[gerryann]

Originally Posted by travelguy

am so tired of dogs being everywhere. and now in restaurants also? it is bad enough all over the squares, on the sidewalks all over the place, walking and urinating and pooping wherever their owners think they can be. i have seen several businesses put up signs that discourage customers from bringing their dogs on the property.
Dog owners...please respect that not all of us love having your pets around us.

Your post created what you wanted. You love stirring the pot. So....do you dislike old people too?

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by travelguy

am so tired of dogs being everywhere. and now in restaurants also? it is bad enough all over the squares, on the sidewalks all over the place, walking and urinating and pooping wherever their owners think they can be. i have seen several businesses put up signs that discourage customers from bringing their dogs on the property.
Dog owners...please respect that not all of us love having your pets around us.

Um, I think your picker was off when you chose to live here.

[old moe]

Originally Posted by gerryann

Your post created what you wanted. You love stirring the pot. So....do you dislike old people too?

Amen to this post. If someone dislikes dogs, there are PLENTY of retirement areas to live where they don't allow PETS, Ckeck one out.

[notlongnow]

Not sure why this is such an issue in the US. If you go to Europe, you will have dogs in dining establishments all the time.

Different cultures, I guess ????

True! I spent 6 years in Germany and found that the locals would leave the kids at home and take the dog with them to the restaurant. I MUCH preferred that! I'd rather have dinner next to a quiet, well behaved dog than a toddler.

These are the two post that stand out to me.

I would like to know how many people in TV have cats walking on there counter or tables or dogs laying in the floor in the kitchen while they cook and eat.
I have a dog that lives WITH us as ONE OF US.
It really is not that big of a deal.
Someone always has something that bothers them and I don't see this as an epidemic.


I think it is really crystallized in TV.

EB

[Uncle Tom]

Originally Posted by Cobh521

I do not dislike dogs. In fact I had a dog for the past 18 years that recently passed. I was in City Fire in Brownwood and three women had three very very large dogs with them. They insisted that they needed to eat inside. The waiter could not get near the table since the dogs were sitting there. These dogs had comfort tags on them but I do not believe this is the same as a service dog. While these women were waiting for a seat they had the whole entrance blocked by the dogs. I do not feel that these large dogs, who could eat off the tables standing ip, should be in a dining establishment. I am also allergic to these breeds. (I had a toy poodle). I would like some opinions on this matter as I felt if I complained I would be causing a ruckus of ADA

I was married to an optician, she would not allow her lab to be put in the dog area on a plane, so she went on the internet and got a service dog vest. She was an optician so got thick lenses that would reverse her vision to normal, but looking at her you would think she was blind. She was not, just wanted to get her dog up in business class on the plane. You are starting to see a lot of people with service dogs . But you cant go up them and say are you really blind, etc... There are a few people out there getting carried away with this issue, I dont have to worry anymore. I divorced her, now she is still flying first class somewhere with her (service dog).

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Uncle Tom

I was married to an optician, she would not allow her lab to be put in the dog area on a plane, so she went on the internet and got a service dog vest. She was an optician so got thick lenses that would reverse her vision to normal, but looking at her you would think she was blind. She was not, just wanted to get her dog up in business class on the plane. You are starting to see a lot of people with service dogs . But you cant go up them and say are you really blind, etc... There are a few people out there getting carried away with this issue, I dont have to worry anymore. I divorced her, now she is still flying first class somewhere with her (service dog).

I love this post. We travel a lot and we bring our dog. He is small enough that he can be put in a carrier under the seat and most of the time no one even knows he is there. Yes, you do pay a fee if this is not a service dog and they cannot be accommodated if they weigh over 20 pounds. I decided I wanted the freedom to take him anywhere when we traveled so I went online, bought a service vest and the cards you present if anyone challenges you. Seemed like a good idea at the time. The first time I took him out in his service vest I felt like a total Schmuck! That was 9 years ago and he has never worn that vest since. I can't imagine a person who "cheats the system" like this. I just couldn't do it. You are lucky that this deceitful person is your X.

[capecodbob]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Why would you move to an openly dog friendly community if you don't want to be around dogs??? It's no secret here. If a community has dog parks (as sorry as they maybe) you can probably figure there are a lot of dogs here.

I think you're missing the point. Most of us love animals but we're getting annoyed with irresponsible animal owners.
Letting your animal relieve themselves in a public area like Spanish Springs, is totally inconsiderate of others and of the health of the rest of us. If you own an animal then you have certain responsibilities that go with that ownership. Unfortunately we are seeing more and more of those that are not being responsible, and as an animal owner, I don't appreciate that!

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by capecodbob

I think you're missing the point. Most of us love animals but we're getting annoyed with irresponsible animal owners.
Letting your animal relieve themselves in a public area like Spanish Springs, is totally inconsiderate of others and of the health of the rest of us. If you own an animal then you have certain responsibilities that go with that ownership. Unfortunately we are seeing more and more of those that are not being responsible, and as an animal owner, I don't appreciate that!

No, I think you may be missing the point. The person in question regarding negative posts about dogs has made it very clear his feelings about dogs. What he and maybe you are missing is that it is a very small percentage of folks who let their dogs relieve themselves where they should not. The majority of dog owners in TV are very responsible. There are always those few that don't think the rules apply to them. Don't blame all pet owners.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I am tired of people crabbing about not wanting dogs in places where the law allows them to be. And I'm also tired of them accusing the majority of dog owners of not picking up after their pets, when this is absolutely not true in TV.

I will take my dog wherever he is legally allowed, if I deem it appropriate for my dog, safe for my dog , and a place my dog will enjoy. I will never take him anywhere he isn't allowed, ever. If a person doesn't like to have dogs around him, he should frequent places where dogs are not allowed. Or else work to change the laws.

I don't mind at all following the laws. But I reserve the right to engage in activities that the laws allow for my dog if I choose. Work to change or stay away.

If buyers don't like seeing pets in public places in TV where they are permitted, why do they choose to live in a pet friendly community where two dogs per household are allowed? Why do people complain when people take their pets to the Town Squares where they are permitted? Why do people complain about dogs on restaurant patios when they are permitted to be there?

Most people in TV love animals. If they have pets, they clean up after them and are respectful of others property.

It's like moving to The Villages and complaining that there are too many golf courses.

[blueash]

The responsive official from the Sumter (no p) County Government answered my email asking if any restaurants had permits for non-service dogs to be allowed in the outdoor dining areas. Only Cody's in LSL has such a permit. Here is his email:

Presently, Cody’s Road House in Lake Sumter Landings in The Villages is the only restaurant in Sumter County permitted under Section 13-735 of the Land Development Code. If you have observed dogs being allowed into outdoor dining areas in unpermitted restaurants, please advise me and I will contact the restaurant to advise them of the permit requirements. If you have visited Cody’s Road House and believe they are not complying with the requirements of their permit, please also let me know and I will assign an inspector to review their compliance.

If you have any additional questions, please contact me.
Karl E. Holley, AICP
Director of Development Services
Sumter County Board of Commissioners
7375 Powell Road
Wildwood, Florida 34785
(352) 689-4463
Sumter County, FL - Official Website


So for those who are unhappy with dogs, or possible lack of compliance with all the sanitary rules, you have your contact information.

[Patty55]

Cody's is now my new favorite place, even if I don't have dogs with me.

[Barefoot]

Thanks for letting us know that the deck at Codys is pet friendly.

[tommy steam]

Hot button issue!

[The Great Fumar]

Originally Posted by notlongnow

These are the two post that stand out to me.

I would like to know how many people in TV have cats walking on there counter or tables or dogs laying in the floor in the kitchen while they cook and eat.
I have a dog that lives WITH us as ONE OF US.
It really is not that big of a deal.
Someone always has something that bothers them and I don't see this as an epidemic.


I think it is really crystallized in TV.

EB

Enjoy your worm !!!!!!

Fumar,......

[ilovetv]

I would like to see a list of restaurants in St. Louis, Tampa, Jacksonville, Gainesville, Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Sacramento, Seattle, Phoenix, Kansas City, Omaha, Dallas, Chicago, Napierville, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Hilton Head SC.......ANYWHERE....

.....where dog owners on this board who are pooh-poohing this situation would insist on taking dogs that are not true service dogs.

Just because you're in The Villages does not mean you can suddenly ignore norms of decency and respect for other people. There are many people who do NOT like and do not allow animals in their house. There are also many who are deathly AFRAID of any dog, for good reason--like having been attacked and bitten!!!!

Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass, but the same people here have NO regard for people who are not accustomed to animals in a dining area next to them, and NO regard for those who are obviously traumatized by real experience with a dog attacking and/or biting them????

You sit here and pamper and empathize with a supposed person in need of a "comfort dog" because THEY have had some kind of problem with anxiety, but you care NOTHING for those who are AFRAID OF DOGS or do not pay to eat with animals next to them.