Cheapskate tippers always have reasons. Trouble is they are cheap in everything in their lives. So prattle on , no one's listening, certainly no one cares

Good service along with a pleasant demeanor goes a long way towards getting a good tip. Some of the servers believe they are doing us a favor. They are not, it's their job. There are servers who make a lot of money on tips, they treat their customers like they want to be treated and it pays off. What a concept!!!!

Does anyone wonder why a tipping post keeps resurfacing over and over again? I could care less what anyone else tips. If wait staff gives great service, they get what I believe they should get. If they don't give great service, they won't. It's a pretty simple process.

It surfaces because of peoples' increasing displeasure over the business community, that has been trying to pressure customers to give higher and higher tips and to tip for services that, in the past, they have never even asked for a tip. Many people do not like being pressured by a business to provide a tip that they don't think is warranted. The tip jars have been replaced by a touch screen that asks the customer for a tip and even suggests the amount of the tip. Some people feel intimidated by this, but others don't. Recently, tipping has been a national news story.

Depending on the buisness! Cracker Barrel doesn't split their tips .!
I always Hand the waitress cash in their hands

tip
 

If you can afford to eat out you can afford to tip - they don't get paid what you did up north

Chattanooga Too
 

We stopped at a place like that in Chattanooga - very cool (nearly needed a Lyft home).

If you mean the 3% they are charged on the amount of the tip only then I see no problem with them doing this. If they are taking the full merchant participation fee for the full amount charged on the bill, then shame on them!

If they are taking the full merchant fee, they are stealing. I don't know why more servers don't hire an employment lawyer and sue the restaurant. I think Dan Newlin or other lawyers would be happy to sue weathy restaurant owners for some of the illegal activities that some posters are describing.

We played a late round of golf yesterday, and decided on an easy dinner. I ordered sandwiches from Jersey Mike's via the mobile app, for pickup on our way home. During the checkout phase on the app, a screen pops up asking how much I want to tip. What? For an order placed on an app, that I will pick up...a tip for what? And who exactly would get the tip if I left one? What's next...will Amazon begin soliciting tips for online orders?

Because Florida is an "at will" state, without its own labor department, and you'd need to file a lawsuit on a federal level because the state just flat out doesn't care. They don't care about low-wage workers. At all. The lawyers don't care, the judges don't care, the officials - elected and appointed - don't care. This is an anti-union state as well, so you won't even see the Teamsters rallying around to an opportunity to recruit.

You work where you work, you get paid what they pay you. If you don't like it, you leave and try to find something better. If they think you're making waves, they fire you "for cause" and you don't even get to collect unemployment. For part-timers earning $300/week at their job, the most they can get with unemployment is $150/week, for 26 weeks. That's it. That covers the utilities and phone bill. Good luck with your rent.

Tip pool
 

I worked for a restaurant in Sumter Landing Was told our tips had to be put in the jar at the register for sharing. If you put the cash in your pocket you were fired. The managers tallied them up at the end of the day. They were shared with kitchen help, buss people, 2 managers & cash register employee on our shifts & among all the servers. We only ended up with between 8.00 & 18.00 in tips for the day. It’s sad because one of the servers was handed a 20.00 tip from her customer, put it in the jar & at the end of the day only received 20.00 in tips.

Don't assume servers don't have memory....
 

What most of the cheap substandard tippers may not have taken into consideration that wait staff including the waitresses, bartenders and even the person who is the maître d' do have a memory.... And through the evening they talk to one another, and keep track of these types..
I used to work as a bartender and I clearly remembered who was a decent tipper and who was not. Usually that substandard tipper was a jerk who felt he or she was entitled or better than you. I don't wanna get flagged so I will not rip the actual persons name on this particular thread but you can go back and look at his post and clearly see he is one of the people I am talking about. Yes he will get service… Will he get great service....nope!!! And what does entitled person who thinks I am unemployable and can only get this job doesn't realize is the next time he comes back we all remember who he was.

And they would be the first person to complain about bad service or if the restaurants raise prices to cover wage increases for the servers.

Excellent point. Being remembered positively is certainly a valid reason for tipping. Back in Minnesota we ate often at Asian restaurants. I'd always leave my (generous) tip in $2 bills--I was told by a couple of Asian waitstaff that $2 bills are seen as good luck. After a couple of visits we were immediately recognized and our service was fantastic.

Same thing on cruises. We never buy the drink packages but pay with our room card at the bars. The tips are taken automatically from the card but are split among literally hundreds of people. I've found that tipping the bartender $1 for every drink I order ensures fast service AND generous pours.

BS! Just because someone thinks holding restaurant customers for emotional ransom for what should be a gift is inherently wrong, does not mean they don't tip or are not generous in other areas of their life.

Oh, and if no one is listening, why did you bother to respond.??

I think all US states are “at will” with maybe one or two exceptions.

Interesting! Instead of being thankful for whatever gift (tip/gratuity) you received, you consider the gift beneath your highbrow standards, hold a grudge against that customer and threaten them with substandard service. I think I would avoid that place since their kindness is for sale, like love at a bordello. It is fake!

So a win-win situation.

Arguing that tipping shouldn't be a customary practice or shouldn't be used to supplement wages is arguing against reality. You don't have to like it but to deny it makes you appear foolish. Tipping is reality, using tips to supplement wages is reality, that a server notices which customers tip well and which customers tip poorly should not be a surprise.

I bet (and I believe I read an article which supports this) that if a restaurant decided to do away with tips they would lose business. The restaurant would need to raise prices 18% to 20% in order to bring in enough money to pay the full wages of their staff. If their competitors did not do the same, their customers would complain about the increased prices. Ultimately, the customers act against their own best interests. Instead of paying 20% more for their meal with no tipping they would instead go next door where the prices were 20% less and then they would likely leave a larger tip in appreciation of the lower prices.

Sure, tip poorly but don't complain when you get the service you pay for.

Sure, argue that a restaurant should do away with tipping but don't complain when they raise prices to pay the wages without tips.

Or, quit complaining, accept reality, and treat your servers as nicely as you would like them to treat you.

I tip at least 20 percent, sometimes more because I have family members who are servers and depend on tips to pay their living expenses. If they don’t have a good attitude, I drop it a little but if they have a good attitude and just are not good as servers, I still tip 20 percent. If you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip!

We just double the tax comes to 15% that’s it.

That would be 40% in UK.:eek:
VAT on a restaurant meal is 20% here!

It's called service. U should be ashamed of Ur self!

I know. Dreadful chap. Heard he beats his wife as well. :icon_wink:

I get it... I NEVER use cash. But now I have a separate pile of cash that I use only for... tipping.

My dad used to say tip stands for “to insure promptness”, ie: to give the customer the attention to make their visit comfortable.
Tipping has gotten out of hand at some venues. For example you go to a frozen yogurt store, fill your own cup, apply toppings and then go pay and be expected to tip the cashier. For what? Taking your money? I agree big tippers like others say, are showing off and actually diminish services to reasonable tippers. I am a 20% guy, unless the service is terrible I will drop to 5% and percentages in between. I like to support those hard working people who can use extra bucks, but not because they are simply there, but because they are doing their job. One waitress moved us to a better table at Cody’s lake Sumter, she reminded me several times her doing so should be rewarded, which I was originally planning to do. Her insistence and subsequent poor service resulted in two things 1) a 10% tip (should have been 0) and 2) I don’t got to Cody’s LS restaurant and just stay at bar where service is good

Yes, of course. We have had a Jersey Mike's open up at Lake Deaton Plaza and we go there a lot. We tip 25% when we get a couple of their delicious subs.

To be honest, I think the reason they smile at us is because we smile at them first.

We went to Cody's a couple weeks ago but it was too loud inside and our waitress moved us to a nice table outside. She was a very good hard-working server and we gave her a good tip.

We like going to Cody's a lot. We once had a dinner at Red Sauce and my wife threw up that night, so we haven't gone back since.

For all bad tippers and whiners
 

to call bs . As sheldon says

Why would you tip someone who makes subs behind a counter? Are they putting the sub on a plate and bringing it to your table? Are they serving you your drink or do you have to use the self-serve? Do they bring you your napkin or do you have to serve that yourself too? Do they bus your table? Do they check on you during your meal to make sure everything tastes good and is satisfactory? Do they do anything that the guy behind the deli counter at Publix doesn't do? Those folks already get paid minimum wage or better. They don't rely on tips at all. There is no need to tip them at all. On the other hand if you toss a dollar, or the change from your total into the tip jar they'll appreciate it because it's a bonus on top of their regular pay.

If folks doing counter work continue to get more and more money from tips, their bosses will start considering them to be tipped employees and not hourly employees which means the boss can pay them LESS than minimum wage, and the employee now has to rely on those tips to equal minimum wage. It ceases to be a bonus.

I tip for restaurant service, based on the quality of the service. Terrible service doesn't deserve any tip at all. I don't tip for counter service or pick up orders. People who say they tip 20 percent automatically, even for terrible service, are not taking advantage of the voluntary tipping system.

BS= business standard. Your attachment never came up, so I am afraid I missed the point.
Here is a thought that occurred to me while out for lunch at one of our average restaurants. Wife and I ordered mid-priced meals and drinks. Waitress brought 2 drinks and 2 plates. Our "tip" was $10.00. Using us Ave "average" customers, using the small amount of time she spent with us and the 5 tables we observers her serve in the 30 minutes we were there, she could easily have picked up $@50.00 in tips on top of her wage. A hundred dollars an hour for ten tables of two people in tips. 1 +- minute to take and place order. 1 minute to deliver drinks. 1 minute to deliver food. 1> minute to drop check. 1+- minute relieve payment.
Remember, you are not their only customer/tipper. Five, ten, or more dumping lots of tip money every hour. If they have agreed to tip-share with salaried employees, that is on them.
Maybe, just maybe (depending on where they work) they are doing better than we have been led to believe.

5 percent tip-wow..
 

Wow 5 percent???? Those waitresses do more than "bring you a plate". Thats what fast food places do. That waitress takes you order, checks on your order, serves you, refreshes your beverage/bread basket--and asks how your food was. IF you treat them nicely, they are just incredible people who work hard for very little. Your tip means a LOT to them-thats how they survive.

Do you just make up the stuff you post on your own or do you have help?

State Labor Offices | U.S. Department of Labor (There's the FL Labor Department.

& here's what you really collect in unemployment in Florida.

Because they work hard and they treat all of the customers very well.

The above comment is definitely not true if you are taking about servers. The current Florida minimum wage for non-tipped employees is $11.00 per hour. That, by the way is in the top third of minimum wages in the US.

There is separate Florida minimum wage for tipped employees. That by itself is $7.98 which by itself is well over half of the minimum wage of non-tipped employees. However, the law basically requires the employer to pay a supplement to the employee if the tips do not reach the same level of pay the non-tipped employee minimum wage provides.

The result is that the tipped employees are insured of getting at least as much as non-tipped employees. Further, the tipped employee can far exceed the $11.00 figure. For example, today my wife and myself went to Mallory and our bill was $29.75 including taxes. We were there about 45 minutes. We tipped $6.00 in cash and paid the bill by credit card ie $29.75. There were at least two other tables of 4 being serviced by this server. Assuming at least a $50 tab per table and 20 % tipping would be another $20 tip, ie $26 of tips in 1 hour.

Cash tipping is not just a nicety. What it does is potentially allow the server to avoid sharing the tip and to potentially reduce income and tax liability. If servers netted less than dishwashers, I'm sure they would not still be servers.

Also, we shouldn't assume all servers are paid Tipped employee minimum wages.

One of my friends owns a bar and restaurant. She said her employees do not want to be paid a living wage. They love tips.

She said on a good night her employees can earn $500 or more in tips and $250 on a slow night. Working just four nights a week with two good nights and two slow nights, a person can make $1500 a week. With four weeks off for vacation, they can make more than $72,000 a year.

Assuming an 8 hour shift and just four tables per waitress and a 2 hour turnover per table, that is 16 tables per shift. (These are conservative numbers.)

According to my calculations, at $100 per table in revenue, that is $1600 per night.

A 15% tip is $240, 18% is $288, 20% is &320, and 25% is $400.

If all the Servers in Central Florida who are making $72,000 a year decided to go on a road trip together, during their 4 weeks vacation, they could all fit in a golf cart.

Context is everything.

That's why they get an hourly wage instead of sub-minimum relying on tips to equal that hourly wage.