Time to post an opinion that may be unpopular, especially with our most prolific member, but......

Golf carts----can't see any reason to go over 20, even if you can. If you go 23 when able on a 4 mile trip, you will probably only average 10.5 mph as opposed to 10 mph with stops, turns, tunnels, traffic etc. You will arrive about 45 sec sooner. I do object to practically inviting the police to run a fundraiser for going 21 mph, we have far too much government intervention as it is. Better they spend their time finding the burglars and golf cart thieves. Otherwise maybe they should camp out on the fairway of a par 5 as well.

Cars---in TV, basically the same argument---not worth the time savings, and better to put the effort into avoiding those who seem to have forgotten how to drive (or never knew)
However, as far as interstates go, I disagree with those who want tickets for 1 mph over the limit. Anyone who never gets to 66 on I-95 is probably averaging 62-63. I apologize for the dust I will leave on your windshield. Half of those people are camping out in the furthest left lane---they may never get in an accident , but they CAUSE plenty---just watch what happens the next time traffic encounters them--a mad rush to pass on the right, weaving in and out, etc. traveling 8 mph over the limit on a 1200 mi trip saves over 2.5 hrs, and is perfectly safe as long as you have the appropriate driving skills. The speed limits appear to be somewhat arbitrary on I-95---55,60,65 and 70 probably based on traffic flow or accident history, but frequently no rhyme or reason. In the years since the national 55 limit was repealed, there have been far fewer highway fatalities. Perhaps the speed limit could be linked to your driving skill. For those who want drive at 40 mph on I-95, may I suggest US 301--you won't get a ticket in Jessup, Ga

I would think it would be just the opposite; likely voters are probably the ones who stay here around the year?

What intersections did you see golf carts not stopping? I have never seen this where I travel in The Villages.

That's good to know. My gas Yamaha has a governor set for 20 mph, but when I go down a long slight downhill run it will get to 22 mph. On a level surface it tops out at 19.4 to 20.1 or 20.2. I wondered what would happen if I got shot with a radar gun. I'm glad to see common sense prevails at the sheriff's office.

I agree. :bigbow:

I had to slam on my brakes leaving the Hillsborough exit because the golf car driver went through the stop sign He had no intention of slowing down or stopping.

Carts vs cars will always lose. Stupid is as stupid does.

I'm not real familiar with the roads in TV so I can't remember exactly where it happened. Do the golf carts have the right of way or the cars? I was afraid someone would rear end me if I kept stopping for golf carts. I hope I get acclimated to the golf carts once I'm living there. Just don't want anyone to get hurt.

That is an example of one cart. Fortunately, you avoided hitting the cart. Obviously, sometimes golf carts do not stop when they should. The post I was responding to stated "I was just in TV for 2 weeks and found myself scared to death of the golf carts. They don't stop at intersections."

Clearly, the vast majority of golf carts stop at intersections and it is a gross exaggeration to state that they do not.

You had 70 mph speed limits on the surface roads in your home town? Where do you come from? I've driven across many states in this country and in a few foreign countries and I've never seen a speed limit of 70 mph except on major highways.

What you said. She had to live on a major interstate.

Maybe it is Hillsborough or because I live there I'm on the road constantly. Stop is only a suggestion does apply. Cosmos and infinity is another example. It is more of a if I can't see anyone coming, I don't stop. Pretty much the same at the intersection of Druid and hillsborough. Guess we are all the young rowdy group (that's from an earlier post insulting the people in the Brownwood area) that runs stop signs and plays their stereos too loud.

That's pretty much standard operating procedure for most people everywhere I have ever lived. You slow down as you approach a stop sign. If you can see a quarter mile in every direction before you get to the intersection and nothing is coming, most people proceed safely without coming to a complete stop.

This is not a Druid St thing or a Hillsborough thing or a Brownwood thing. It's done pretty much every where in the world by 90% of drivers.

That's the way we did it in the flatlands of southern Ohio. Come up to a stop sign where you can usually see 5 miles either way and stand on it! The only danger was at night because deer don't stop for stop signs either!

Being raised in a policeman's home, (I still have trouble saying "cop") is probably worse than being a preachers kid.

And my grandfather was six four.

Nobody messed with me.

But I didn't have a smart mouth like I do now.

When it is a stop sign, I stop. When it is a yield sign, I yield. Guess I am a goodie two shoes. I thought I was a wild and crazy girl. This has been eye opening. I need to go to see my shrink.

Me too. I can see it in the "wilds" of southern Ohio like DonH57, or in the middle of Nevada, etc., but I sure don't see doing it around here. You may think you're seeing everything, but you may not be.

I sure wouldn't do that anywhere in TV or anywhere. I'm amazed by the ones I've witness not only run the stop sign but turn to the right and not even look to their left before hand. My only thought at that time is, How are they still alive?

The old rolling stop can sometimes lead to a ticket. Be safe out there.

OK, I cannot tell you the number of times over the last 18 months that I have seen LEFT turns from Hendry to Pinellas Place with no stop. I was almost broad sided by some idiot that did not look and ran the stop sign. I was on Pinellas going toward Pinellas Plaza, and idiot was on Hendry making a left, he missed hitting me by a few feet, but only because I CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP on Pinellas. this is one intersection I would love to be monitored, very few people stop.
Thank you for the rant......

My problem is with cart drivers who come out of side streets without stopping to go into the diamond lane. They may know what they intend to do, but, in my car, I don't know whether they are crossing the street or going in my direction. Just because the diamond lane is clear doesn't mean you can pull out without stopping. Some of them make such a wide turn that they enter the auto lane briefly which increases the angst for other drivers.

On the flip side, I never turn left out of my street if a cart is in the diamond lane such that I would create concern in their mind that I might cross into their lane in doing so. I always delay so they have gone by when I proceed.

Interesting that a car is only stopped for a speeding ticket IF it's going five or more mph over the speed limit, and yet a golf cart?????

Almost daily, I am behind someone driving a golf cart that drives right through ALL stop signs without even pausing. DAILY!! I have even seen cars slam on their brakes and drivers shake their heads when they have to avoid golf carts speeding through stop signs.

Even though I get a bit irritated at those carts that pass me, I have yet to see an accident resulting from a golf cart moving too fast. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the accidents I see reported are usually resulting from negligent operation, such as hitting a curb or running into a car lane and being struck by a car.

If one can operate a car at highway speeds safely, surely a golf cart going a little over 20mph can be operated safely too. I'm not condoning speeding, but I think that many of us are more upset at being passed by a faster vehicle than worrying about a vehicle moving at a little over the 20mph speed limit. I am more concerned about those who blatantly run stop signs and exit tunnels onto the cart paths without stopping to see if there is ongoing traffic. This is just my two cents worth, and I am sure that there will be plenty of those that are in disagreement. And yes, I have also been passed by golf carts on public streets, not just the cart paths. That means that they have to move out of the multimodal lanes into regular traffic lanes to do so. That puts that operator into a potential hazardous situation.

I see people speeding everywhere these days including on Morse. I drive on Camino Real every morning on my way to work and pickup trucks pass me doing @ 55 MPH. I have not seen one get pulled over yet!

My rule of thumb for speed limits on Morse & Buena Vista is, if there are cart paths on street, its 30mph, and if there are no cart paths on street, its 35mph.

No, you ARE RIGHT. Stop signs mean STOP, not pause, not speed through, just STOP. Regardless of whether there is traffic or not, the law says we stop for the STOP sign. If it was meant as a yield then it would be a yield sign instead of a STOP sign. When I was a COP, I rarely gave speeding tickets, but I would give a violation of a red light or stop sign every time I witnessed it.

"Have you ever noticed? Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac" — George Carlin

Being a former COP, I have no problem with the reference. As you know, COP stands for Constable On Patrol. I see nothing disrespectful in the term. That's just my two cents.

I see it EVERY day. I find it hard to believe that you live here and have not observed it. Hard to name just one intersection. I doubt I have seen an intersection where the stop sign has NOT been violated. Tell you what, you give me an intersection North of Rt466 (I rarely travel south of 466 in the cart) and I will tell you whether or not I have witnessed stop sign violations. I doubt there is one that has been 100% conformed to.

I think you probably meant to say that "many" stop at intersections. I believe that pausing at Stop signs does NOT constitute conforming to the definition of stop. I have only lived here going on three years and have not noticed a "majority" conforming to the stop sign command to stop. I don't know what the state law dictates where you come from, but every state that I have lived in, defines the dictates of a Stop sign as coming to a complete stop and then progressing when safe to do so.

I agree

Excellent! Like the old saying goes, let those without sin cast the first stone.

If I'm on the street, I stop at stop signs, unless I'm on my bicycle or motorcycle. Then I do a lot of roll throughs. If I'm on the MMP, I mostly do roll throughs, but sometimes I stop if I have to look back or there is a car present. I stop at all stop signs if I see a cop car.

Please point me to someone that has received a "speeding" ticket while operating a golf cart. I find it difficult to believe that you can charge for it unless that cart is on a 10-15mph residential street and exceeding the posted speed limit. I am not saying that it doesn't happen, but I will bet you that the violations are being charged with operation of an unregistered motor vehicle if they are exceeding 25mph on a public road posted at 35mph. Kind of hard to charge them with speeding if the posted speed limit is more than what the cart is traveling. I have seen bikes traveling faster than that, and I doubt anyone has thought to stop them. Just saying.

And the law dictates that you come to a complete stop at a stop sign. At yield signs, you are permitted to slow down and travel on IF safe.

I find it amazing, interesting, amusing, and alarming that many on here find it heinous that one exceed 20mph in a golf cart, and yet find it totally agreeable and normal to violate stop signs. Where I come from, a stop sign is NOT a suggestion.

They're are lots that take it as suggestion. Especially at 4 way stops. They are NOT inline till they stop.

And the law dictates that you go no faster than 35 mph on BV, yet I see sheriffs vehicles routinely go a few mph over. No big deal. If there is a four way stop, and I'm in my car, I will stop and wait my turn.

REALLY??? Just not true at all. Cops don't typically ticket 40 and a 35 for many reasons, but one is the accuracy of the measurement devices (Radar/Laser, etc). Another is we have an unwritten agreement in this country that 5 MPH over the limit is "safe". But 1 mph over the limit for Golf carts? Really. The cops are after the guys who have Carts that race by you going 28 or 30, not 21.

I would really like to hear from someone who has actually GOTTEN a ticket, or knows the actual details of someone who has. I suspect the Golf cart tickets were for people going above 25, not 21.

8 pages to get to someone who had some actual detail! Thank you so much Gator Fan - that is what I expected and I am not surprised.

I agree.