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retiredguy123 06-23-2023 07:19 AM
Note that no one is required to pay income tax on tips that they did not earn. The IRS rule for servers is 8 percent of gross restaurant sales. A server can declare a lesser amount when they file their tax return, but they need to be prepared to prove it to the IRS, with contemporaneous records, if they are audited.

jparsoneau@aol.com 06-23-2023 07:32 AM
Leaving a 5% tip should be shameful

Chamo 06-23-2023 07:36 AM
Disgusting to only tip 5%. You should be ashamed of yourself. You should just stay home and cook for yourself and clean up your own mess.

rickaslin 06-23-2023 07:38 AM
5 % Tipper
 
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.
I hope the local wait staff see your comment on 5% tipping and give you the sevice that you deserve!!

jimkerr 06-23-2023 07:40 AM
I always tip a minimum of 20% for any food establishment. Some restaurants take the 3% credit card fee they get charged out of the wait staffs tips. FMK does this for example. I tried to get an explanation from FMK on their Facebook page, they deleted my comment. :)

Pennyt 06-23-2023 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2228860)
And then watch people bitch when prices are raised to provide employees with a livable wage!
I think they do more than "just bring a plate over." A 5% tip is way way low considering these people are paid less than minimum wage. 15 - 20% tip would be considered standard.

Chi-Town 06-23-2023 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.
Mr. Pink would be proud of you.

Pennyt 06-23-2023 07:44 AM
5% tip? Way too low for someone who makes less than minimum wage! 15-20% would be considered standard. Unless the service was horrible, I would be embarrassed to leave a tip of 5%.

Whitley 06-23-2023 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2228858)
Because if their tips, combined with their wages, equals the state minimum wage, then it's as if they didn't get any tip at all. The most they can get - if you UNDER-tip, is $11/hour. Even if they work their butts off, go beyond the minimum requirements of their job to give you outstanding customer service, and have earned more - they will have nothing to show for that extra work. Tip them substandard, and you should expect substandard service.

Their hourly wage is LESS than minimum wage. Their tips are expected to compensate for that, in this state. In many other states, the tip is intended to show appreciation for doing MORE than the minimum requirement for the job. Some restaurant policies also start their wait staff at minimum or better, with the tips being theirs to keep if they earn them.

It's an incentive for GOOD wait staff to show up and serve you.
So then do you not tip at Starbucks, chinese take out, to go orders?

Gullwing 06-23-2023 07:51 AM
Restaurant staff
 
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2228835)
Do waitresses in restaurant's around TV share their tips?
A new twist. We were at a restaurant in Fredrick Maryland. When you entered they swiped your credit card and gave you a card to use. There is a wall of taps. You put their card in a spot at the tap you want, your name comes up and you pour what you want. It measures by the tenth of an ounce and displays your price. Very much like a gas pump. The beverages range from beer to cocktails to wine. You go to a small counter to order food. They swipe the card and text you when it’s ready. When done eating you buss your table.
No waitress, buss boys. Just minimum staff. The place was busy.

Whitley 06-23-2023 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2228944)
Do you know if the moon is still made out of green cheese?
Why would it not be? Do you know something?

Whitley 06-23-2023 08:10 AM
In my life, suggested tip has gone from 10%, to 12%, to 15%, to 20% and now I am seeing "suggested" tips options including 25%.

My wife and I go out each Saturday. The bill averages between 100.00-125.00. For 90 minutes I am tipping 20.00 to 25.00. This is on top of the low wage, but in addition to other tips he/she is working. At the one location I can easily see them pulling in 100.00 plus an hour. At a less expensive restaurant it can cost 30.00 to 45.00. Same work the tip would be 6.00 to 9.00.
I think 20% min is high. I think having a percentage is unfair to people working at lower ticket locations. For a $3.50 coffee I will tip $5.00. It really is a messed up system. We are now seeing, at self check-outs, a tip prompt. You do the work, ring up the charge, and are asked to leave a tip.

dtennent 06-23-2023 08:12 AM
For the waiter/waitress who gives me excellent service, I always leave 20+% tip. At my age, the few extra dollars mean much more to the server than they do to me.

Velvet 06-23-2023 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2228991)
In my life, suggested tip has gone from 10%, to 12%, to 15%, to 20% and now I am seeing "suggested" tips options including 25%.

My wife and I go out each Saturday. The bill averages between 100.00-125.00. For 90 minutes I am tipping 20.00 to 25.00. This is on top of the low wage, but in addition to other tips he/she is working. At the one location I can easily see them pulling in 100.00 plus an hour. At a less expensive restaurant it can cost 30.00 to 45.00. Same work the tip would be 6.00 to 9.00.
I think 20% min is high. I think having a percentage is unfair to people working at lower ticket locations. For a $3.50 coffee I will tip $5.00. It really is a messed up system. We are now seeing, at self check-outs, a tip prompt. You do the work, ring up the charge, and are asked to leave a tip.
I tip regularly but suggestions for a tip always feel insulting to me. I always pick 0. Then if there is reason I leave cash.

cjrjck 06-23-2023 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by westernrider75 (Post 2228907)
I would disagree, I have worked in several chain restaurants and never tip pooled. Out of my tips I did have to tip the bartender for service bar and food runners if there was one on schedule that shift, but never pooled tips.
Same. Servers only tipped bartenders and bussers and it was usually up to the server how much. Never shared tips with kitchen staff. I would imagine that one of the few restaurants where tip sharing with the cooks is required would be those establishments where the food is cooked at the table.

Lea N 06-23-2023 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2228866)
If their tips are cash, minimum taxes are do and many are reported.
If tips are added to a credit card, all taxes apply.

Also, is it rude to ask your waiter if tips are pooled or not?
No, it isn't rude to ask your waiter if tips are pooled.

RonGee 06-23-2023 08:47 AM
With dinning prices up costing more to eat the same meal this year than in the past we end up tipping based on the price of the meal. Logically the servers are performing the same service they did in the past, so they in reality the servers have raised their income for providing the same service.Just a thought, I still tip 20%.

bp243 06-23-2023 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2228925)
I don’t have answer but I always tip at 20% for good service , more if exceptional service. I give the tip in cash to my server.
Agree with this sentiment and it sounds like every establishment has a different system for sharing that tip. Tipping is a part of our current way to support those who are working hard to make a decent living. If you’re in a position where your needs are covered and you’re enjoying a meal out, it’s a ‘feel good time’ to compliment someone who services you with their ability to add to your ‘feel good evening’ out while waiting on you with their service. Tip means ‘To Insure Promptness’ so it implies that you are happy with your service. If unhappy, walk away or tip according to your service.

Vermilion Villager 06-23-2023 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.
Hmmmmm.... 15% has been the norm for as long as I can remember. Based on the amount you tip and the justification for that low tip, and then applying your own logic you're placing yourself in the 75% category. :BigApplause:

Two Bills 06-23-2023 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2228980)
So then do you not tip at Starbucks, chinese take out, to go orders?
Certainly not.
Would tip a delivery driver though.
Tipping is out of hand in US. and I have always been a good tipper for wait staff, but all this talk of 20%-25% on a bill is nuts.
Be tipping every shop assistant in Publix, Walmart etc. soon!

OhioBuckeye 06-23-2023 09:34 AM
If you put tip on credit card they share it with bar tender, cash they can stuff it in their pocket. At least this is what a waitress told me. Whatever you comment back to me I’ll beleive it, no point in arguing about this, I tip & it’s their tip so they can do whatever they want with it!

conman5652@aol.com 06-23-2023 09:56 AM
They do more then bring u a plate. Remember their pay per hour is less then half the current Fl minimum wage. So yes cheap people like u my be keeping good servers from working in the bubble.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyhope (Post 2228916)
Sorry to disagree with you. If you only tip 5%, maybe you should just eat at home
Disagree! If you tip at all it is a gratuity (gift of appreciation), an unfortunate and demeaning custom that presume "class" difference, But, it is not a requirement or law.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2229033)
They do more then bring u a plate. Remember their pay per hour is less then half the current Fl minimum wage. So yes cheap people like u my be keeping good servers from working in the bubble.
That restaurants screw customers by guilt tripping them into paying Their employees wages and took responsibility for their employees, tipping would still
occur, albeit not as often or to such expense.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pennyt (Post 2228979)
5% tip? Way too low for someone who makes less than minimum wage! 15-20% would be considered standard. Unless the service was horrible, I would be embarrassed to leave a tip of 5%.
Your embarrassment is your problem. You have been emotionally blackmailed into believing the restaurants employees wages are your responsibility.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2228944)
Do you know if the moon is still made out of green cheese?
It's not the cheese that is green. It's the mold.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2228893)
Personally, I think that if people stopped tipping servers completely, the service in restaurants would get better, not worse. Restaurants would need to hire better employees, pay them more, and they would have more control over their performance. I agree with the poster who said that tipping is nonsense.
Agree. If tips were only for truly special, over the top service, and not for standard average, then service would likely get better.

gmnirr 06-23-2023 10:49 AM
Tipping
 
Don't dishwashers and cooks get minimum wage of $15, why would they get part of the servers tip ?

ThirdOfFive 06-23-2023 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2228852)
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean they don't do it. At Gator's Dockside, all tips that are on debit/credit cards get pooled by wait staff, bartenders, hosts, and kitchen staff for the shift.

Give your wait staff their tip in cash, and make sure to hand it to them personally. Otherwise - it'll be pooled.
Bingo.

I tip on the quality of the service: 10% for meeting expectations, 15%, 20% or more for really great service. But always in cash, and I make sure that I give it to the waitperson. What they do with the tip after that is their own affair, but at least they know their work is being rewarded and to what extent.

Laker14 06-23-2023 12:59 PM
the system is what the system is. It certainly isn't the system I would design, but it's unlikely to change much.
Basically, it's simple.
If you don't tip, or you tip 5%, all of your arguments are really just a cover for being a cheap SOB. Period.
Enjoy your meal.
(I have never been a tipped employee)

Pugchief 06-23-2023 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2228842)
Good question. But this is the Villages…many cheap tippers here. My guess..75% tip almost nothing or substandard tips. 20% tip the recommended amount. 5% tip too much and love to brag on totv that they are as generous as Frank Sinatra in his heyday.

Personally…i tip no more than 5%. Why tip to just bring a plate over.

Time to stop this tipping nonsence. Wait…next year it will be suggested u tip 25%.
If you can't afford to tip 15-20%, don't eat out. Whether you agree with the "system" of gratuities in the US is immaterial; that's the way it is and the servers depend on the tips to make wages.

Michael G. 06-23-2023 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2229074)
the system is what the system is. It certainly isn't the system I would design, but it's unlikely to change much.
Like removing Daylight Savings Time to one time only.

Ray Greene 06-23-2023 02:26 PM
The difference between intelligent and stupid is intelligence has limits. Where do small tippers fit?

Gpsma 06-23-2023 03:38 PM
This tipping at restaurants is getting absurd. If the owner raises his prices 10% because of inflation…im suppose to tip more to someone that cant get a meaningful job or education?

So do you tip at mcdonalds? Do you tip at anywhere but a sitdown restaurant?

Tipping should be for personal service only…not for a waitstaff hndling multiple tables.

But the FRANK SINATRA tipperas of the villages will always condemn those who reliaze thos tipping system is a joke

VApeople 06-23-2023 04:01 PM
I used to be a terrible tipper but I have changed. Maybe it is because our children are doing very well and they do not depend on us, or maybe because my wife and I are very glad to be alive and in good health, or maybe I have just become more aware of the people around me.

We meet a lot of young people who provide very good services for us, and we always thank them and give them a good (by our standards) tip.

We don't eat at restaurants that are more expensive than the country clubs and we do a lot of carry out. We always pay cash and tip about 25% or more. I guess I would not give a tip if the server or food provider was not nice, but we have never met anyone like that in our 7 years living here. Maybe because we smile and show them respect.

Vermilion Villager 06-23-2023 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gpsma (Post 2229091)
this tipping at restaurants is getting absurd. If the owner raises his prices 10% because of inflation…im suppose to tip more to someone that cant get a meaningful job or education?

so do you tip at mcdonalds? Do you tip at anywhere but a sitdown restaurant?

Tipping should be for personal service only…not for a waitstaff hndling multiple tables.

But the frank sinatra tipperas of the villages will always condemn those who reliaze thos tipping system is a joke
wow!!!!!

Gpsma 06-23-2023 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2229093)
I used to be a terrible tipper but I have changed. Maybe it is because our children are doing very well and they do not depend on us, or maybe because my wife and I are very glad to be alive and in good health, or maybe I have just become more aware of the people around me.

We meet a lot of young people who provide very good services for us, and we always thank them and give them a good (by our standards) tip.

We don't eat at restaurants that are more expensive than the country clubs and we do a lot of carry out. We always pay cash and tip about 25% or more. I guess I would not give a tip if the server or food provider was not nice, but we have never met anyone like that in our 7 years living here. Maybe because we smile and show them respect.
25%…that is ridiculous. For what? Just because they smiled at you?

Do you tip when you carry out?

Michael 61 06-23-2023 06:19 PM
It would be great if a current or former server from one of The Villages restaurants would chime in, and let us know if their tips were pooled or not.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-23-2023 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2228980)
So then do you not tip at Starbucks, chinese take out, to go orders?
Usually, no I don't. I tip for wait service or bartender service. I often put the change from my order into the tip jar but generally no, because cashiers are already getting $11/hour and they're not clearing my table, filling my water glass, bringing me more napkins or making sure I'm enjoying my meal. They take my money, and hand me a bag. They are being paid to give me good customer service, they don't rely on tips for that. Wait staff generally rely on tips for that.

fdpaq0580 06-23-2023 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2229075)
If you can't afford to tip 15-20%, don't eat out. Whether you agree with the "system" of gratuities in the US is immaterial; that's the way it is and the servers depend on the tips to make wages.
Are you implying we need to eat out because it is our responsibility to ensure that restaurant staff make a living wage? If restaurants payed their employees properly, tipping would be unnecessary and probably nonexistent. Customers have been conned into this tipping15, 20 and higher % because WE are their welfare subsidies. And the bs crack about "if you can't afford the tip", is just a passive-aggressive insult.


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