give it to 'em, vj!! :boxing2: :)

Bill

golfnut 10-20-2010 06:54 PM

iandwk I hear you but I would be interested to know if anyone has a golf cart policy issued through Allstate what does it state about speed, it has to be stated in the policy document I believe...gn

iaudit 10-20-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by golfnut (Post 300790)
iandwk I hear you but I would be interested to know if anyone has a golf cart policy issued through Allstate what does it state about speed, it has to be stated in the policy document I believe...gn

I would think that once the golf cart exceeds 20 MPH, it is no longer considered a "golf cart" and therefore no longer covered as one by the insurance policy.

vj1213 10-20-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 300744)
We will soon move into our CYV in Pennecamp and looking for a doggy for our very own. :beer3:

When you get here look me up, I am in Buttonwood so right down Triggerfish

Ajack 10-20-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vj1213 (Post 300808)
When you get here look me up, I am in Buttonwood so right down Triggerfish

Hi neighbor,we are at Amberjack Villa's. Bring your pooch over and say "hi" ( but wait 2 weeks for us to sign)

golfnut 10-20-2010 08:03 PM

iaudit, i understand what you think and totally agree with you but i was just looking for someone that might have their allstate policy handy that might be able to clear the air, as a side note if you are involved a golf cart accident how would it be proven that you were going 22MPH as opposed to 19.9MPH ....gn


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