[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by DAVES

Hum there is that annoying ad on the radio where the lady is betting when a 15 year old water heater will fail. Copper plumbing under the house? I would expect you will find they need to break some holes through your cement. You likely have tiles ,etc. You may not be able to find matching tiles. It can easily turn into a monster. Our home is ten years old and I am fairly sure it is plastic. I would as a plumber. Our previous home was 48 years old. We had copper plumbing. At that time copper was the latest. Some people had galvanized steel/iron. The copper prevented pipes from being pugged with calcium. Like everything else things are not done as they used to be. With the cost of copper, I will bet copper plumbing is far thinner than it was 60 years ago.

Huh? What? Not copper "plumbing." We had that in our 70yr old home up north. Doubt that is used just about anywhere here in TV or anywhere any more. Everything is PVC or CPVC or that flexible stuff. The copper lines I refer to are the coolant lines from the A/C compressor in our backyard under the house to the air handler in the garage, along with the condensate drain tube and the low voltage cable. They go through an 8" (or so) PVC "raceway" so they can (usually) just be pulled out and replaced. They are sealed on either end. New construction the copper is generally done through the attic.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by pokeefe45@aol.com

Check out the program for yourself at the link below (and if you get really interested,you can download the actual 'Inflation reduction act' bill passed by congress):

If you are fitting the description of 'medium income'-I'd hold my breath before I invested right now in a water heater or a new AC system, or electric range for that matter.

Home Energy Rebate Programs Guidance | Department of Energy


2023 Home Electrification and Appliance Rebate Program Guidance
The Home Electrification and Appliance Rebate Program provides $4,275,000,000 in formula grants to states and territories and $225,000,000 in grants to tribes to install efficient electric technology into low- and medium-income single- and multi-family homes. These funds are expected to be available to states and tribes in Summer 2023.

Been there, done that which was why I didn't do it last fall. .

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Dave951

Has anyone installed a tank less electric water heater

I hear they are terrible. Need like 3 separate 220V electric lines for one that generates enough HW. We had gas tankless up north and it was fantastic. Sadly the electric ones are nothing like it.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Songbird

Contrary to some replies, do NOT use Lowes or Home Depot. Their contractors charge about $700 more than some others. I recommend Roger Pearce (352-572-8954), who installed an A.O. Smith equivalent to the big box stores for $850. He replaced and rerouted the expansion tank (so it wasn't near the ceiling) and replaced the tray. He does this himself (he's a strong guy) so you're not paying extra for helper. He is busy so you may have to wait a few weeks. Hint: he leaves the thermostat at factory setting which is low for our dish washer - ask him to set it a bit higher to at least 140 degrees.

. That's who is doing mine. June 5th.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by JGibson

Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence, say stupid things win stupid prizes.

Only use Mike Scott they’re the most honest and upfront plumbers that work with the gas company.

Electric has lots of upfront costs including special installation and would take decades to recoup any savings.

Ours IS electric as is our entire home and as wonderful as Mike Scott is I PERSONALLY wouldn't give him any business and not because they aren't a good plumbing company (as noted in my previous post). It was business related, not quality related.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Contrary to some replies, Lowes was great.
We used them in the past.
Good price, Good product, Good service.

It's not Lowes or Home Depot that has anything to do with the WH install when you contact them. When you contact them they farm it out to a bunch of outside plumbing contractors who all call you with prices and have no actual connection to them other than to have supplied their names and I am sure been vetted for proper insurance & license. Kinda like ANgi's List. I had about 4 calls when I told Lowes I wanted a WH installed. They might be great but they wanted almost $900 JUST FOR THE INSTALL of the water heater. They also wanted to charge a $150 fee for a permit which is not required in Sumter county for the swapout. Most of the local plumbing contractos (Like Scott, Pearce etc) get the same heater from Lowes that their people will supply.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Dave951

Has anyone installed a tank less electric water heater

I would be interested if it is worth the money to install a gas tank less water heater?

[dgd52161]

Can you please provide name and number for this plumber you used?
Thank you!



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Originally Posted by Pairadocs

O.A Smith, about 2 yrs. ago now, natural gas, also did new "expansion" vent. 40 gal, shopped around and found every plumbing business not only charged for the installation, that is certainly normal, but also inflated the price of the very same brand and model of O.A. Smith. So bought what we wanted and hired a retired journeyman plumber originally from Ohio with 38 years experience. Our O.A. gas heaters have all lasted from 18 years to 21 years for one !

[airdote22]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Any estimates from Frank Gay ?

Requested estimate for new HVAC, Was told the estimate would cost $79. plus they require a credit card

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by airdote22

Requested estimate for new HVAC, Was told the estimate would cost $79. plus they require a credit card

I would never pay for an estimate.

[airdote22]

To get estimate for a HVAC system, $79 plus credit card

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by airdote22

To get estimate for a HVAC system, $79 plus credit card

Why not call them back and ask them if they would like to pay you $79 for the opportunity to provide a quote?