[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by wiltma

white cross. Don't know why Christians/Catholics feel they have to put their faith/cross in everyones face. Practice your beliefs in acts of kindness and then they will know what you believe .

That would be nice, but for those that are devoutly religious it would not point out the difference between Christianity and humanitarianism

[butlerism]

My solution. Put 50 crosses all over the place.
Spray paint one in the street at 2 am.
Jackasses

[butlerism]

Gnomes....creepy

[butlerism]

Is it a cross to bear, or a bear to cross. Sounds like the latter.
Remind everyone too much time to dwell, breeds stupidity

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by Elaine Dickinson

All dogs are required to be on a leash at all times, dogs are not allowed off leash on any athletic field or other public areas. Not allowing pets to play and walk on common area landscaping. Owner is responsible for picking up after pet, please take all waste home for disposal.

I see this rule broken often. Or do we get to pick and choose which rules we want to follow.

That's not a deed restriction. It's a county ordinance.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by wiltma

white cross. Don't know why Christians/Catholics feel they have to put their faith/cross in everyones face. Practice your beliefs in acts of kindness and then they will know what you believe .

Now this remark is generally not correct about either Catholics or Christians. Perhaps about a few of them.

Some people feel they need to be in your face about basically anything they want. Especially politics or religion. They seem completely unconcerned about what your reaction might be.

[newgirl]

I would be fine with your little guys hanging out in your yard. They are supposed to bring good luck.

[airstreamingypsy]

The cross people are just being childish. They want to have their own way, in spite of the rules they agreed to. One person's cross is another person's pink flamingo. They are making it about religion, but it isn't, it's about no lawn ornaments allowed where they live.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by merrymini

Why should people pay a fee when YOU are the one breaking with the rules? Maybe the penalty should be paid by the people who do not follow the rules. That would certainly stop people from putting all the junk on their front lawns. Put it in your back yard!

In one month there were over 700 complaints, most by one person. Why would a person travel from village to village, street by street, call, fax or email in violation’s. It must be a full time job.

I am very much for the deed compliance, and those in violation can pay a fine. BUT those who travel to other villages has bigger issues to deal with.

Our 8 blocks visited by the clipboards, 145 complaints in one day. Our cameras picked them up and have clear pics as they drove, walked our house. Later that month knock on the door, from very nice person about a complaint on our home.

White cross in my yard. I said Not my Yard. So we walked to my Back Yard (so clipboards traveled thru our yard, cameras not their friend) to look, low and behold I had a plant that a beige branch had grown into what could be construed as a cross, if you really looked sideways, and stand on your head.

The person, and I laughed (you must have a sense of humor to do that job). I was Cautioned: remember make sure your plants don’t grow to look like a lawn ornament. I said “No crosses in our yard, we attend temple”. Offered a bottle of water and off to the next issue, the list longer than Santa.

I did ask how many were a nothing, wouldn’t say, but 98% cooperative
So if a person had to pay a fee to file, it would cut back on having to look so hard to find something. And if there was no viable infraction money not returned. Good fundraiser

[Byte1]

If you do not turn violators in, you may lose your membership and little red book.
Some folks are very sensitive about their impending judgement, since they are very very close to that day. Reminding them of their eternal plight is not being a good neighbor. Since the cross "represents" the gift of salvation to anyone that simply reaches out and accepts it, some find it frightening. Being a good neighbor, a Christian should not flaunt their happiness when some of their neighbors may be facing eternal damnation.
But, rules are rules (not law). Glad I live in a neighborhood that does not have such a rule. My neighbors have beautifully personalized lawns, with birds, gnomes, animal ornaments-- AND crosses. Almost everyone in my neighborhood have crosses in their yard. It gives me a warm feeling when I drive through. And apparently it has not damaged their property value, because when they go up for sale they sell within a few days. $400K-$500K homes sell within days of listing.
This is just my opinion and I can understand how some folks might be paranoid about "certain" rules. No one's personalized yard offends me. I am not going to allow trivial things like a little cross or a bird ornament make me sour in my last 20 years(?). I am going to enjoy the company of my neighbors, rather than alienate them. I don't even care what political affiliation they support or if they fly a flag supporting that party. To some, the "cross" in the yard is comforting and a reminder of what they can look forward to.
Yes, it may violate some deed restrictions. I know that no one that criticizes has ever coasted thru a stop sign or violated the speed limit, which are laws, not just rules. Sorry, if I do not find these little crosses to be offensive. Could it be that there is a gap in some folks knowledge/education that they do not comprehend what the cross represents? Then again, rules are rules and MUST NOT be violated. Did I hear a "Sieg Heil, Comrad?" Just kidding.

Don't take this seriously. Enjoy your neighbors and their personalities. Your neighbor will likely be there when your family is not.

[beeneyra]

Its like the USGA, they make changes to the rules every year, so they can act like there somebody. Freedom of speach, freedom of religion, gone, next guns.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

You have the opportunity to turn in the violator, if you do not the violations will continue. Doesn't matter which rule is broken, rules are rules. I have turned in people that allow their dogs to run loose, they were contacted but still don't use a leash, I call them "The Elite" to this class of people rules and regulations are meaningless.

Sounds like a very stressful way to live your twilight years.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

If you do not turn violators in, you may lose your membership and little red book.
Some folks are very sensitive about their impending judgement, since they are very very close to that day. Reminding them of their eternal plight is not being a good neighbor. Since the cross "represents" the gift of salvation to anyone that simply reaches out and accepts it, some find it frightening. Being a good neighbor, a Christian should not flaunt their happiness when some of their neighbors may be facing eternal damnation.
But, rules are rules (not law). Glad I live in a neighborhood that does not have such a rule. My neighbors have beautifully personalized lawns, with birds, gnomes, animal ornaments-- AND crosses. Almost everyone in my neighborhood have crosses in their yard. It gives me a warm feeling when I drive through. And apparently it has not damaged their property value, because when they go up for sale they sell within a few days. $400K-$500K homes sell within days of listing.
This is just my opinion and I can understand how some folks might be paranoid about "certain" rules. No one's personalized yard offends me. I am not going to allow trivial things like a little cross or a bird ornament make me sour in my last 20 years(?). I am going to enjoy the company of my neighbors, rather than alienate them. I don't even care what political affiliation they support or if they fly a flag supporting that party. To some, the "cross" in the yard is comforting and a reminder of what they can look forward to.
Yes, it may violate some deed restrictions. I know that no one that criticizes has ever coasted thru a stop sign or violated the speed limit, which are laws, not just rules. Sorry, if I do not find these little crosses to be offensive. Could it be that there is a gap in some folks knowledge/education that they do not comprehend what the cross represents? Then again, rules are rules and MUST NOT be violated. Did I hear a "Sieg Heil, Comrad?" Just kidding.

Don't take this seriously. Enjoy your neighbors and their personalities. Your neighbor will likely be there when your family is not.

I pretty much agree. I think the point of the covenant is to help maintain property values. A rusty car up on blocks would be a problem, a pole dancer made out of LEDs on a flag pole would be a problem. But, birds, crosses, small fountains, etc. are not a problem.

Whatever the cross represents is not relevant, since it is an article of faith. That there are so many people that feel compelled to complain constantly is just sad.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by lkagele

You're allowed seasonal decorations for up to 30 days.

White cross lady should celebrate January for 30 days, take the cross down for a day and then celebrate February for 30 days. Rinse and repeat twelve times a year celebrating each month.

Or, buy a planter for some flowers and paint a cross on the planter.

Or, cut down a palm tree but leave a 2' stump on which to place a flower planter. Carve a cross in the stump.

Religious expression can take many different forms and you don't necessarily have to create a problem when alternatives exist.

We celebrate SUNDAY for 30 days at a time with a little white cross. Is there supposed to be a certain gap in between?

[RodSheets]

Rules are rules. Change the rule or abide.