[Patty55]

I wonder how it works at places like Red Sauce where it's not a deck but an extension of the sidewalk?

How about Marion County? Lake County? Palm Beach County?

[The Great Fumar]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Thanks for letting us know that the deck at Codys is pet friendly.

Thanks for letting us know to scratch Codys off the list !!!!!

Has anyone a pen ????

penless Fumar

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by The Great Fumar

Thanks for letting us know to scratch Codys off the list !!!!!

Has anyone a pen ????

penless Fumar

Have you ever dined on the deck outside at Cody's?

[CFrance]

"Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass, but the same people here have NO regard for people who are not accustomed to animals in a dining area next to them, and NO regard for those who are obviously traumatized by real experience with a dog attacking and/or biting them????"

Because it's the law! If you don't like it, work to change the law. But good luck. Disabled people have been discriminated against longer than people of color. They have rights that need to be upheld. If you are afraid of dogs and walk into a resto with a service dog, walk out.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by CFrance

"Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass, but the same people here have NO regard for people who are not accustomed to animals in a dining area next to them, and NO regard for those who are obviously traumatized by real experience with a dog attacking and/or biting them????"

Because it's the law! If you don't like it, work to change the law. But good luck. Disabled people have been discriminated against longer than people of color. They have rights that need to be upheld. If you are afraid of dogs and walk into a resto with a service dog, walk out.

This thread is not about true service dogs. It's about dogs about whom there is significant doubt about their valid service credentials.....as the original poster doubted the service credentials of the three dogs in City Fire-BW.

[Peggy D]

Originally Posted by Bill32

My wife's aunt had her doctor write up something to say her dog is a therapy dog. The only reason she did this is because the dog doesn't like to be left home alone.!!!! Three people all with the same affliction??? Give me a break...........I know someone with handicap plates because he drives his mother to Walmart once a week but parks in handicapped spots without her............really?? Unfortunately people are selfish and will try to skirt any rule that they don't feel they like. Others will bend over backwards just to see if they can. Can't go out to dinner without your dog???? Really??

Hitting the "like" button

Have a hard time understand why 3 people had the same problem and were together at City Fire. Maybe a new club!>!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by CFrance

"Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass, but the same people here have NO regard for people who are not accustomed to animals in a dining area next to them, and NO regard for those who are obviously traumatized by real experience with a dog attacking and/or biting them????"

Because it's the law! If you don't like it, work to change the law. But good luck. Disabled people have been discriminated against longer than people of color. They have rights that need to be upheld. If you are afraid of dogs and walk into a resto with a service dog, walk out.

Originally Posted by ilovetv

This thread is not about true service dogs. It's about dogs about whom there is significant doubt about their valid service credentials.....as the original poster doubted the service credentials of the three dogs in City Fire-BW.

I am responding ONLY to the comment" Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass" and not about anything else--not the OP's post or anything other than the comment about people with disability "getting a pass." The term "supposed disabled person" requires a response, in my opinion, as it is very pejorative in the context of the post.

[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I am responding ONLY to the comment" Why is it that the supposed disabled person gets all this empathy and a pass" and not about anything else--not the OP's post or anything other than the comment about people with disability "getting a pass." The term "supposed disabled person" requires a response, in my opinion, as it is very pejorative in the context of the post.

"Supposed" disabled person refers to the person using fake service dog credentials, or lying about the need for a "comfort dog" which isn't even allowed in restaurants even if it IS credentialed as a comfort dog.

There have been numerous accounts here of people who use fake credentials. "Supposed" is not "perjorative" when "faking" legality and lying about it to officials is the topic.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

"Supposed" disabled person refers to the person using fake service dog credentials, or lying about the need for a "comfort dog" which isn't even allowed in restaurants even if it IS credentialed as a comfort dog.

There have been numerous accounts here of people who use fake credentials. "Supposed" is not "perjorative" when "faking" legality and lying about it to officials is the topic.

I stand by my original understanding of your statement having to do with people with disabilities getting a pass, not with the comfort dogs in OP's post. But I'm outta here. This is getting personal. Last you'll hear from me.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

This thread is not about true service dogs. It's about dogs about whom there is significant doubt about their valid service credentials.....as the original poster doubted the service credentials of the three dogs in City Fire-BW.

We don't know that. Let's remember that the employee said they were.

Throughout this thread I have repeatedly seen the terms "Service Dogs", "Comfort Dogs" and "Therapy Dogs" used interchangeably. They are not the same. My dogs "worked" as therapy dogs at a nursing home, it did not afford them the same rights as a Service Dog.

When Service Dogs are being trained they are given paperwork from the organization stating who is training and the organization involved. In an effort to get them exposed to everything they encourage restaurants, stores and the general public to accept these animals on the premises, but cannot demand compliance.

AFAIK, there are at least 12 service dogs being trained in TV, some will go to the blind, Wounded Warriers and some will go back into breeding.

Maybe, the next time you see this sort of thing instead of just assuming the worst, and basing that opinion on NOTHING, take a minute and think about how much the trainers/handlers put into this. Think about the people who need these animals and finally think about how these animals give their entire life to helping others.

[CFrance]

Thanks, Patty, for a good thought and explanation.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Patty55

We don't know that. Let's remember that the employee said they were.

Throughout this thread I have repeatedly seen the terms "Service Dogs", "Comfort Dogs" and "Therapy Dogs" used interchangeably. They are not the same. My dogs "worked" as therapy dogs at a nursing home, it did not afford them the same rights as a Service Dog.

When Service Dogs are being trained they are given paperwork from the organization stating who is training and the organization involved. In an effort to get them exposed to everything they encourage restaurants, stores and the general public to accept these animals on the premises, but cannot demand compliance.

AFAIK, there are at least 12 service dogs being trained in TV, some will go to the blind, Wounded Warriers and some will go back into breeding.

Maybe, the next time you see this sort of thing instead of just assuming the worst, and basing that opinion on NOTHING, take a, minute and think about how much the trainers/handlers put into this. Think about the people who need these animals and finally think about how these animals give their entire life to helping others.

Amen, Patty

[BobnBev]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

"Supposed" disabled person refers to the person using fake service dog credentials, or lying about the need for a "comfort dog" which isn't even allowed in restaurants even if it IS credentialed as a comfort dog.

There have been numerous accounts here of people who use fake credentials. "Supposed" is not "perjorative" when "faking" legality and lying about it to officials is the topic.

Whats perjorative mean, anyways?

[jblum315]

"perjorative" means slanderous

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by The Great Fumar

Thanks for letting us know to scratch Codys off the list !!!!!

Has anyone a pen ????

penless Fumar

You haven't posted too much lately Fumar.

Many new people might believe you are serious instead of extremely witty as us oldies know you are.

This is a very, very, delicate and very volatile thread.

And even if you did mean it, which you have a right to do, I know that you are a great wit and often pull our legs.

Deep breaths everyone. There is too much awful stuff without adding this issue to it.