[outlaw]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Interesting that a car is only stopped for a speeding ticket IF it's going five or more mph over the speed limit, and yet a golf cart?????

Almost daily, I am behind someone driving a golf cart that drives right through ALL stop signs without even pausing. DAILY!! I have even seen cars slam on their brakes and drivers shake their heads when they have to avoid golf carts speeding through stop signs.

Even though I get a bit irritated at those carts that pass me, I have yet to see an accident resulting from a golf cart moving too fast. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the accidents I see reported are usually resulting from negligent operation, such as hitting a curb or running into a car lane and being struck by a car.

If one can operate a car at highway speeds safely, surely a golf cart going a little over 20mph can be operated safely too. I'm not condoning speeding, but I think that many of us are more upset at being passed by a faster vehicle than worrying about a vehicle moving at a little over the 20mph speed limit. I am more concerned about those who blatantly run stop signs and exit tunnels onto the cart paths without stopping to see if there is ongoing traffic. This is just my two cents worth, and I am sure that there will be plenty of those that are in disagreement. And yes, I have also been passed by golf carts on public streets, not just the cart paths. That means that they have to move out of the multimodal lanes into regular traffic lanes to do so. That puts that operator into a potential hazardous situation.

"Have you ever noticed? Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac" — George Carlin

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Being raised in a policeman's home, (I still have trouble saying "cop") is probably worse than being a preachers kid.

And my grandfather was six four.

Nobody messed with me.

But I didn't have a smart mouth like I do now.

Being a former COP, I have no problem with the reference. As you know, COP stands for Constable On Patrol. I see nothing disrespectful in the term. That's just my two cents.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Average Guy

What intersections did you see golf carts not stopping? I have never seen this where I travel in The Villages.

I see it EVERY day. I find it hard to believe that you live here and have not observed it. Hard to name just one intersection. I doubt I have seen an intersection where the stop sign has NOT been violated. Tell you what, you give me an intersection North of Rt466 (I rarely travel south of 466 in the cart) and I will tell you whether or not I have witnessed stop sign violations. I doubt there is one that has been 100% conformed to.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Average Guy

That is an example of one cart. Fortunately, you avoided hitting the cart. Obviously, sometimes golf carts do not stop when they should. The post I was responding to stated "I was just in TV for 2 weeks and found myself scared to death of the golf carts. They don't stop at intersections."

Clearly, the vast majority of golf carts stop at intersections and it is a gross exaggeration to state that they do not.

I think you probably meant to say that "many" stop at intersections. I believe that pausing at Stop signs does NOT constitute conforming to the definition of stop. I have only lived here going on three years and have not noticed a "majority" conforming to the stop sign command to stop. I don't know what the state law dictates where you come from, but every state that I have lived in, defines the dictates of a Stop sign as coming to a complete stop and then progressing when safe to do so.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

The speed limit on those roads is 25 mph. If I'm going down any of those hills at 25, mph why should I be cited for speeding? I guess I could be cited for having an unregistered vehicle since my golf cart is capable of going over 20 mph, but I would argue that every golf cart in The Villages is illegal.


Like I said, the cart that I saw pulled over yesterday going northbound on Morse was in the middle of a downhill grade just before San Marino Drive. Even if that cart is set to not exceed 19 mph on level ground with no wind, it may have gotten up over 20 on the downhill. Remember, there is no speed limit for golf carts.

My main point is that these laws are so vague that they may be unconstitutional. The conditions under which a golf cart is capable of going 20 mph should be stipulated in the law. As far as I know, except in a few spots like the Morse bridge over Lake Sumter there is no speed limit for golf carts.

I agree

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

THERE ARE SOME of us who stop at all stop signs AND always use our turn signals.

We are usually first born, have never been behind on a bill and still save our money. AND were born and raised in Ohio.
Sometimes we do inch past the speed limit. No one is perfect.

Excellent! Like the old saying goes, let those without sin cast the first stone.

[outlaw]

If I'm on the street, I stop at stop signs, unless I'm on my bicycle or motorcycle. Then I do a lot of roll throughs. If I'm on the MMP, I mostly do roll throughs, but sometimes I stop if I have to look back or there is a car present. I stop at all stop signs if I see a cop car.

[MDLNB]

Please point me to someone that has received a "speeding" ticket while operating a golf cart. I find it difficult to believe that you can charge for it unless that cart is on a 10-15mph residential street and exceeding the posted speed limit. I am not saying that it doesn't happen, but I will bet you that the violations are being charged with operation of an unregistered motor vehicle if they are exceeding 25mph on a public road posted at 35mph. Kind of hard to charge them with speeding if the posted speed limit is more than what the cart is traveling. I have seen bikes traveling faster than that, and I doubt anyone has thought to stop them. Just saying.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by outlaw

If I'm on the street, I stop at stop signs, unless I'm on my bicycle or motorcycle. Then I do a lot of roll throughs. If I'm on the MMP, I mostly do roll throughs, but sometimes I stop if I have to look back or there is a car present. I stop at all stop signs if I see a cop car.

And the law dictates that you come to a complete stop at a stop sign. At yield signs, you are permitted to slow down and travel on IF safe.

[MDLNB]

I find it amazing, interesting, amusing, and alarming that many on here find it heinous that one exceed 20mph in a golf cart, and yet find it totally agreeable and normal to violate stop signs. Where I come from, a stop sign is NOT a suggestion.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

I find it amazing, interesting, amusing, and alarming that many on here find it heinous that one exceed 20mph in a golf cart, and yet find it totally agreeable and normal to violate stop signs. Where I come from, a stop sign is NOT a suggestion.

They're are lots that take it as suggestion. Especially at 4 way stops. They are NOT inline till they stop.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

And the law dictates that you come to a complete stop at a stop sign. At yield signs, you are permitted to slow down and travel on IF safe.

And the law dictates that you go no faster than 35 mph on BV, yet I see sheriffs vehicles routinely go a few mph over. No big deal. If there is a four way stop, and I'm in my car, I will stop and wait my turn.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by newguyintv

OH, you mean golf carts whose max speed limit on public streets is 20 mph. Golf cart going 21 mph is like a car going 40 in a 35 mph zone. Both should be ticketed.

REALLY??? Just not true at all. Cops don't typically ticket 40 and a 35 for many reasons, but one is the accuracy of the measurement devices (Radar/Laser, etc). Another is we have an unwritten agreement in this country that 5 MPH over the limit is "safe". But 1 mph over the limit for Golf carts? Really. The cops are after the guys who have Carts that race by you going 28 or 30, not 21.

I would really like to hear from someone who has actually GOTTEN a ticket, or knows the actual details of someone who has. I suspect the Golf cart tickets were for people going above 25, not 21.

[Packer Fan]

Originally Posted by GatorFan

At the VHA golf cart safety meeting, Lt. Wolf said they do not give tickets for speeding to a golf cart unless radar says 25 miles hour or higher. This takes into consideration downhill speed. If in doubt call Sheriff's department and ask.

8 pages to get to someone who had some actual detail! Thank you so much Gator Fan - that is what I expected and I am not surprised.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Packer Fan

REALLY??? Just not true at all. Cops don't typically ticket 40 and a 35 for many reasons, but one is the accuracy of the measurement devices (Radar/Laser, etc). Another is we have an unwritten agreement in this country that 5 MPH over the limit is "safe". But 1 mph over the limit for Golf carts? Really. The cops are after the guys who have Carts that race by you going 28 or 30, not 21.

I would really like to hear from someone who has actually GOTTEN a ticket, or knows the actual details of someone who has. I suspect the Golf cart tickets were for people going above 25, not 21.

I agree.