[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by BubblesandPat

I've seen people go at least 70.

No you have not. Cars in the Tour de France take corners at an average speed of 25 mph, and they are designed for cornering.
70 mph is a ridiculous speed to claim. 40 maybe, if the care is designed with little or no lean like a Mini Cooper, but absolutely not 70.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by talonip

I live in St John. When approaching the okahumka RB from the north and taking the third exit to the Okuhumka gate, cars approaching the RB from the south are traveling at high speeds exceeding 50.

Who has the right of way sir?
Is the approaching and speeding vehicle or the vehicle in the RB? I have had to stop for these jerks playing chicken. In the last month there have been two accidents at the exit from this RB. So I care about speeding traffic approaching the RBS.

You are right to be concerned! Speeders, tailgaters, and others seem to like showing off their idiocy and lack of consideration or respect for others by trying to intimidate others. They intentionally put others at risk, often for their very lives.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by jimkerr

People actually worry about roundabout speed limits? Just move and get outta there! Don’t overthink it.

Yes, serious individuals do realize that the 20 mph caution is there because that is what is recommended safe speed is for the average car/driver under optimum conditions. Just like posted speed limits are for average car/driver under optimum condition. You can go slower for safety under less than good conditions (darkness, fog, rain, snow, etc.)! But, only authorized emergency responders (police, fire/rescue, ambulance) may exceed the posted legal speed limit in performance of their duties. Driving is potentially deadly. Don't under think it!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by sowilts

My Vehicle reads the warning signs and start to slow down. Once the white speed limit is in view slows down to posted speed limit. Excellent feature for School zones.

Sadly, most don't have that feature.

[annecobb]

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

Many speed signs seem to be "suggestions". What I am concerned about is the level of traffic noise which has been amplified by the reduction of natural sound barriers such as trees which have been cleared. But more importantly, there are folks with cars that have added exhaust sound enhancers, exhaust sound roarers, exhaust sound speakers for the individual that wants to sound like they are at NASCAR. I don't understand why we need mufflers with all these accessories of noise. It is disenchanting that this goes unchallenged because I have noticed several cars just cruising with these accessories. Florida mufflers are suppose to be around 68 decibels but this exceeds this as well. And I would imagine no one is interested in enforcing this.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

What is your “NOT an opinion” of the situation we have where the speed limit sign is black and white?

I'm confused also???

[Jalane]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I like the ones that stop before entering roundabout with NO traffic in sight looking to left. These are probably same ones that don’t stop at stop signs or pull put into intersection before they stop. Way roundabout efficient driver only has to yield to all traffic coming around roundabout not stop then look, should have been looking before you get there. Then there ones that stay in right lane going to 3rd exit total idiots looking to get hit or cause accident.

I think people stay in the right lane (instead of using the left lane when entering a RB and planning to exit at the 3rd exit) because people complain when a car crosses in front of them from them to exit at the 3rd exit.

[Jalane]

Originally Posted by Gil Chapin

Perhaps this has been covered (probably many times), but I didn't find it.

As one approaches most traffic circles, there is usually a traffic sign with a yellow diamond containing a traffic circle indicator above a typical speed limit sign, indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour.

It seems that most people loosely interpret those signs to mean the speed limit within the traffic circle is 20 mph.

Another interpretation might be that the speed limit sign is indeed a "normal" speed limit sign. By normal, I mean that it indicates the start of a new speed limit. In this case, the speed limit changes at the sign from 35 mph to 20 mph. That means that once the sign is passed the speed limit is immediately 20 mph, not only within the traffic circle, but also on the approach to the traffic circle at any point past the sign. That further implies that one must be doing no more than 20 mph when the speed limit sign is passed until another speed limit sign changes the speed limit again.

My observations suggest that no one, except me, has ever considered the latter interpretation, and many drivers barely make it into the 20s as they enter the traffic circle, with others never slowing down at all.

I realize this is a question for law enforcement, but I'm curious whether anyone else has wondered about this.

Gil Chapin

One of our car's features is that it recognizes speed limit signs and automatically adjusts the car's speed. It automatically slows to 20 when it passes that sign and increases when it passes the speed limit sign after exiting the RB.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Jalane

One of our car's features is that it recognizes speed limit signs and automatically adjusts the car's speed. It automatically slows to 20 when it passes that sign and increases when it passes the speed limit sign after exiting the RB.

Now that’s one feature I *really* don’t like…. ever since the time I was driving on the highway at 60mph and it picked up the 20mph sign on the frontage road. That was not fun.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by MicRoDrafting

RESPECTFULLY
I disagree with slowing
down to 20 mph at the sign.

the MUTCD, FDOT and IMSA classify this Yellow Background w Black Lettering Diamond shaped type of SIGN as “Advisory”, aka: a Warning to Traffic Conditions the motorist is Approaching, and …

… the Fact that there is a diagram of a Roundabout above the [advised] speed limit provides the reason for this posted sign.

this is NOT an opinion:
Presently Employed as

Transportation Engineering Technician Class II
City of Ocala Engineer’s Office
w “IMSA Traffic and Signage” Certification

Yes, the yellow sign is "warning" that you are approaching a RB. The black on white rectangular speed limit sign is just that---an official and legal speed limit, which technically begins at the sign. And that is not "an opinion", that is the law. And I am not certified in "IMSA Traffic and Signage". Would you have felt better if they didn't put the two signs on the same pole but different ones?

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by CarlR33

Per Ai below. Having said that have you ever wondered why there is always that semi truck that overturns on a curve with a suggested yellow speed sign all around the curve?
“A yellow speed limit sign indicates an advisory speed, meaning it's a suggested safe speed for a specific condition, not a legally enforceable speed limit. These signs are typically used to warn drivers of hazards like curves, construction zones, or areas with reduced visibility. While not a legal requirement, exceeding the advisory speed and causing an accident could lead to liability for the driver.”

I usually take roundabouts at 20 mph, as I understand that to be the speed limit. I don’t recall seeing anyone take them faster. I stay strictly in the marked lane for where I want to go. Some people try to straighten out the curve by cutting into other lanes. That’s lazy, and it’s a bad idea. I would way that it would be unsafe to take those curves faster than 20 mph, assuming people stay in their lanes.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

I usually take roundabouts at 20 mph, as I understand that to be the speed limit. I don’t recall seeing anyone take them faster. I stay strictly in the marked lane for where I want to go. Some people try to straighten out the curve by cutting into other lanes. That’s lazy, and it’s a bad idea. I would way that it would be unsafe to take those curves faster than 20 mph, assuming people stay in their lanes.

I did see a dumped over dump truck years ago on Buena Vista going south near the entrance to Tall Trees. It took a dump.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Jalane

I think people stay in the right lane (instead of using the left lane when entering a RB and planning to exit at the 3rd exit) because people complain when a car crosses in front of them from them to exit at the 3rd exit.

Yes, If in right lane going to turn at first or second exit, nobody will be cutting them off, only when they try to go to 3rd exit it big problem IF traffic in circle.

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

If you drive the traffic circles at 10 mph then you are part of the problem not part of the solution. I try to get in and out of a roundabout as quickly as possible driving as close to 20 mph as possible. Also , all the turn signals being used improperly in the traffic circles is overwhelming. If you are in the proper lane for your exit there is no need for the use of blinkers. If you trust someone’s turn signal in a roundabout you’re rolling the dice!

Turn signals are required by law when making a turn. That is the most likely reason some people use them.
A good use is by Lane 1. When they need to exit a two lane circle, they must cross over Lane 2 to exit. A turn signal tells anyone in Lane 2 that they must slow down and let him exit the circle since Lane 1 has the right of way.
The above is for the two lane circles with both lanes having the ability to exit when "going straight".

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by annecobb

But more importantly, there are folks with cars that have added exhaust sound enhancers, exhaust sound roarers, exhaust sound speakers for the individual that wants to sound like they are at NASCAR. I don't understand why we need mufflers with all these accessories of noise. It is disenchanting that this goes unchallenged because I have noticed several cars just cruising with these accessories. Florida mufflers are suppose to be around 68 decibels but this exceeds this as well. And I would imagine no one is interested in enforcing this.

For the same reason the older generations use glass packs and cherry bombs.