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And your point is??? They only have legal jurisdiction on the parts of the MMP which are physically part of a public roadway. They CANNOT legally enforce golf cart speed limits or stop sign actions on any MMP on TV property per Section 316.006, Florida Statutes

In order to be allowed to enforce traffic rules on TV property a written agreement must be signed between the law enforcement agency and TV. There is no such agreement.
They can if you are a danger to others. If you are driving an unregistered vehicle (modified to exceed 20 mph).
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next comes registering or numbering your cart. and you will pay for it too....its coming
Maybe, but they haven’t done that with bicycles yet.

It would need to be a statewide law. 66 other counties don’t have the same problem as Sumter with golf carts.
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They can if you are a danger to others. If you are driving an unregistered vehicle (modified to exceed 20 mph).

Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.

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Old 04-20-2024, 07:31 AM
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Civilians on Patrol for speeders on multi modal pathways.... I have seen their posts here...


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I followed a Sumter County Sherif, is a Sheriff Golf Car, with Red and Blue lights, on the MMP on Buena Vista from Eisenhower, around the gate, around the back of Mangrove, up BV, and under Buena Vista and he continued north.

Golf Car was well marked as a Sheriff’s vehicle - sherif inside had the green uniform on.
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These are not private roads. They are owned and maintained by the counties
Not correct. The MMPs are private property, and neither the counties nor cities (Wildwood) have any maintenance/ownership responsibilities.
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A $25k expenditure - interesting that they think it is better to have a patrol person taken off the dangerous roads where a lot more infractions, accidents, and fatalities occur than for a PR stunt like this.
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Not correct. The MMPs are private property, and neither the counties nor cities (Wildwood) have any maintenance/ownership responsibilities.
How are they private when they are owned by the CDD's which are public entities?
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Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.
Just like a parking lot.
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How are they private when they are owned by the CDD's which are public entities?
The CDD would have to issue the citation? That will never happen. They can’t enforce the existing rules, which are not laws.
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My electric cart can to 70 miles before running low on a charge and not stink up my house or tunnels. Your bias is showing.
stinky gas carts never blow up the garage.
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Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.
I'm not so sure about that. If I have a 35 acre farm and I'm driving in circles on my farm and I'm drinking there's not d*** thing anyone can do about it so no it's not illegal to drink and drive on private property.
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The CDD would have to issue the citation? That will never happen. They can’t enforce the existing rules, which are not laws.
According to Florida Statutes a CDD "may not exercise any police power, but may contract with the appropriate local general-purpose government agencies for an increased level of such services within the district boundaries".

So it seems if no agreement exists then anything goes on the MMP's.
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I realize they can't cite for speeding on MMP, but if the cart is going over 25 can't they cite for not having it registered as a low speed vehicle?
Yes, they can and will. However, a street legal cannot exceed 24 mph. A golf cart is restricted to 20 mph.
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Traffic offenses arenot a crime so a traffic stop on private property for the express purpose of issuing a citation would be dismissed.

Officers may investigate crimes on private property. That means an officer can pull over someone who is suspected of DUI on private property because DUI is a crime.
Speeding is not the citation. Driving an illegal unregistered vehicle is a crime. Illegally modified golf carts and street legals constitutes the crime.
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Speeding is not the citation. Driving an illegal unregistered vehicle is a crime. Illegally modified golf carts and street legals constitutes the crime.
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“After passing the golf cart, the vehicle achieved a speed of 25 mph within the golf cart lane.“
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