[rubicon]

I posted this in Political Talk as a counter-response to the unpleasant atmosphere that lingers there. Then remembered that not all members subscribe to Political Talk.

TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members

I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.

If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.

Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.

We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.

We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.

We may disagree. We may be wrong.

We may make an honest mistake.

We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.

We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.

We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.

Respect is our motto.

What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".

Personal Best Regards

[CowBubba]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I posted this in Political Talk as a counter-response to the unpleasant atmosphere that lingers there. Then remembered that not all members subscribe to Political Talk.

TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members

I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.

If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.

Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.

We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.

We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.

We may disagree. We may be wrong.

We may make an honest mistake.

We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.

We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.

We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.

Respect is our motto.

What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".

Personal Best Regards

Very honorable OP. Too many post are sarcastic or just gossipy. Your thread should be a sticky.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I posted this in Political Talk as a counter-response to the unpleasant atmosphere that lingers there. Then remembered that not all members subscribe to Political Talk.



TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members



I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.



If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.



Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.



We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.



We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.



We may disagree. We may be wrong.



We may make an honest mistake.



We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.



We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.



We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.



Respect is our motto.



What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".



Personal Best Regards

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[Aloha1]

Well put. If you can't play nice, don't play at all.

[Schaumburger]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Well put. If you can't play nice, don't play at all.

Agree with this. I try to play nice with all...after all I could be living next door to you in The Villages one day, or standing in line behind you at Publix, Winn Dixie, or waiting for a table at City Fire, Nancy Lopez or Cane Garden. "In everything do to others as you would have them do to you..."

[NotGolfer]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I posted this in Political Talk as a counter-response to the unpleasant atmosphere that lingers there. Then remembered that not all members subscribe to Political Talk.

TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members

I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.

If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.

Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.

We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.

We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.

We may disagree. We may be wrong.

We may make an honest mistake.

We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.

We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.

We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.

Respect is our motto.

What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".

Personal Best Regards

[perrjojo]

We, the people, seem to have lost all interest in another's opinions or ideas. There is no longer a word called compromise in our vocabulary. This worries me. Anomity of the internet seems to give some permission to be crude, rude and condescending. I just don't get it.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by rubicon

TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members

I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.

If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.

Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.

We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.

We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.

We may disagree. We may be wrong.

We may make an honest mistake.

We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.

We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.

We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.

Respect is our motto.

What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I posted this in Political Talk as a counter-response to the unpleasant atmosphere that lingers there. Then remembered that not all members subscribe to Political Talk.

TOTV means this to me and I suspect most members

I refrain from making an attempt to unmask a poster who shares their views on Political Talk. And by unmasking I mean not going to the trouble to find out the username behind the ubiquitous "guest". Or, if in the post the poster uses his/her identity will continue with the "guest" identity. There was one exception last week but it was done so in a friendly exchange.

If one looks back the lack of civility began when posters found methods of unmasking other posters.

Call me naive' but my view concerning TOTV is that this forum provides all of us an opportunity to express our views. some people will share them, some will find them offensive and some won't even noticed we posted a comment.

We approach with what we believe is a good faith effort to be honest, fair, balanced.

We respond to the content of the post and avoid direct and personal attacks on the poster.

We may disagree. We may be wrong.

We may make an honest mistake.

We may not be at our best on a certain day and fail to express our views clearly.

We may have made a mistake even posting on some days because something/someone put us in a foul mood.

We do make an effort to save face either by being reticent when others offend or are glaringly wrong in our view.

Respect is our motto.

What most us will not do is become so invested, so seriously engaged in what is nothing more than conversation via a keyboard that we become paranoid , trolls ,hateful or spiteful because we understand that most members on this forum are people living in this community and the vast majority are respectful, honest caring human beings that believe in"live let live".

Personal Best Regards

I must disagree with your position.

I find the use of "Guest" for the authorship of all posts in the Political Forum to be most confusing. For that reason, in any posting that I make in response to the postings of others, I include their screen name. And I sign every posting that I make.

I do this without rancor towards the posters, but rather to make the exchanges of opinions coherent to me. I am personally acquainted with absolutely no one on this board except Gracie, and do not know the real names behind any of the screen names. And, if I were responding to one of Gracie's "Guest" posts, I would include her name.

For years I have been posting on this board with what I considered courtesy and respect towards other posters. I didn't call names or become verbally abusive. In recent days that has changed slightly.

One poster on the political forum ranted and raved so much against Trump that I identified the posts as evidence of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Another was so virulent towards the Black race that I identified his posts with "Race Derangement Syndrome," and of course there was the one poster who seemed always seeking to attack me, personally. His posts became evidence of "Carl Derangement Syndrome." These were all in fun, of course.

I have even gone so far as to post my photo to a thread so that I could be identified if seen out in public, where I would be happy to talk to any person who is on TOTV. I consider these people to be my friends even if we disagree on issues.

And.........Carl is my real name.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

I must disagree with your position.

I find the use of "Guest" for the authorship of all posts in the Political Forum to be most confusing. For that reason, in any posting that I make in response to the postings of others, I include their screen name. And I sign every posting that I make.

I do this without rancor towards the posters, but rather to make the exchanges of opinions coherent to me. I am personally acquainted with absolutely no one on this board except Gracie, and do not know the real names behind any of the screen names. And, if I were responding to one of Gracie's "Guest" posts, I would include her name.

For years I have been posting on this board with what I considered courtesy and respect towards other posters. I didn't call names or become verbally abusive. In recent days that has changed slightly.

One poster on the political forum ranted and raved so much against Trump that I identified the posts as evidence of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" Another was so virulent towards the Black race that I identified his posts with "Race Derangement Syndrome," and of course there was the one poster who seemed always seeking to attack me, personally. His posts became evidence of "Carl Derangement Syndrome." These were all in fun, of course.

I have even gone so far as to post my photo to a thread so that I could be identified if seen out in public, where I would be happy to talk to any person who is on TOTV. I consider these people to be my friends even if we disagree on issues.

And.........Carl is my real name.

Carl, I respect your opinion and I do understand your position on this matter, and to a certain degree, agree.

I have only met in person one member of this forum and it was purely by accident , recognizing the member's photo. I introduced myself by my username and referred to the member using the member's username. I would not presume anymore informality. Two other members know my real name and I their's . I have respected their privacy and I believe they respected mine.

I believed TOTV was correct when they decided to make application to the ubiquitous username "guest" and the inability to PM anyone. I did so because the original Political forum turned into such a hate feast. I see Political Talk going in that same direction. However the difference was that attacks could only be directed at "guest" until some learned the method of unmasking.

Now these same hateful trolls have a username and can harass via PM. They did unmercifully with one long time member ridiculing a member and the member's family. It was why Political forum was dissolved Least we forget there is one present member who was about verbally beaten to death; albeit the member periodically instigated

You reference two unpleasant characters and calling them out. In my view you will not change their behaviors its way too late and all one can do is express one's view on the subject matter and move along. In my view there is a difference between a heated debate and outright hateful personal attacks

Again TOTV was prescient in planning and added the "Ignore List'" which acts as a counter measure to the isolated terrorist attacks rendered by some of the more unpleasant posters.

I believe most on this forum practice "judge not least thee be judged" and most will be respectful but based on content some of these posters do not understand limits, saving face or fair play. Understandably many posters prefer anonymity for that reason and in addition to feeling more at ease when expressing their views.

Personal Best Regards:

[Carl in Tampa]

In the original post, Rubicon discusses the concept of "unmasking" in the political forum to discover the screen names of posters. I was not aware that this was a big deal since I had previously been told by someone that using TapATalk he saw all screen names associated with postings. Then I noticed that off to the side of postings, outside of the content, I could see who was doing the posting.

I like knowing who I'm hearing from and who I'm talking to. Using their screen names in the discussion is not malicious on my part, and it avoids confusion.

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[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

In the original post, Rubicon discusses the concept of "unmasking" in the political forum to discover the screen names of posters. I was not aware that this was a big deal since I had previously been told by someone that using TapATalk he saw all screen names associated with postings. Then I noticed that off to the side of postings, outside of the content, I could see who was doing the posting.

I like knowing who I'm hearing from and who I'm talking to. Using their screen names in the discussion is not malicious on my part, and it avoids confusion.

.

I went over to the dark side a couple of times............I was surprised I could see the screen names. I'm not a TapATalk user. I'm just glad I made it back to "The Friendliest Side".

[Bay Kid]

Peace

[justjim]

Rubicon, I have posted my opinion regarding the Political Forum a couple of times on TOTV. It is very similar to yours----nice post. I enjoy a good political discussion but very rarely even view the political forum anymore as much of the posting there has turned into disrespectful "Nonsense". Most of us have better things to do with our time.