[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Kelevision

Wow!! I’m not a lawn ornament person so I didn’t really pay attention to the rules? Are no lawn ornaments allowed? My neighborhood, some houses have so many lawn ornaments, it’s a bit unattractive.

The covenants and deed restrictions can be different for each CDD - but I venture to say that many are the same re the placement of lawn ornaments specifically......unless one lives in the historic villages where lawn ornaments are permitted there.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

I received a letter from the law firm yesterday stating that my tenant had a lawn ornament in the front of the house, it was a metal bird like so many homes have. I contacted my tenants and they removed the item, they also talked with the attorney's office to fully understand the complain and were told that they received 65 anonymous complaints from the same person, that would be a professional troll.

If the complaints are anonymous, how do they know they are from the same person?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

One persons bird is another persons theme park , follow the rules that you signed off on or move to some of the neighboring trailer parks , where you can always put up a velvet Elvis and everyone will admire you

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

One persons bird is another persons theme park , follow the rules that you signed off on or move to some of the neighboring trailer parks , where you can always put up a velvet Elvis and everyone will admire you

A tad elitist, don't ya' think?

[SGR720]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

The covenants and deed restrictions can be different for each CDD - but I venture to say that many are the same re the placement of lawn ornaments specifically......unless one lives in the historic villages where lawn ornaments are permitted there.

It's not about the CDD you live in. I live in Glenbrook which is CDD 3, Polo Ridge is next to Glenbrook also in CDD 3 our deed restrictions state we are not allowed lawn ornaments but they are allowed in Polo Ridge. When we built here in 2001 Glenbrook was new development and when we toured the area we saw a variety of lawn ornaments we thought there was no enforcement of the deed restrictions we signed. We and several neighbors found out differently when we received certified letters stating we were out of compliance and we would be fined if we did not remove our ornaments. That's when we found out that the restrictions were not the same for every home. I'm pretty sure that everything south of 466 has the lawn ornament restriction.

I'd suggest everyone read what the signed and agreed to when they built/bought their house before getting bent out of shape. Most housing developments in Florida have deed restrictions and many are much stricter than the Villages.

As far as trolls go, it has always been an anonymous reporting system obviously someone reported us and our neighbors but we don't know who it was. I just assumed it was either someone who strictly abides by the rules or someone who had been reported themselves and was paying it forward. Either way no big deal my happiness does not depend on whether or not I can have a lawn ornament.

[Byte1]

I understand that there is a certain element that also wishes to remove Bibles from churches. If they refuse, then they lose their taxfree status.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I understand that there is a certain element that also wishes to remove Bibles from churches. If they refuse, then they lose their taxfree status.

That is one of the most outrageous things I have ever read. NEVER have I heard anything anywhere close to anything like that.

I have heard of people trying to get houses of worship to lose their taxfree status, but never anything about removing BIBLES or any other church THING.

That doesn't make sense at all. One is plausible and the other makes no sense whatsoever. Catholic Churches have Hymnals in their pews and a missal at the lectern. Anglican I think use a book of Common prayer in their service. Not sure what Episcopal use. Lutheran and Methodist might have a lot of Bibles in the building, but I don't remember them in the pew. Like I say I am not sure. Bibles are revered and respected by almost all Christian sects but only fundemental churches use literal interpretation. Catholics do not use literal interpretation and only recently (in the last forty years) have taken up SOME Bible study and meditations.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by Byte1

I understand that there is a certain element that also wishes to remove Bibles from churches. If they refuse, then they lose their taxfree status.

I am totally in favor of revoking all church's tax-free status. I don't care what they have in their churches, be it bibles, snakes, or golden idols. But, I see no reason for multi-million dollar "businesses" that fly their preachers around in private jets to go tax-free. And if we revoke theirs, then all churches have to have their tax-free status revoked.

But, I am not sure what this has to do with the thread, other than it is a TOTV tradition to segway.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bleau

Well this should start a conversation.
Did you know that one of the Districts governance bodies is suing a resident over a very small white cross in their yard?
They should start a go fund me page to fight this.

Resident says HOA in The Villages is suing her for displaying cross, lawn ornaments

Endless posts on the same subject. There are rules. People think often passionately
why they are not subject to the rules. So many threads actually endless. Yes the speed limit on golf carts is 20 mph or you need plates, insurance and a license-that does not apply to me. Pick up after your dog-that does not apply to me. Banners-that does not apply to me. Noise etc etc etc etc. People are people. First of all an 8 inch cross I do not claim to be an expert on the subject but the ones I see are larger than 8 inches.
People being people oh he has an 8 inch cross so my 12 inch cross is ok. It may not even be up any longer I saw a home where the person put up three crosses on his/her front lawn.

I've never had a conflict with, The Villages. From perhaps other posts, I think they give you a warning before taking action.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

I am totally in favor of revoking all church's tax-free status. I don't care what they have in their churches, be it bibles, snakes, or golden idols. But, I see no reason for multi-million dollar "businesses" that fly their preachers around in private jets to go tax-free. And if we revoke theirs, then all churches have to have their tax-free status revoked.

But, I am not sure what this has to do with the thread, other than it is a TOTV tradition to segway.

Re: taxes. All think someone else, anyone else but them should pay.

As far as tax free churches, it is not just churches but all religious buildings.

I recall reading years ago, a teacher's group was spreading. One of them was creating paperwork that each was a religious leader, a church and they thus were tax free. The taxman shut them down.

Tax free? There are no shortage of not for profit, charitable businesses where the top people are paid millions.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by SGR720

It's not about the CDD you live in. I live in Glenbrook which is CDD 3, Polo Ridge is next to Glenbrook also in CDD 3 our deed restrictions state we are not allowed lawn ornaments but they are allowed in Polo Ridge. When we built here in 2001 Glenbrook was new development and when we toured the area we saw a variety of lawn ornaments we thought there was no enforcement of the deed restrictions we signed. We and several neighbors found out differently when we received certified letters stating we were out of compliance and we would be fined if we did not remove our ornaments. That's when we found out that the restrictions were not the same for every home. I'm pretty sure that everything south of 466 has the lawn ornament restriction.

I'd suggest everyone read what the signed and agreed to when they built/bought their house before getting bent out of shape. Most housing developments in Florida have deed restrictions and many are much stricter than the Villages.

As far as trolls go, it has always been an anonymous reporting system obviously someone reported us and our neighbors but we don't know who it was. I just assumed it was either someone who strictly abides by the rules or someone who had been reported themselves and was paying it forward. Either way no big deal my happiness does not depend on whether or not I can have a lawn ornament.

Well said. Closing on a home here. Last time, many years ago the closing paperwork was four pages. Here it was like 30. I was told they allow 15 minutes for a closing.
My mom taught me, you never sign anything without reading it and understanding it.
I asked for and got a copy before closing and the 15 minutes gave me just enough time to be sure what they were asking me to sign matched the copy I reviewed with my attorney.

"Someone who had been reported themselves," Sadly, these things can and do make things miserable for all.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

One persons bird is another persons theme park , follow the rules that you signed off on or move to some of the neighboring trailer parks , where you can always put up a velvet Elvis and everyone will admire you

Why would you need to go to a neighboring trailer park, when we have a perfectly lovely one right here in the Villages, and we allow our neighbors to express their creativity? If you can do a rockin' velvet Elvis painting, I totally want to see it.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

That is one of the most outrageous things I have ever read. NEVER have I heard anything anywhere close to anything like that.

I have heard of people trying to get houses of worship to lose their taxfree status, but never anything about removing BIBLES or any other church THING.

That doesn't make sense at all. One is plausible and the other makes no sense whatsoever. Catholic Churches have Hymnals in their pews and a missal at the lectern. Anglican I think use a book of Common prayer in their service. Not sure what Episcopal use. Lutheran and Methodist might have a lot of Bibles in the building, but I don't remember them in the pew. Like I say I am not sure. Bibles are revered and respected by almost all Christian sects but only fundemental churches use literal interpretation. Catholics do not use literal interpretation and only recently (in the last forty years) have taken up SOME Bible study and meditations.

I expect it was sarcasm, but you never know here.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Re: taxes. All think someone else, anyone else but them should pay.

As far as tax free churches, it is not just churches but all religious buildings.

I recall reading years ago, a teacher's group was spreading. One of them was creating paperwork that each was a religious leader, a church and they thus were tax free. The taxman shut them down.

Tax free? There are no shortage of not for profit, charitable businesses where the top people are paid millions.

I agree, I don't think any "non-profit" (LOL) should be tax free.

My brother was a Southern Baptist minister his whole life and so never paid income tax. So, I understand that. But, at least he didn't own a private jet by promising to pray over photo's of poor people for a small "donation".

[frose]

when they pay my property taxes, they can tell me what i can put on my property, until then screw bug off.