[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

He was traffic violator and should got ticket…. Yep, hardly nobody get traffic violation in villages that’s why the violators drive like Indy car drivers.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Rocksnap

Traffic circles have speed limits? I’m a whole lot more worried about those that change lanes while IN the circle. Twice recently other cars not staying in their lane and trying to take me out while in the circle. Meaning, them changing lanes while in the circle. A clear violation, where is Popo when you need them?

I like the ones that stop before entering roundabout with NO traffic in sight looking to left. These are probably same ones that don’t stop at stop signs or pull put into intersection before A driver only has to yield to all traffic coming around roundabout not stop then look, should have been looking before you get there. Then there ones that stay in right lane going to 3rd exit total idiots looking to get hit or cause accident.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

No, my interpretation slow down approaching roundabout, 20 MPH maximum in roundabout, and resume speed limit after roundabout unless otherwise posted.

[Captainpd]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

And I thought no one saw me..

[jimkerr]

People actually worry about roundabout speed limits? Just move and get outta there! Don’t overthink it.

[talonip]

I live in St John. When approaching the okahumka RB from the north and taking the third exit to the Okuhumka gate, cars approaching the RB from the south are traveling at high speeds exceeding 50.

Who has the right of way sir?
Is the approaching and speeding vehicle or the vehicle in the RB? I have had to stop for these jerks playing chicken. In the last month there have been two accidents at the exit from this RB. So I care about speeding traffic approaching the RBS.

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

I wonder if the rain will stop by 7PM

And if the Costco will open soon.

[MicRoDrafting]

Originally Posted by Berwin

Having been a deputy sheriff, I can say that, in Arkansas at least (where I was a LEO), the speed limit is in effect at the sign. I've known other LEOs who were sticklers for this (running up their ticket score) and others who were a lot more lenient and let you coast down to the limit once you passed the sign as long as it was safe.

RESPECTFULLY
I disagree with slowing
down to 20 mph at the sign.

the MUTCD, FDOT and IMSA classify this Yellow Background w Black Lettering Diamond shaped type of SIGN as “Advisory”, aka: a Warning to Traffic Conditions the motorist is Approaching, and …

… the Fact that there is a diagram of a Roundabout above the [advised] speed limit provides the reason for this posted sign.

this is NOT an opinion:
Presently Employed as

Transportation Engineering Technician Class II
City of Ocala Engineer’s Office
w “IMSA Traffic and Signage” Certification

[Lancer]

As the officer said to me as he was handing me my ticket, “you can’t go through the door until you open it.” In other words the speed limit starts at the sign.

[LoveGolfing]

There is nothing wrong with roundabouts, the problem is too many people not knowing how to drive in them. Making a right turn into a village from the left lane and cutting in front of someone in the right lane is totally unacceptable.

[BubblesandPat]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Happens often. Yesterday, nearing a RB in right lane at 35, a car sped around me at high (45-50?), cut in front of me in the right lane. No sign of slowing, braking pushing in ahead of car coming around. He went straight ahead into the center lane, then cut back to the right lane to exit. Basically "straighten out the curve" of the traffic circle. These are community streets and roads, not race courses.
One incident I know, but we see idiots behind the wheel every time we go out. Can't wait for ai/robot chauffeur where every cyberdriver has the same safe view of every situation.

I see this all the time. People driving in the center (using both lanes) around the roundabout to "straighten " it. Very dangerous. I dont get the hurry. Meggison road over near Lake Okahumpka seems to be a fun "challenge " for many...they try to see how fast they can go around the curves. I've seen people go at least 70. Im a sure one day we will see someone lose control and land on the golfcart path. Never seen a cop on that road and I travel it everyday.

[sowilts]

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

My Vehicle reads the warning signs and start to slow down. Once the white speed limit is in view slows down to posted speed limit. Excellent feature for School zones.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting

RESPECTFULLY
I disagree with slowing
down to 20 mph at the sign.

the MUTCD, FDOT and IMSA classify this Yellow Background w Black Lettering Diamond shaped type of SIGN as “Advisory”, aka: a Warning to Traffic Conditions the motorist is Approaching, and …

… the Fact that there is a diagram of a Roundabout above the [advised] speed limit provides the reason for this posted sign.

this is NOT an opinion:
Presently Employed as

Transportation Engineering Technician Class II
City of Ocala Engineer’s Office
w “IMSA Traffic and Signage” Certification

What is your “NOT an opinion” of the situation we have where the speed limit sign is black and white?

[crash]

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

Haven’t worried about it but believe your interpretation of it is wrong. Within the traffic circle the speed limit is 20 mph and then back to the speed limit on the street which is 35 mph.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by talonip

Who has the right of way sir?
Is the approaching and speeding vehicle or the vehicle in the RB?

Circles are inside out. Assuming a two land circle, the inside land, number 1 lane, gets the right of way. It must be this way, else the car in lane 1 may be stuck in that lane for a long time if there is traffic.
The outside land, number 2 lane, must yield to lane 1 but has the right of way over traffic outside the circle.
Lastly, outside the circle must yield to both lanes inside the circle. In that way, it is like an on-ramp for a highway.

The dotted lines in the circle show where lane 1 can exit, crossing over lane 2. All lanes should signal their exists, like on all other parts of the road, but it is especially important when there are cars in the other lanes and/or waiting to enter.