[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Boomer

Oh fer goodness sake, has this thread ever jumped the track.

I don't look for a whole day and a half and now I see that what was intended to make more people aware of the existence and importance of the POA has now turned into a back and forth about a paper in the driveway.

I hope this diversionary stuff can settle down a little before the whole thread runs amok.

Please, can we get back to the POA as an organization that watches out for us.

(Yes. I know -- all too well (from reading TOTV since almost the beginning) -- that there are those among us who do not want new readers to even know about the POA. Heaven forbid! Cover it up! The Enemy! The Enemy! How dare the developer ever be questioned!!!! Shut them up! Shut them out!)

Some of this comes from those who have been here for a long time, are nicely settled in, cozy and ensconced, and feeling all will be well for the remainder of their time here. That is a very nice feeling to have and I certainly do not begrudge anyone that delightful comfort zone.

But what I don't get is why some need to bash the POA and to begrudge new and future residents any awareness of its existence. Why the "Us vs. Them" mentality? Why must some see the POA as a rivalry? A threat? I don't get it.

(In Post #13 in this thread, I regaled any readers with the tale of our new roof. We were surprised and impressed to get that letter saying we were on the list for a replacement roof. I called the POA and thanked them for their good work WITH the developer in getting that shingles problem taken care of. (I would have quoted myself here, my post #13, but that would have been gauche. But you can read it there if you want to. I did not say one single bad thing about the developer. But, c'mon, all us people who got those new roofs a few years ago could never have done that by ourselves.)

One of the things I have appreciated the POA doing has to do with sinkholes. I am not up-to-date on that issue right now so I don't know if it is on the back burner or what. But you can type a topic into the search box on poa4us.org and find some archived info.

There have not been a lot of sinkholes, but when a sinkhole happens, it is devastating to the homeowner. Even though catastrophic coverage has been there, the investment in the home is never the same.

(In my sweet, little fair mind, I always thought there could maybe be some form of self insurance through TV. If the home were to be taken by a sinkhole, the cost would be reimbursed, the lot filled in, the homeowner could just move on. If the risk of sinkholes is not that big and if most people bought into the private insurance, it seems like TV would make a lot of money and the homeowner would be well-protected. But, like I have said before -- I have no idea what I am talking about -- just a thought. And, no, I am not working on that. I just think too much. Besides, surely somebody has looked into that possibility. It sure sounds like a win-win to me. There must be some reason it can't be done. )

Anyway, if you are still reading this dissertation and if I have any credibility at all -- who knows -- I hope you will consider my opinion which is that the POA is important to homeowners. All homeowners.

If you go to poa4us.org, scoll down, and look to the left, you can click on the bulletin and all the archived ones, too. Free information. Right there. (And, oh yes, there you will find the aforementioned "Bulletin No Throw Form" too. How convenient is that.)

Boomer

Great post Boomer, and you have tons of credibility with me...which may not make you feel warm and fuzzy, as so many think I am a bit crazy, but your post is a good one, valid and based on facts.

We appear, over the last years, to have welcomed in our midst (on this forum) a number of folks that can only be called "elitists". Also, those folks tend to "preach" and if they have an listening skills, they have long ago been tread on. Even when these type say they "understand", they are peering at many from their perch and frankly often say things like...."we all agree", when we do not at all. They refer to "us" as if we joined their "club" which we did not.

Everyone in The Villages does NOT agree with the many things said on here. Not wanting to be preached to or spend time arguing, OR having the "gang" come and get you just are silent.

Bullying by individual or by group seems to be the 'in thing" now days.......makes things difficult to have any discussion on.

Thanks for a reasonable and well thought out post.

I have been here for NINETEEN years and have always seen both sides, and anyone who arbitrarily says one is right and one is wrong....well, they are not interested in anything but a "win" in that discussion....that is it. The fact that some on here posted that they didn't thing they could even mention the name of the POA tells you a lot about the mood

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Great post Boomer, and you have tons of credibility with me...which may not make you feel warm and fuzzy, as so many think I am a bit crazy, but your post is a good one, valid and based on facts.

We appear, over the last years, to have welcomed in our midst (on this forum) a number of folks that can only be called "elitists". Also, those folks tend to "preach" and if they have an listening skills, they have long ago been tread on. Even when these type say they "understand", they are peering at many from their perch and frankly often say things like...."we all agree", when we do not at all. They refer to "us" as if we joined their "club" which we did not.

Everyone in The Villages does NOT agree with the many things said on here. Not wanting to be preached to or spend time arguing, OR having the "gang" come and get you just are silent.

Bullying by individual or by group seems to be the 'in thing" now days.......makes things difficult to have any discussion on.

Thanks for a reasonable and well thought out post.

I have been here for NINETEEN years and have always seen both sides, and anyone who arbitrarily says one is right and one is wrong....well, they are not interested in anything but a "win" in that discussion....that is it. The fact that some on here posted that they didn't thing they could even mention the name of the POA tells you a lot about the mood

Mm, yes. The "our club, you're an outsider until we say you're not" mentality is rather sordid. Especially the "do you even live here yet?" posts. You don't need to be a 10-year-resident to know that 2+2= 4 in the Villages, since, y'know, it =4 everywhere. If something doesn't add up, it doesn't add up. Whether here or anywhere else. Especially when you resort to (dare I suggest) facts, data, statistics, and professional organizations to back up your reasoning for opinion.

But who cares about science. Flat earthers gonna flat earth.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

Mm, yes. The "our club, you're an outsider until we say you're not" mentality is rather sordid. Especially the "do you even live here yet?" posts. You don't need to be a 10-year-resident to know that 2+2= 4 in the Villages, since, y'know, it =4 everywhere. If something doesn't add up, it doesn't add up. Whether here or anywhere else. Especially when you resort to (dare I suggest) facts, data, statistics, and professional organizations to back up your reasoning for opinion.

But who cares about science. Flat earthers gonna flat earth.

AND you can catch more flies with sugar than you can with vinegar.

[graciegirl]

People are who they are and they bring themselves with them. If a person has had a long life with successful interactions with people that will continue in The Villages. There are some who never want their real identity to be known.

I have had large gatherings in the past at our home for folks to meet folks from TOTV.

I have not regretted doing so. Everyone is different. Everyone is valuable. Some are more successful than others at life in general and with people in general. And some people just keep repeating their not successful habits.

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[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Not so. It has always worked for us when we've been snowbirds.

Same here. In fact, I even received an email from them thanking me for letting them know not to deliver.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Same here. In fact, I even received an email from them thanking me for letting them know not to deliver.

So did I, actually, just after emailing them today to suspend our delivery till fall. Thanks to whoever posted the url, because in all the rigamarole of shutting down and leaving, I plum forgot to notify them.


And Boomer...POA did a lot of work regarding setting up an insurance fund against sink holes. It turned out that there are Florida insurance laws making that impossible. I think you might be able to go on POA's web site and search for that.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I just wish they would allow for open-ended resume dates. We can't move in (officially) til our house up north sells, and we can't even put our house up for sale until June. We're taking trips by car to gradually bring our things down to the house, and I hate to think the neighbors are getting annoyed at seeing the paper there every month just because I can't tell them when to resume delivery.

I just submitted though asking them to hold off til the end of July. I guess I can change it again, if needed.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Jazuela

I just wish they would allow for open-ended resume dates. We can't move in (officially) til our house up north sells, and we can't even put our house up for sale until June. We're taking trips by car to gradually bring our things down to the house, and I hate to think the neighbors are getting annoyed at seeing the paper there every month just because I can't tell them when to resume delivery.

I just submitted though asking them to hold off til the end of July. I guess I can change it again, if needed.

Just suspend it for a year or a decade, whatever. Go online and read it. When you get back here permanently, go to the site and ask to resume it. Easy peasy.

[ColdNoMore]

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[Boomer]

Originally Posted by CFrance

So did I, actually, just after emailing them today to suspend our delivery till fall. Thanks to whoever posted the url, because in all the rigamarole of shutting down and leaving, I plum forgot to notify them.


And Boomer...POA did a lot of work regarding setting up an insurance fund against sink holes. It turned out that there are Florida insurance laws making that impossible. I think you might be able to go on POA's web site and search for that.

Thanks, CFrance, I kind of lost track of it after a while. I figured the power of the insurance company lobbyists probably would kick in somehow and not for the better. (sigh)

Anyway, I do appreciate the POA trying.

[HarleyDoc]

How do you become a member?

[PIASO]

If we are commenting on the publication that is included in the Daily Sun newspaper and thrown in our driveway, I was simply comment it is a waste of money to distribute in both manners. Additionally the publication thrown in the driveways, becomes litter and an eyesore especially for unoccupied properties where the litter remains in the driveway for weeks or even months before it blows onto someone else's property.

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

The Property Owners Association of The Villages...of course.

After receiving my April issue today, I once again strongly advocate that it is the best $10 a year....any Villager will ever spend.

Unless of course, you tend to react to truth and facts (and yes, sometimes "opinions") like a vampire does...to direct sunlight.


In that case, the best advise I can give, would be to pull the curtains and lower the blinds...STAT!

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by PIASO

If we are commenting on the publication that is included in the Daily Sun newspaper and thrown in our driveway, I was simply comment it is a waste of money to distribute in both manners. Additionally the publication thrown in the driveways, becomes litter and an eyesore especially for unoccupied properties where the litter remains in the driveway for weeks or even months before it blows onto someone else's property.

To answer your question, no...there's absolutely no correlation between the POA and the Sun.


In fact, I can't even imagine and would probably faint, if the POA newsletter was EVER delivered...as part of the Happy Paper.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by HarleyDoc

How do you become a member?

Good morning, Harley Doc, and welcome. (If your screen name refers to your Harley, I must say I absolutely luv the sound of those beautiful machines. Nothing like that throaty rumble. Luv it. I admit to being that lady in the white car with the Florida plates who you might catch staring at any Harley that pulls up alongside at a light. I just can't help it. Sometimes I crack the window so I can listen to that sound. Then somebody behind me lays on their horn and ruins my little bit of fun. (sigh) )

Anyway, to answer your question about how to join the POA: Their website is poa4us.org

There you will find the info on how to join, along with the current bulletin and all the archived bulletins, too.

If you want to have a look around the site, scroll down, and to the left you will find a list of topics to click on. There is lots of information on poa4us.org that everybody can read.